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[Codus N]

OMG.... that is the most well thought-out analysis of the confession.... (hats off to you cats!!!)

[jason voorhees]

(blinks).... wow catsi .......wow

[Zin]

You don't even really need to look that deep into it to know she wasn't lying. Throughout that entire arc, Sai never once says that Sakura is lying about her feelings. His exact words were "She thought she'd lessen your burden by giving up on Sasuke and confessing her love for you". That right there is saying that she loves Naruto. But she was a little...naive...to believe she could just "shut off" her feelings for Sasuke just because she needed to. 483-484 imo, brought reality crashing down on Sakura. The Sasuke she loved... never existed in the first place.

I'd say that was the final chapter for SasuSaku even being remotely plausible.(Of course...it never really was to begin with...Sasuke never had any interest in her.)

I've kind of had a thought nagging at me ever since Minato and Kushina's relationship was explained.

Kushina said that she fell in love with Minato when he complimented her on the physical attribute that she was teased about(her hair). Naruto complimented Sakura on the physical attribute that she was teased about(her forehead), but did so under a henge as Sasuke. I'm just wondering if Sakura fell in love with Sasuke at that point. I pretty much feel that when that bench scene is addressed and Sakura finds out it was actually Naruto. NaruSaku will become canon. Or perhaps I'm just delusional...

Edited by Zin, 17 August 2010 - 10:34 AM.

[jason voorhees]

i believe ns will become cannon ether way jest jest more hart warming with chapter 3 its forshadowed.

[Gravenimage]

what I mean by blowing off the confession is that, what if it just means that those could only just be friends?

If that's the case then why even after the confession Kishi is still making NS development as well as giving hints (I'm talking about the MK paralel to NS and Kushina's last words to the baby Naruto in regards with not picking weird girls find someone like your mother)?

If Kishi wanted to end NS as the possibility of becoming a canon pairing and just stay as a friendship pairing he would stop the development and giving the hints and he will develop another pairing from out of the blue like making NH canon (and so far he hasn't given any hints of that ever happening not even in the least.)

Hinata's confession will be left hanging Naruto doesn't have to answer it because we all know who he really loves (Kishi will probably follow the reader in not showing Naruto answering her confession) it was also Hinata's closure to her character development because that was the theme of her character. To overcome herself in telling Naruto how she feels and now it's done, she's a secondary character which means she's not important with Kishi closing her character development there's no more need of ever bringing her up to the manga.

My opinion don't give up on NS it's very much alive Naruto and Sakura obviously have to talk things out. Don't forget that Sakura is in Konoha with Tsunade she might probably tell her about her confession just to get some advice from her.

Edited by Gravenimage, 17 August 2010 - 11:15 AM.

[catsi563]

actually Hinatas confession will likely not be resolved or even discussed at all.

Such heroic confessions by the ""shy girl"" are rarely directly confronted in shonen stories. The end result usually is that the shy girl gets killed or dies semi heroically, or sometimes the shy girl simply fades into the background her singular moment of heroism and final bit of character growth done with.

[alexander]

actually Hinatas confession will likely not be resolved or even discussed at all.

Such heroic confessions by the ""shy girl"" are rarely directly confronted in shonen stories. The end result usually is that the shy girl gets killed or dies semi heroically, or sometimes the shy girl simply fades into the background her singular moment of heroism and final bit of character growth done with.

Without saying that if Kishimoto show Naruto giving her a response, we pretty much would know the answer, and he would have to deal with a lot of hate messages of angry Hinata fans for showing Naruto "breaking her heart", if you know what I mean...

[Toasty Warrior]

I'm very sure Kishimoto wouldn't do that to the other fans and keep them hanging, if anything, he at least needs to resolve the confession Hinata gave to Naruto, so both sides will be pleased.

[Gravenimage]

actually Hinatas confession will likely not be resolved or even discussed at all.

Such heroic confessions by the ""shy girl"" are rarely directly confronted in shonen stories. The end result usually is that the shy girl gets killed or dies semi heroically, or sometimes the shy girl simply fades into the background her singular moment of heroism and final bit of character growth done with.

I guess you're right catsi it seems since Hinata's confession Kishi has really keep a low profile on Hinata. The first time she appears with Naruto was back at 488 and yet Kishi seemed to be lacking the ability to draw her properly or maybe he did it on purpose (if anyone noticed how poorly draw she was drawn in the couple of panels she appeared). Not to mention that she didn't said a word at all she just stood there listening to everyone and she didn't tried to defend Naruto about his current situation with Sasuke. Then another time she appeared was in the flashback from Naruto at 505 Hinata had her head turned away from the smiling Naruto and it seemed like she was more kept in the dark than the other characters.

The NH fandom believed all of those are secret hints from Kishi that he's going to resolve her confession and that there will be an answer from Naruto. In my opinion they are wrong however catsi I hope you're wrong about Hinata dying I don't want her to die. Also let's not forget that Hinata is a popular character if he kills her the NH fandom will go insane and they will stop reading the manga. Kishi should know better.

Edited by Gravenimage, 17 August 2010 - 06:35 PM.

[Derock]

The NH fandom believed all of those are secret hints from Kishi that he's going to resolve her confession and that there will be an answer from Naruto. In my opinion they are wrong however catsi I hope you're wrong about Hinata dying I don't want her to die. Also let's not forget that Hinata is a popular character if he kills her the NH fandom will go insane and they will stop reading the manga. Kishi should know better.

Why say that? Hinata is twice as much as popular (ahem, worship is a better term) in the Western shores. While we had seen this with the anime (yes we're looking at you guys because of that episode ), he doesn't give a damn when a specific fandom goes crazy if he tries to kill a certain character (and I believe Hinata already had that issue when we saw it in the manga). Did we ever try to curse him out when previous characters died such as Itachi or Jiraiya? I rather had him just write/draw his story by his own ideas and research without any reliable help from the fans, especially with pairings.

In other words, let him write/draw what he have to write/draw.

[ciardha]

actually Hinatas confession will likely not be resolved or even discussed at all.

Such heroic confessions by the ""shy girl"" are rarely directly confronted in shonen stories. The end result usually is that the shy girl gets killed or dies semi heroically, or sometimes the shy girl simply fades into the background her singular moment of heroism and final bit of character growth done with.

Probably the later. I'm expecting in the final chapter we will find out she's married to Kiba. Kishimoto's been throwing little hints of Kibahina all along, and what with how she's been on Kiba's side when we've seen group interactions, especially in part 2. Even when Kiba is verbally laying into Naruto she makes no objections, nor even looks dismayed at Kiba...

[Quinny52]

While I can agree on Catsi's points, I myself would prefer if there was an 'ultimate resolution' to the business of Hinata's as of yet unaddressed confession. It does seem the series still has a way to go before the end, so we can be certain that Naruto and Hinata will interact again in the future. I just think it would be a little awkward to see these two interact without some form of previous scene showing them talking about where they stand with eachother, even though we (as in we, the NS fans) know this already considering Naruto's thoughts on girls, and Hinata's seemingly content look in 450. We might know the situation, but I doubt the majority of NH fans do, or do and are just being ignorant. I just think Kishi could afford to show 1-3 pages that show the two characters settling any issues, so at least NH fans can walk away from this thinking "well, at least he addressed the moment and gave us a conclusion", rather than leaving them feeling like they had been, as some people have said, 'left hanging'.

Edited by Quinny52, 17 August 2010 - 08:37 PM.

[Gravenimage]

While I can agree on Catsi's points, I myself would prefer if there was an 'ultimate resolution' to the business of Hinata's as of yet unaddressed confession. It does seem the series still has a way to go before the end, so we can be certain that Naruto and Hinata will interact again in the future. I just think it would be a little awkward to see these two interact without some form of previous scene showing them talking about where they stand with eachother, even though we (as in we, the NS fans) know this already considering Naruto's thoughts on girls, and Hinata's seemingly content look in 450. We might know the situation, but I doubt the majority of NH fans do, or do and are just being ignorant. I just think Kishi could afford to show 1-3 pages that show the two characters settling any issues, so at least NH fans can walk away from this thinking "well, at least he addressed the moment and gave us a conclusion", rather than leaving them feeling like they had been, as some people have said, 'left hanging'.

Quinny if Kishi does show Naruto telling Hinata that he likes someone else (Sakura obviously) I seriously doubt the NH fandom will say that at least he talk to her about the confession. They will go mad beyond rage saying "WTF I can't believe he doesn't love Hinata she has love him since the beginning why does he has to love that b**** Sakura yata yata all of that. It will also increase their hatred for both Naruto and Sakura further more.

Derock@

Yeah I agree with you Kishi is the creator of Naruto it's his manga let him write and draw what he wants to draw or write from his own ideas not the fans.

Edited by Gravenimage, 17 August 2010 - 09:11 PM.

[Toasty Warrior]

So no matter which way we look at it, even if Kishimoto were to resolve Hinata's confession, it would anger a lot of fans and the cycle of fandomness will continue anew like it always does.

Edited by Toasty Warrior, 17 August 2010 - 09:56 PM.

[Gravenimage]

So no matter which way we look at it, even if Kishimoto were to resolve Hinata's confession, it would angry a lot of fans and the cycle of fandomness will continue anew like it always does.

Yep that's pretty much it. If Kishi plans to kill Hinata like catsi mentioned not only the fandom will be mad but they will start saying" that NS became canon because Hinata died" along with other biased comments.

[Toasty Warrior]

That's what I don't like, they just keep adding more wood to an already dying fire and they're trying to keep it going by doing that, we try to be nice and respect their opinions, but sometimes I just find it hard to do.

[K9ofChaos]

the answer is no but question is actually incorrect given the development of Sakuras feelings for naruto and away from Sasuke. Since she had changed her feelings from Sasuke to Naruto a long time ago romantically, she has no feelings for Sasuke to mvoe on from.

the only feelings she retains are the feelings which naruto rekindled in her which are those of the team 7 bond, and those she has not moved on from.



as early as chapter 3 with the bench scene. when she realized she needed to be nicer to naruto, and when Sasuke chastized her to do so.



No her feelings were for Naruto and this was made very clear in her confession. The reason is explained above she has allready long moved on romantically to Naruto.


and guys this is a debate thread. Ahmed has a perfect right to ask questions if he hasnt seen any answers to the ones he has. if you dont want to answer them theres no need to be rude or dismissive.

I thought that your view of the confession was that she had romantic feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke while still having lingering feelings from the past and not moving on a long time ago or something along the lines like that.


Did I misunderstand you in the past or did your views on the situation change or something? I'm a bit confused here right now.

Edited by K9ofChaos, 17 August 2010 - 10:12 PM.

[Quinny52]

@Gravenimage - Kishimoto's going to get a negative reaction regardless of which choice he makes, but at least with my scenario it could end up being an 'initial' outrage. I know there's always gonna be protesters whining that "It should've been NH!!" and that can't be helped, but in a couple years time (when the series has been over for a while), you're gonna get some fans who're gonna look back over this and realise it was never going to be, but can be glad that Kishi ended them on good terms. If my scenario happened and there're still fans asking themselves "WTF hapened?" "Where did we go wrong?" or "Why, Kishi. WHY!?", then the only one's who they can point the finger at are themselves, either because their perception of events is WAY OFF, or they've just dismissed the evidence that goes against their ship, in which case their ignorance is to blame.

But really, so what if they get angry? They can't do anything about it, none of us can. If they can't accept Kishi's decision then they've got the problems.

[Gravenimage]

@Gravenimage - Kishimoto's going to get a negative reaction regardless of which choice he makes, but at least with my scenario it could end up being an 'initial' outrage. I know there's always gonna be protesters whining that "It should've been NH!!" and that can't be helped, but in a couple years time (when the series has been over for a while), you're gonna get some fans who're gonna look back over this and realise it was never going to be, but can be glad that Kishi ended them on good terms. If my scenario happened and there're still fans asking themselves "WTF hapened?" "Where did we go wrong?" or "Why, Kishi. WHY!?", then the only one's who they can point the finger at are themselves, either because their perception of events is WAY OFF, or they've just dismissed the evidence that goes against their ship, in which case their ignorance is to blame.

But really, so what if they get angry? They can't do anything about it, none of us can. If they can't accept Kishi's decision then they've got the problems.

Yeah I hear you for example Inuyasha the manga and the anime ended which the canon pairing was Inuyasha and Kagome they got married. To this very day there are still people complaining and whinning that it should have been Inuyasha and Kikyo. They were saying they were meant to be because they were past lovers but that's not how it ended because of the huge development between Inuyasha and Kagome in the entire manga, in addition Kagome is a tsundere which is the most common pairing for the main protagonist in a shonen manga just like Sakura to Naruto.

[catsi563]

thought that your view of the confession was that she had romantic feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke while still having lingering feelings from the past and not moving on a long time ago or something along the lines like that.

Did I misunderstand you in the past or did your views on the situation change or something? I'm a bit confused here right now.

The story is pointing to her having feelings for naruto romantically, with lingering feelings for sasuke that have been changed to more mature feelings involving her bond with Sasuke as part of team 7. My opinions remained pretty consistent with some room to grow as the story presents more of itself. Heck awhile back I would never have thought Hinata would confess to naruto in the way she did, but I was surprised.

the one thing that I did maintain was that there was a possibility brought on by the bench scene as to why Sakura held on as long as she did. A possibility reinforced a little by Kushinas revelation of minatos complimenting her hair.