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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Lol.

But really, they may talk at the very end and it will be the last. Same goes to Kakashi. Naruto is going to have many dialogues exchange from the fight to the end. There's a chance that Sasuke will never speak to Team 7 ever again, but again, it's a chance. To me, Naruto still have the most advantages when it comes to when to interact with Sakura. He left too many open discussion, so expect more developments.

I dont get why she has to talk with Sasuke it will just bash her character more and will be obvious that she's unable to figure out things by her own, what Sasuke has to do more to tell her that he does not love her, he reject her confession, he tried to kill her what's missing for him to do?
She already knows he's not the same, if she cant figure it by her own i dont know what to think about Sakura anymore.


@Sojobo
Sasuke is unable to kill Naruto, even that Chidori didnt kill him, it was different of what he was trying to do with Sakura, it was obvious to the audience that Sasuke does not have any special feelings for Sakura.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 March 2013 - 05:00 PM.

[Sojobo]

Sasuke is unable to kill Naruto, even that Chidori didnt kill him, it was different of what he was trying to do with Sakura, it was obvious to the audience that Sasuke does not have any special feelings for Sakura.

No, it was no different at all. Sasuke targetted his heart, but by surprise, Naruto dogded it. Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto at that moment.
I don't agree with you. I agree that Sasuke isn't in love with Sakura, but I don't agree that he doesn't have any special feelings for her.

Saying that he doesn't is not knowing well the Uchiha character at all.
Team 7 is special to him. Even if he tries to deny it, his thoughts contradicts him.
Part 2 has a lot of hints.

Edited by Sojobo, 11 March 2013 - 05:10 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No, it was no different at all. Sasuke targetted his heart, but by surprise, Naruto dogded it. Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto at that moment.
I don't agree with you. I agree that Sasuke isn't in love with Sakura, but I don't agree that he doesn't have any special feelings for her.

Saying that he doesn't is not knowing well the Uchiha character at all.

Yeah right, right after Sasuke defeated Naruto he didnt killed him.
Sakura was going to die two times.

There's no proof that he sees her as special or particular one, the two parts that when her shows up, it's a whole, like part of his former friends with Naruto being on the middle all the time.
If he had feelings for her he would not try to kill her.

Naruto is the only one he has consideration, even Sasuke made a promise to him.

TL,DR
Naruto is special, Sasuke would kill Kakashi and Sakura but for Naruto i strongly believe it's a bluff.
Sasuke wants to destroy Naruto's beliefs, even without knowing for Sasuke, Naruto is someome who he can relate to, like Hashirama to Madara.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 March 2013 - 05:14 PM.

[Sojobo]

Yeah right, right after Sasuke defeated Naruto he didnt killed him.

This doesn't mean that he never had the intention to kill him.
You know that Naruto would never survive against a Chidori planted in his heart.

Sakura was going to die two times.

I don't deny that. Like Sasuke tried to kill Kakashi also with Suusanoo.

There's no proof that he sees her as special or particular one

There are a lot of proofs, in part 1 and part 2.
I'm a NS fan, but I can't close my eyes on that, it's fact.
I will show them if you want.

the two parts that when her shows up, it's a whole, like part of his former friends with Naruto being on the middle all the time.
If he had feelings for her he would not try to kill her.

He killed the one he loved the most, he tried to kill his best friend, and probably his new brother, he tried to kill the one who is like a second dad to him (Databook), he tried to kill the girl he cares for (I don't say love, he just cares about her like he cares about every team 7 member). He even tried to kill his new teammate (Karin), the one who did probably the most for him in his quest for revange, the one that is in love with him.

Sasuke isn't Naruto or other character who shows his feelings easily. He's like Squall of Final Fantasy who try to convince himself he doesn't care about Linoa, or like Vegeta who tries to show Trunks he doesn't gives a kitten for Bulma after Gero's attack. If Trunks wasn't there, Bulma would have die from that attack, together with Chibi Trunks and Yajirobe. You have other exemples like in Princess Lover, Heartmann who tried to kill the woman who loves him and tried to acting like he didn't care about what could happen to her.
Those characters are all cold towards the they love, but in reality, they hide their real feelings.
Of course, I'm not like SS fans who are thinking that he loves Sakura, to me , he only sees her as a big sister (yup, she a bit older than him and Naruto).
That's what Databook says to, Sakura likes to play the role of the big sister with Naruto and Sasuke. I remember at Chuunin exam, she holded their hands, walking with them so they will not fight again. Databook also says that Sakura is really important to Sasuke.

Really, I can't agree with you about that.

Naruto is the only one he has consideration, even Sasuke made a promise to him.

Naruto is a more special person too him, that is fact. He's his biggest rival, best friend, and his second brother.
But Naruto is also part of his new family, and right now, his new family is team 7.
Even Sakon of the sound understood that :

Edited by Sojobo, 11 March 2013 - 05:36 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

This doesn't mean that he never had the intention to kill him.
You know that Naruto would never survive against a Chidori planted in his heart.

I don't deny that. Like Sasuke tried to kill Kakashi also with Suusanoo.

There are a lot of proofs, in part 1 and part 2.
I'm a NS fan, but I can't close my eyes on that, it's fact.
I will show them if you want.

There's not, you can post it all along i can counter them easily with the murder attempt.
Even despite wanting to kill Naruto he accept a deal with him, he listened to Naruto, he didnt even listen to Sakura, and he was going to kill despite she kill or not Karin, there's no special feelings for her there.
If he had feelings for her he would not be able to kill her like he did with Naruto after Sasuke defeated him and even make an excuse on the reunition part where he said he didnt killed Naruto because of caprice.

He killed the one he loved the most, he tried to kill his best friend, and probably his new brother, he tried to kill the one who is like a second dad to him (Databook), he tried to kill the girl he cares for (I don't say love, he just cares about her like he cares about every team 7 member). He even tried to kill his new teammate (Karin), the one who did probably the most for him in his quest for revange, the one that is in love with him.

Sasuke isn't Naruto or other character who shows his feelings easily. He's like Squall of Final Fantasy who try to convince himself he doesn't care about Linoa, or like Vegeta who tries to show Trunks he doesn't gives a kitten for Bulma after Gero's attack. If Trunks wasn't there, Bulma would have die from that attack, together with Chibi Trunks and Yajirobe. You have other exemples like in Princess Lover, Heartmann who tried to kill the woman who loves him and tried to acting like he didn't care about what could happen to her.
Those characters are all cold towards the they love, but in reality, they hide their real feelings.
Of course, I'm not like SS fans who are thinking that he loves Sakura, to me , he only sees her as a big sister (yup, she a bit older than him and Naruto).
That's what Databook says to, Sakura likes to play the role of the big sister with Naruto and Sasuke. I remember at Chuunin exam, she holded their hands, walking with them so they will not fight again. Databook also says that Sakura is really important to Sasuke.

Really, I can't agree with you about that.

Naruto is a more special person too him, that is fact. He's his biggest rival, best friend, and his second brother.
But Naruto is also part of his new family, and right now, his new family is team 7.
Even Sakon of the sound understood that :

Databook arent proof of anything, they only state what's on the manga, but conver until some point i'm pretty sure if he got an databook 4 it would change that.
I would agree if Sasuke didnt tried to kill Sakura at cold blood.
Even Karin got the message and this made her give up on Sasuke i think.

THis is not a proof show me a panel where he thinks about sakura alone on part 2, that suggest an special feelings for her even if it means friendship there's nothing, you're just posting what i said earlier.
For Sasuke on nowadays she's currently on the same level as Ino and all the others, even Naruto says she was a member of team 7 and he replies with i was a former member.
Naruto thought he wanst capable of killing her like Sasuke did with him.


A lot of things happened after Databook 3 launched it's outdated.

yeah sure i'm going to post a page on chapter 118 when a lot of things happened, Sasuke broke his bonds with Sakura/kakshi and a lots of other people, minus Naruto.
3 years later, does not give a damn about Sakura and Kakashi, only Naruto.
Team up with other 3 people.
Sasuke's team 7 is Sasuke, Karin, Juugo and Suigetsu.
And his most important bonds are with Naruto, Itachi.
Sakura - former friend, Kakashi - former teacher, Ino - former friend and so on.

I wish i could agree but the muder attempts sealed off the deal.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 March 2013 - 05:56 PM.

[catsi563]

The only real connection as of this time that Sasuke has for Sakura is her connection to team 7

this was shown best at their reunion early in part 2 where he basicaly mentioned her name but past that put her out of her head.

Every other interaction has been negative or in conflict. And his thought process is also clear as he only EVER sees her in the context of team 7 never is she shown in his thoughts seperate from team 7.

Only Karin or Naruto has a place in his thoughts seperate from team interactions both proven through manga chapters.

for a personal opionion I do believe Sasuke and Sakura will talk again but it will most likely be a short interaction with Sasuke either confirming the bench scene, or Sakura standing over Naruto protectively and letting Sasuke know in no uncertain terms that if he lays another finger on Naruto she will Kill Him.

Edited by catsi563, 11 March 2013 - 06:01 PM.

[Sojobo]

There's not, you can post it all along i can counter them easily with the murder attempt.

It can't be helped...

If he had feelings for her he would not be able to kill her like he did with Naruto after Sasuke defeated him and even make an excuse on the reunition part where he said he didnt killed Naruto because of caprice.

So if I'm thinking like you, then :

Chiyo didn't care for Sasori.
Kakashi didn't care for Rin.
Itachi didn't care for his parents.

And so on...
Come on, this isn't a good argument in my point of view, but anyway, it's seems we'll never agree.

Databook arent proof of anything

This is your point of view.
It's wrote by Kishi himself.

THis is not a proof show me a panel where he thinks about sakura alone on part 2, that suggest an special feelings for her even if it means friendship there's nothing, you're just posting what i said earlier.

Seeing Sakura accompagned with Naruto and Kakashi shows already a lot for me.


Sasuke : Those dear to me...
It explains everything.

Edited by Sojobo, 11 March 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The only real connection as of this time that Sasuke has for Sakura is her connection to team 7

this was shown best at their reunion early in part 2 where he basicaly mentioned her name but past that put her out of her head.

Every other interaction has been negative or in conflict. And his thought process is also clear as he only EVER sees her in the context of team 7 never is she shown in his thoughts seperate from team 7.

Only Karin or Naruto has a place in his thoughts seperate from team interactions both proven through manga chapters.

Yep

The part before he fall into darkness

http://i6.mangapanda...naruto-8375.jpg

Then
http://i7.mangapanda...uto-1219235.jpg

@Sojobo
I'll just agree to disagree.
You're bringing part 1 all the time when i'm talking about part 2.
I'm not denying that for him on part 1 Sakura was on the same level of Naruto and Kakashi they were like a "family" but nowadays it's not like that.
Even the picture above states it.
And also the murder attempts, i'm talking about special bonds/feelings and you keep talking about friendship if he had a special bond with Sakura he would not be capable of killing her, when he could not do the same with Naruto.
The same goes for Karin when he was going to kill her and he saw her only as member of the team when he realized that she was an uzumaki it opened a door for him to develop a special bond with her.
I wont be surprised if he tries to apologize to Karin.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 March 2013 - 06:12 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

Well said, my friend. Well said.

Hehe, won't it be funny that Kishi took a break to go there? After all, it is next week. Hmmmmmmmm...


That's right! I so want to go there! Dammit, someone who lives in Japan, if you can go there and report to us, you'll be rep till the end of time!

Hold the phone.....your right...this week kishi takes a break from the manga....and ironically...the...event....oooooooh could it be???

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Hold the phone.....your right...this week kishi takes a break from the manga....and ironically...the...event....oooooooh could it be???

Playing Storm 3 he already told that on the interview

[merryGOflava]

I kinda agree with Sojobo.....if sasuke doesn't care about sakura at all...why did he think about her, naruto and kakashi while trying to save karin?

why not just naruto? http://c.mhcdn.net/s...g?v=11219987817

he cared about karin enough to save her from bee......even though it could of gotten him into more trouble.
then later he turned around and tried to kill her.

I'm telling ya...the Uchiha curse is messing with sasuke's mind.

I think team 7 was Sasuke's new family...it helped him move on from his family's demise.
then Team Taka (or whatever you call them) was his third family...that helped him pursue his goals no matter what.

both special.

Edited by merryGOflava, 11 March 2013 - 06:35 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Without going too much into it, I think it's safe to say that Sakura is important to Sasuke but within Team 7, not as individual. There has not one moment that he thought of her as a person, but rather as a member of a group in part 2. The only one who got the attention is no doubt Naruto. There are hints from him, including the scene where he sees the name "Naruto's bridge" makes him think of him. Team Taka is the same for Sasuke, though for now, Karin is a bit questionable. Maybe it was convenience that Sasuke gained new power to save her, but we'll see.

For the record, the real translation to the databook 2 was actually more of like "Sakura tried, but failed" rather than "She's the only to filled his darkness." We learned this a while back in NF. I believe someone in here also read that. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say in a nutshell.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 March 2013 - 06:44 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Without going too much into it, I think it's safe to say that Sakura is important to Sasuke but within Team 7, not as individual. There has not one moment that he thought of her as a person, but rather as a member of a group. The only one who got the attention is no doubt Naruto. There are hints from him, including the scene where he sees the name "Naruto's bridge" makes him think of him. Team Taka is the same for Sasuke, though for now, Karin is a bit questionable. Maybe it was convenience that Sasuke gained new power to save her, but we'll see.

For the record, the real translation to the databook 2 was actually more of like "Sakura tried, but failed" rather than "She's the only to filled his darkness." We learned this a while back in NF. I believe someone in here also read that. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say in a nutshell.

http://25.media.tumb...8v4go1_1280.jpg

XD idk......

[TouKen4Life3g]

http://25.media.tumb...8v4go1_1280.jpg

XD idk......

Crap, left out part 2 in my post. Part 2. Part 1 yes, but you know, why not show your final gratitude before never addressing again until a big maybe in the end. Either way, love part of Sasuke is never shown ever.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 March 2013 - 06:45 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Crap, left out part 2 in my post. Part 2. Part 1 yes, but you know, why not show your final gratitude before never addressing again until a big maybe in the end. Either way, love part of Sasuke is never shown ever.

of course he doesn't love sakura XD I just wanted to show he DID care for her as an individual not just a team member :3

though as part 2 went on...I think it got smaller and smaller, till now he only cares about kicking naruto's butt XD

[TouKen4Life3g]

of course he doesn't love sakura XD I just wanted to show he DID care for her as an individual not just a team member :3

though as part 2 went on...I think it got smaller and smaller, till now he only cares about kicking naruto's butt XD

Of course he cares, but she is shoved into the Team 7 section, rather than sticking out like someone who is beyond anyone else. Maybe it would have helped if he saved Karin with a mind of Sakura. Sadly, nope. Just keeps getting much worse.

[Sojobo]

For the record, the real translation to the databook 2 was actually more of like "Sakura tried, but failed" rather than "She's the only to filled his darkness." We learned this a while back in NF. I believe someone in here also read that. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say in a nutshell.

That's interesting what you just said there. Can you give me a link and proof of that please, want to use it for a friend who believes in this false translation.

There has not one moment that he thought of her as a person, but rather as a member of a group in part 2.

But being a member of team 7 means family to him.
The bonds they share each other are very strong. Seeiyng Kakashi as a father, Naruto as a brother. This is not just seeing someone as a member of a shinobi team, it is more.
It's like Jiraiya's/Naruto's bond, it's more than a master/student bond. I don't think every shinobi has bonds like this with their teammates and masters.
Look at Sasuke/Orochimaru for exemple, or even Madara/Obito.

Edited by Sojobo, 11 March 2013 - 07:09 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Of course he cares, but she is shoved into the Team 7 section, rather than sticking out like someone who is beyond anyone else. Maybe it would have helped if he saved Karin with a mind of Sakura. Sadly, nope. Just keeps getting much worse.

This is what i tried to say.

Naruto is not just team 7 for him, he's a rival an even a second brother.
Sakura is nothing for him, like i said his bond with her is not strong and even on the flashbacks you pointed out it's her on part 1, always, everytime he remind of something regarded to team 7 is always his memory of part 1 different when eh think of Naruto, when Naruto's flashbacks come he thinks of him as he's now like this

http://i23.mangapand...uto-3338715.jpg

Even when Orochimary says that everyone is fighting on the battlefield he thinks of Naruto.
I said he do not think of Sakura individually, and it's already enough proof.

Agreed.

That's interesting what you just said there. Can you give me a link and proof of that please, want to use it for a friend who believes in this false translation.

But being a member of team 7 means family to him.
The bonds they share each other are very strong. Seeiyng Kakashi as a father, Naruto as a brother. This is not just seeing someone as a member of a shinobi team, it is more.
It's like Jiraiya's/Naruto's bond, it's more than a master/student bond. I don't think every shinobi has bonds like this with their teammates and masters.
Look at Sasuke/Orochimaru for exemple, or even Madara/Obito.

What? the most close to it was Orochimaru/Sandaime's bond and still is not the same.

You cant even qualify Sakura on this just show how you're insecure to define her role on his heart, the last thing he thought about family was the K11.
http://i7.mangapanda...uto-1219235.jpg

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 March 2013 - 07:20 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's interesting what you just said there. Can you give me a link and proof of that please, want to use it for a friend who believes in this false translation.

I will. I already requested it, and now, I'm playing the waiting game.

This is what i tried to say.

Naruto is not just team 7 for him, he's a rival an even a second brother.
Sakura is nothing for him, like i said his bond with her is not strong and even on the flashbacks you pointed out it's her on part 1, always, everytime he remind of something regarded to team 7 is always his memory of part 1 different when eh think of Naruto, when Naruto's flashbacks come he thinks of him as he's now like this

http://i23.mangapand...uto-3338715.jpg

Even when Orochimary says that everyone is fighting on the battlefield he thinks of Naruto.
I said he do not think of Sakura individually, and it's already enough proof.

Agreed.

Yeah.

I know she's important to him, but it's not like she's sticking out to be more than a good friend. Naruto is shown to be his destined rival, great best friend, and a second brother. That's why Naruto sticks out like that. Team Taka is the same as Team 7. Does he mean he sees them as brother/sister? Not so sure. Just good friends within a group.

[merryGOflava]

Of course he cares, but she is shoved into the Team 7 section, rather than sticking out like someone who is beyond anyone else. Maybe it would have helped if he saved Karin with a mind of Sakura. Sadly, nope. Just keeps getting much worse.

your making it seem like thats a bad thing......team 7 is sasuke's family, he has no one else. (until team taka)

sakura isn't just a team member he is part of his new family.

yes it shows he cares about naruto more, but only because naruto is his rival too. (and they share a similar past, which makes them understand the others pain)

and unlike sakura...naruto can actually get sasuke to listen to him because he has the power to MAKE him listen.

sakura is the sister
kakashi the dad
naruto the brother.