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[六道仙人]

Yeah, Sasuke's pretty popular over there.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Gotta love bad dudes. Yes, I'm saying bad as "good". You know, the infamous power glove. "It's so bad."

[Dkey]

Let's clarify a bit here about the JF

-On the Naruto's stage were present, as guests, Kishimoto Masashi and the author of "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Kenji Taira. And Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi's voice actors, of course.

-They asked to voice actors to draw a war scene that have impressed them the most. For some twist of fate, Sugiyama and Nakamura (respectively, the Sasuke and Sakura's VA) drew the scene of Sasuke where he said "I want to become Hokage". Therefore, Naruto and Kakashi VAs teased them (Kakashi's VA: "Isn't Sasuke and Sakura getting awell together?" Naruto's VA "Sure!") in front of the audience and they blushed a little. I would venture to say that've flirted despite Miss Nakamura is married LOL.

-The VAs have then stage some war scenes. Sasuke and Sakura staged the scene of Sasuke's arrival on the battlefield, the one where there's
Sakura: Sasuke-kun?!
Sasuke: Sakura, uh...?

Then you have other scenes but they haven't provided any other details. A tweet mentioned that there has been some cute NS, NaruSasu and NaruKaka situations.

-Kishimoto said that he wouldn't be certain that next year there will be a Naruto stafe at JF. However the thing about "Naruto could end within a year" was wrong.

-Kishimoto said that he exaggerated to make Madara too powerful. And since Naruto's the main character, he needs to carry out the plot and will have to find out a way to defeat him, a way that at the moment he doesn't still know how. He will have to talk with his editor about that.

-They've also asked him if the statement from Sasuke about the desire to become Hokage was something that he has planned since a long time.
Kishimoto-sensei said yes but he didn't know how to take it out yet. And he also knows that a such thing would have surprised the readers. Furthermore, he will explain further the reasons behind that surprising statement, by going to explore Sasuke's mind.

 

well I got my hopes up because I didn't believe that most things will be adressed in less than an year considering the dragging on with Madara. Well Kishi expressed regret that he buffed Madara to much but it seems he wants to have Naruto defeat him so probably no other character will help him out. (except of course for Sasuke). And I see that Sasuke will be featured some more. I know some members of this forum will be thrilled to see that Sasuke will be in the focus in the future.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I see it as Naruto's final boss with help. Sasuke vs. him will be pure 1-on-1. All of his recent fights need help because of the whole situation like Bijuus being used for Juubi, Naruto's stamina lowering each fights, etc. That said if Naruto does end Madara (fight, not life), I wonder if Sasuke would react in a negative way because that's like Gaara's fight all over again, didn't do anything but watch the stronger one win.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yeah, Sasuke's pretty popular over there.

Everyone knows that, as for the reason Sasuke was the focus here is mostly because he's the final villain and what he will do he will decide what the story is going to.

 

Now i'm only confused about why Kishi is going to explore Sasuke's mind when he wants to kill Naruto, does he will change it?

Or he will keep and put another stuff?

[咲耶姫]

Everyone knows that, as for the reason Sasuke was the focus here is mostly because he's the final villain and what he will do he will decide what the story is going to.

 

Now i'm only confused about why Kishi is going to explore Sasuke's mind when he wants to kill Naruto, does he will change it?

Or he will keep and put another stuff?

I understood it as Kishi will explore Sasuke's mind to explain how he took the decision to become Hokage. 

[Atheck]

 

well I got my hopes up because I didn't believe that most things will be adressed in less than an year considering the dragging on with Madara. Well Kishi expressed regret that he buffed Madara to much but it seems he wants to have Naruto defeat him so probably no other character will help him out. (except of course for Sasuke). And I see that Sasuke will be featured some more. I know some members of this forum will be thrilled to see that Sasuke will be in the focus in the future.

 

Of course. From the characters currently involved in the fight and Kishi's subtle hints from interviews, you can see that the bijuu and their role in the shinobi world is the plot point of the volume. Naruto's status as jinchuuriki will likely come to a head as the mettle of his belief to consider the bijuu as beings who deserve equal respect and recognition as humans is reevaluated. Also, since Sasuke's ambitions involve the opposite belief system of perceiving the bijuu as antiquated tools of destruction that need to be destroyed, he will likely have a role to play as well like you said. Sakura? Probably not, despite the fact that she has staked a claim in the subplot of the jinchuuriki and their position in society back during the Kazekage Rescue arc when she expressed criticism of the ill treatment suffered by those with a bijuu sealed inside of them. You could even say that her resentment of the system that coerces people to lose their humanity (Sasori being the most notable example) would also play into the moral conflict with the bijuu. But where is she right now? With the Rookies being treated like she's only of equal importance to the likes of Tenten or Shino. 

 

It just pisses me off how no one at the meeting decided to express any concern or interest in the main heroine's lack of participation in the plot as of now. I understand that it's an expectation for Sakura to be neglected due to Kishi's ineptitude at handling female characters, but she's not even receiving the same amount of panel time as Sai has recently. Sai! And it's almost like no one there, including Nakamura, seems to give a damn about that. 

[Dkey]

 

Of course. From the characters currently involved in the fight and Kishi's subtle hints from interviews, you can see that the bijuu and their role in the shinobi world is the plot point of the volume. Naruto's status as jinchuuriki will likely come to a head as the mettle of his belief to consider the bijuu as beings who deserve equal respect and recognition as humans is reevaluated. Also, since Sasuke's ambitions involve the opposite belief system of perceiving the bijuu as antiquated tools of destruction that need to be destroyed, he will likely have a role to play as well like you said. Sakura? Probably not, despite the fact that she has staked a claim in the subplot of the jinchuuriki and their position in society back during the Kazekage Rescue arc when she expressed criticism of the ill treatment suffered by those with a bijuu sealed inside of them. You could even say that her resentment of the system that coerces people to lose their humanity (Sasori being the most notable example) would also play into the moral conflict with the bijuu. But where is she right now? With the Rookies being treated like she's only of equal importance to the likes of Tenten or Shino. 

 

It just pisses me off how no one at the meeting decided to express any concern or interest in the main heroine's lack of participation in the plot as of now. I understand that it's an expectation for Sakura to be neglected due to Kishi's ineptitude at handling female characters, but she's not even receiving the same amount of panel time as Sai has recently. Sai! And it's almost like no one there, including Nakamura, seems to give a damn about that. 

 

I kinda forgot about Sasuke's opinion about the Bijuus. I think Kishi will still play a let's not reveal what Sasuke's immediate plan is.

I agree thou he has a place in the Madara fight. Either Naruto will fight with Sasuke in relation to what the Uchiha tablet talked about. Right now it seems that sage mode ( even if technically Hashirama's sage mode is linked to mokuton) belongs to the senju while the sharingan and rinnegan belongs to the Uchiha.

So if Madara is to be equaled Sasuke and Naruto would have to team up. And as for Sakura. Where is she?

[Atheck]

 

I kinda forgot about Sasuke's opinion about the Bijuus. I think Kishi will still play a let's not reveal what Sasuke's immediate plan is.

I agree thou he has a place in the Madara fight. Either Naruto will fight with Sasuke in relation to what the Uchiha tablet talked about. Right now it seems that sage mode ( even if technically Hashirama's sage mode is linked to mokuton) belongs to the senju while the sharingan and rinnegan belongs to the Uchiha.

So if Madara is to be equaled Sasuke and Naruto would have to team up. And as for Sakura. Where is she?

 

With the K9 as an unofficial coequal who is apparently intended to share her panel time with supporting cast members whenever she appears. It's disappointing because every member of Team 7 (excluding Yamato) has been able to make an impression of some sort in these recent chapters. Even Sai had his moments when he attempted to seal Madara and when he attacked to rescue Sasuke. 

 

It's a gross mishandling of her potential. Kishimoto claimed that Sakura would appear and act more as a heroine in a previous interview but outside of #632 and a few other chapters, she hasn't made herself stand out much. Does he believe that these brief moments are enough to validate the notion of heroism? Is it just that difficult for him to properly write Sakura as a participant in the fight and story for extended periods? 

Edited by Atheck, 23 December 2013 - 08:39 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I understood it as Kishi will explore Sasuke's mind to explain how he took the decision to become Hokage. 

Wait what?

How can he ever want to become hokage after killing Naruto?

[Dkey]

Wait what?

How can he ever want to become hokage after killing Naruto?

 

So he can rule.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

So he can rule.

Implying no one would oppose him like even the kages and the alliance, Konoha is not isolated they have an alliance treaty and the high level ninjas like Kamui, Omoi, Bee, Sakura, Tsunade, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Gaara, Mizukage, Raikage and etc.. would kick his ass, Sasuke cant defeat them, and dont forget the bijuus too.
If Sasuke was like Naruto or Sasuke was OP like Madara it would be another story.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 December 2013 - 09:10 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Implying no one would oppose him like even the kages and the alliance, Konoha is not isolated they have an alliance treaty and the high level ninjas like Kamui, Omoi, Bee, Sakura, Tsunade, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Gaara, Mizukage, Raikage and etc.. would kick his ass, Sasuke cant defeat them, and dont forget the bijuus too.
If Sasuke was like Naruto or Sasuke was OP like Madara it would be another story.

I'm really curious on how Sasuke is going to pull this off. That time will come but how exactly. It does seem like killing all Bijuus from his intention would lower fire power from the good side. But then, what about the rest? I guess we're all like Orochimaru, waiting for that new wind.

[Dkey]

Implying no one would oppose him like even the kages and the alliance, Konoha is not isolated they have an alliance treaty and the high level ninjas like Kamui, Omoi, Bee, Sakura, Tsunade, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Gaara, Mizukage, Raikage and etc.. would kick his ass, Sasuke cant defeat them, and dont forget the bijuus too.
If Sasuke was like Naruto or Sasuke was OP like Madara it would be another story.

 

Thing is he can become a Madara. In his progression he went from not needing a new power to getting his ass handed to him and then going after that power so he could obtain somehow Rinnegan and he is pretty familiar with sage mode so he could steal somehow from somewhere.

 

Right now Sasuke isn't at Naruto's level but the thing is he can be.

As for the Bijuus I assumed they died with Naruto somehow.

[redragon88]

Yeah, Sasuke's pretty popular over there.

 

And SS too from what you've said. But the general idea there is still that NS is what is meant to happen, right? Or were they excited with Jump Festa because they seriously believe Sasuke is going to do some 180 and make some love confession to Sakura later in the manga?

 

I really hope they aren't that stupid.

 

Also, I can't believe Kishi just straight up said he doesn't know how to defeat Madara. I couldn't stop laughing when I read that. Come Kishi, seriously?

 

I guess that's his ultimate flaw, he creates broad concepts but doesn't worry about going into details until the last possible moment. I think that might've affected how the dealt with Sakura's feelings.

Edited by redragon88, 23 December 2013 - 10:01 PM.

[六道仙人]

To me it was more a flirt between VAs than a SS moment LOL

 

Kishimoto just got out of hand about Madara's strength.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

And SS too from what you've said. But the general idea there is still that NS is what is meant to happen, right? Or were they excited with Jump Festa because they seriously believe Sasuke is going to do some 180 and make some love confession to Sakura later in the manga?

 

I really hope they aren't that stupid.

 

Also, I can't believe Kishi just straight up said he doesn't know how to defeat Madara. I couldn't stop laughing when I read that. Come Kishi, seriously?

 

I guess that's his ultimate flaw, he creates broad concepts but doesn't worry about going into details until the last possible moment. I think that might've affected how the dealt with Sakura's feelings.

It's shippers, obviously they would freak out.

 

On my opinion i think it's too late for SS to be canon or something like that because it reached a part that only SS fans would like this because any normal fans or who is not into ships know how bad this pairing is in terms of respect.

She ending with Sasuke only proves to me that Sakura has no self respect just to show how SS stands.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 December 2013 - 10:57 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Remember, shipping fans are loud. This implies to all. That comic con of Avatar video demonstrated the best. It's a nutshell in my opinion.

[Hiraishin]

Let's clarify a bit here about the JF

-On the Naruto's stage were present, as guests, Kishimoto Masashi and the author of "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Kenji Taira. And Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi's voice actors, of course.

-They asked to voice actors to draw a war scene that have impressed them the most. For some twist of fate, Sugiyama and Nakamura (respectively, the Sasuke and Sakura's VA) drew the scene of Sasuke where he said "I want to become Hokage". Therefore, Naruto and Kakashi VAs teased them (Kakashi's VA: "Isn't Sasuke and Sakura getting awell together?" Naruto's VA "Sure!") in front of the audience and they blushed a little. I would venture to say that've flirted despite Miss Nakamura is married LOL.

-The VAs have then stage some war scenes. Sasuke and Sakura staged the scene of Sasuke's arrival on the battlefield, the one where there's
Sakura: Sasuke-kun?!
Sasuke: Sakura, uh...?

Then you have other scenes but they haven't provided any other details. A tweet mentioned that there has been some cute NS, NaruSasu and NaruKaka situations.

-Kishimoto said that he wouldn't be certain that next year there will be a Naruto stafe at JF. However the thing about "Naruto could end within a year" was wrong.

-Kishimoto said that he exaggerated to make Madara too powerful. And since Naruto's the main character, he needs to carry out the plot and will have to find out a way to defeat him, a way that at the moment he doesn't still know how. He will have to talk with his editor about that.

-They've also asked him if the statement from Sasuke about the desire to become Hokage was something that he has planned since a long time.
Kishimoto-sensei said yes but he didn't know how to take it out yet. And he also knows that a such thing would have surprised the readers. Furthermore, he will explain further the reasons behind that surprising statement, by going to explore Sasuke's mind.

Thanks for the info! Hopefully we find out what the NS scene was soon.

Nice, I knew Naruto couldn't end in 2014.

About Kishi making Madara too powerful and not knowing how Naruto will defeat him yet... I should have known. That explains the past few chapters where not much has happened except Madara showing how powerful he is, and we can expect more of those kind of chapters to come.

 
With the K9 as an unofficial coequal who is apparently intended to share her panel time with supporting cast members whenever she appears. It's disappointing because every member of Team 7 (excluding Yamato) has been able to make an impression of some sort in these recent chapters. Even Sai had his moments when he attempted to seal Madara and when he attacked to rescue Sasuke. 
 
It's a gross mishandling of her potential. Kishimoto claimed that Sakura would appear and act more as a heroine in a previous interview but outside of #632 and a few other chapters, she hasn't made herself stand out much. Does he believe that these brief moments are enough to validate the notion of heroism? Is it just that difficult for him to properly write Sakura as a participant in the fight and story for extended periods? 

Nice post, I agree. I would have said something about Sakura, or at least tried to.

About Kishi thinking those brief moments are enough to make her out be more of a heroine... Probably.

Edited by Hiraishin, 24 December 2013 - 01:22 AM.

[Branden]

Remember, shipping fans are loud. This implies to all. That comic con of Avatar video demonstrated the best. It's a nutshell in my opinion.

can you link to it? i have never heard this mentioned before.