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[Nar123]

so you are saying female on male violence is funny huh?
 
Besides Sasuke was trying to kill everyone he once cared about. They didn't have a relationship at that point. Abuse implies he was taking advantage of a relationship between the two, but no such thing existed at that point. Sasuke was trying to kill everyone who he used to care about. You make it sound like he was coming home to his girlfriend and beating her because he was drunk. Not to mention Sakura went out there to kill him in the first place.

The tsundere is a common trope in anime, and its really exagerated in the anime, in the manga she doesn't beat him very much

Now sasuke on the other hand, tried to kill sakura (or let her die) 5 times. Now it wouldnt be so bad if in the end sakura standed up for herself at least...she didn't even do this

She just accepted his half baked apologize because bananas

And the worst we have kishimoto saying if she let go of the feelings she had for him she would be fickle hahaha
Well wasn't he trying to make Sakura into a realistic woman? This goes against it.

[ramenanmitsu]

ramen, i cannot still see the link... But I know that rumours... I heard a few years ago that rumor but honestly I have n't taken it much in account. On 2ch there were many rumors of how Kishimoto and his wife met. One of those was that Kishimoto met her wife during a karaoke.
Of course if his wife was really a fan of his, the story would look like also to Naruto and Hinata because she is a fan of Naruto after all.
 
But I am not convinced about. Oda said that Kishimoto's wife looks a lot like Sakura (I assume she was referring to her beahavior, also because tell me if there's a jap woman with pink hairs and green eyes in you country... LOL), the same Kishimoto said that Kushina is a little based on his wife because she is scare when gets angry (and certainly she doesn't seem the identikit of Hinata :/)
Kishimoto, in vol 53, wrote that he asked to his wife for a help how to write a story of love and a mother. It still doesn't seem the case of Hinata imho.

I cannot post the link it seems.

Yeah, the more I think about it, that link isn't something I could 100% rely on. And all other things hint to Sakura looking like his wife as you say.

[TouKen4Life3g]

ramen, i cannot still see the link... But I know that rumours... I heard a few years ago that rumor but honestly I have n't taken it much in account. On 2ch there were many rumors of how Kishimoto and his wife met. One of those was that Kishimoto met her wife during a karaoke.

Of course if his wife was really a fan of his, the story would look like also to Naruto and Hinata because she is a fan of Naruto after all.

 

But I am not convinced about. Oda said that Kishimoto's wife looks a lot like Sakura (I assume she was referring to her beahavior, also because tell me if there's a jap woman with pink hairs and green eyes in you country... LOL), the same Kishimoto said that Kushina is a little based on his wife because she is scare when gets angry (and certainly she doesn't seem the identikit of Hinata :/)

Kishimoto, in vol 53, wrote that he asked to his wife for a help how to write a story of love and a mother. It still doesn't seem the case of Hinata imho.

Don't forget he asked his assistant on doing Sakura's confession. Wow, he do suck. He's like that "villain" from Bakuman.

[Nar123]

Don't forget he asked his assistant on doing Sakura's confession. Wow, he do suck. He's like that "villain" from Bakuman.

He asked his assistant? How so? Never heard of this... What happened?

[TouKen4Life3g]

He asked his assistant? How so? Never heard of this... What happened?

I forgot which interview, but you can ask others. This is true.

[Aizen-Sama]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

News flash: Sakura punching Naruto has always been comic relief. You know..an exaggerated anime gag? She usually does it because he's being perverted anyway.
Sasuke attacking Sakura and saying cruel things to her is always taken seriously.
You've ever seen Sakura try to kill Naruto or make him cry or knock him out with a sadistic unnecessary genjutsu etc? SS IS abusive--emotionally at the very least.
If you're looking for abuse on men..well Sasuke sure loves to beat the kitten out of Naruto.

[trang95]

so you are saying female on male violence is funny huh?
 

For Christ's sake, of course it's supposed to be funny. How many other female characters hit the main character?! Nami, Kagome, Akane, etc. etc Do we condemn them for it? No. But Sakura of course is not supposed to touch Naruto.
Oh, and btw: Always suspected that you are a freaking troll, but your typical NaruHina and SasuSaku argument pretty much tells that you are one.

Edited by trang95, 22 November 2014 - 05:07 PM.

[Dario]

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

kitten off. 

 

edit: can we please ban this idiot? He's obviously a troll riling up people.

Edited by Dario, 22 November 2014 - 02:55 PM.

[narusaku256]

People these days

[NS4Life]

so you are saying female on male violence is funny huh?
 
Besides Sasuke was trying to kill everyone he once cared about. They didn't have a relationship at that point. Abuse implies he was taking advantage of a relationship between the two, but no such thing existed at that point. Sasuke was trying to kill everyone who he used to care about. You make it sound like he was coming home to his girlfriend and beating her because he was drunk. Not to mention Sakura went out there to kill him in the first place.

Wow, nh and SS fan.

Sakura only tried to hurt sasuke once. She stopped. He could've knocked her away. He decided to kill her. How about the jutsu he used on her at the end?

Sakura is tsunade character. They do that all the time. Haven't you watch anime and read manga?

[Tokura Misaki]

So NarHin was planned from the start? And Sakura is a horrible woman if she moved on from Sasuke to Naruto. 

 

Lol Kishi. 

[Aizen-Sama]

So NarHin was planned from the start? And Sakura is a horrible woman if she moved on from Sasuke to Naruto. 
 
Lol Kishi. 

Nah it wasn't. Kikitten himself said he was going to go with Sakura until he changed his mind.
Btw if NS is "abuse" (lol) then NH can be considered "neglect". ;)

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I may be one of the few people who is not bothered by Sakura's confession. I got what she was intending from the get go. It was obvious to me from before that, that she had feelings for him, and although it was clumsy I never once thought she was lying in what she said. 

She was torn between two people, and she was dishonest about being "over" Sasuke but she didn't lie about what she said to Naruto. Now of course that's put into question given the ending, but since I've decided to ignore that to begin with I'll just take Kishi's prior words as her being an "honest girl" at that moment as all the proof that I need if I ever doubt the integrity of it. 

In the same manner that I ignore George Lucas' constant retconning, omissions and additions, I'll be ignoring Trollmoto's. The man Can't remember what he himself wrote for kitten, everything he says that is not inline with what he actually wrote is going to be thrown out the window from now on. 

This whole "I was going to go with Narusaku, but..."  kitten makes me giggle now that I've had time to take it in over night. Just think for a moment, Sakura was NOT lying when she said she had feelings for Naruto, and he called her liar and then failed to confess--So as far as we know the whole reason they didn't get together in the end was because Naruto really did just give up and Sakura had to settle for Sasuke  

Its like a kittening soap opera.  

This kitten needs a fic. 

[trang95]

I may be one of the few people who is not bothered by Sakura's confession. I got what she was intending from the get go. It was obvious to me from before that, that she had feelings for him, and although it was clumsy I never once thought she was lying in what she said. 

She was torn between two people, and she was dishonest about being "over" Sasuke but she didn't lie about what she said to Naruto. Now of course that's put into question given the ending, but since I've decided to ignore that to begin with I'll just take Kishi's prior words as her being an "honest girl" at that moment as all the proof that I need if I ever doubt the integrity of it. 

In the same manner that I ignore George Lucas' constant retconning, omissions and additions, I'll be ignoring Trollmoto's. The man Can't remember what he himself wrote for kitten, everything he says that is not inline with what he actually wrote is going to be thrown out the window from now on. 

This whole "I was going to go with Narusaku, but..."  kitten makes me giggle now that I've had time to take it in over night. Just think for a moment, Sakura was NOT lying when she said she had feelings for Naruto, and he called her liar and then failed to confess--So as far as we know the whole reason they didn't get together in the end was because Naruto really did just give up and Sakura had to settle for Sasuke  

Its like a kittening soap opera.  

This kitten needs a fic. 

I agree. There must have been some truth in Sakura's confession.

Edited by trang95, 22 November 2014 - 06:49 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I agree. There must have been some truth in Sakura's confession.

If we believe that Yamato was saying "Sakura, you really...(love/Like) Naruto." Then we have to believe she was being honest about that to Naruto at that time, don't we? and that's not even delving all the other hints we have of her changing feelings.  Its really a logical progression. 

I don't see why people have to agonize over what she said at that time when the answer was already given to us. 
 

Can we stop with the abuse kitten. Sakura routinely hits Naruto for "stepping out of line". Would you say anything if their genders were reversed? To be honest you guys are just coming off as a bunch of hypocrites. Or do you truly think it's impossible for woman to abuse men?

Of course women can abuse men, but Sakura hitting Naruto was never abuse and you can NEVER sucessfully spin it as so unless you are prepared to call  Ino abusive, Tsunade abusive, Kushina abusive,Karin towards everyone whose not Sasuke or orochimaru, Shikamaru's mom Yoshino--kitten more than half the women in the series  hit people for comedic purposes.  Lets see, outside of the Naruto franchise; Keiko Yukimura, Botan, Asuka Langley, Misty, Hell, here's the whole damn trope page of ANIME/MANGA Tsundere's, have a look. http://tvtropes.org/.../Tsundere/Anime

What ever you are trying to argue, STOP--it only hurts you in the end.

Anyone who uses the old "Sakura is abusive." Talking point has already lost. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 22 November 2014 - 07:10 PM.

[Gaara's hair]

Haha, funny.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

What your hair?  

[Gaara's hair]

What your hair?

OOOOH, my hair?! How dare you?! 

 

No I was speaking of this thing about Sakura abusing quitters 

[Tsuki Hoshino]

OOOOH, my hair?! How dare you?! 

 

No I was speaking of this thing about Sakura abusing quitters 

 

Ahh, I see.

You know I didn't mean that thing about the hair, it is after all the best thing about the ending

Like, literally, every time someone starts to say "Sakura is abusive." I sit there and smack myself in the face in shear, stunned awe at the stupidity and ignorance of such a statement. Not only have they insulted, degraded and made a mockery of ACTUAL abuse, but they have relegated a kitten ton of other characters into the catagory of "Abusive victims."

Because clearly, petite, delicate normal human Keiko, can abuse God like half demon Yusuke and Sakura is clearly a legit threat to Godlike Naruto  

They get hit because they ALLOW themselves to be hit, and they over react to it in the same manner for laughs. In an actual fight, who the hell actually thinks Keiko could take Yusuke? Who actually thinks Sakura could take Naruto? 

The answer is they CAN'T unless those guys ALLOW them to do so. 

[Gaara's hair]

 

Ahh, I see.

You know I didn't mean that thing about the hair, it is after all the best thing about the ending

Like, literally, every time someone starts to say "Sakura is abusive." I sit there and smack myself in the face in shear, stunned awe at the stupidity and ignorance of such a statement. Not only have they insulted, degraded and made a mockery of ACTUAL abuse, but they have relegated a kitten ton of other characters into the catagory of "Abusive victims."

Because clearly, petite, delicate normal human Keiko, can abuse God like half demon Yusuke and Sakura is clearly a legit threat to Godlike Naruto  

They get hit because they ALLOW themselves to be hit, and they over react to it in the same manner for laughs. In an actual fight, who the hell actually thinks Keiko could take Yusuke? Who actually thinks Sakura could take Naruto? 

The answer is they CAN'T unless those guys ALLOW them to do so. 

Quite.