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#12361 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 11:51 PM

Subjective..not my subjective. I was talking from a critical viewpoint. If I were to analyze it, I would rate it good. It has flaws like you said, but few compared to other aspects of the story.

Yes, on my opinion is the only thing worthwhile on the story after all the crap Kishi pulled into the story.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 12:37 AM

 

That is the only element in which I'm happy to say SAKURA SUCKS!

Lol. Well, it reminds me of the movie where all the characteristics is "great" but one huge flaw is love.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:38 AM

Just checkin in guys. Gotta say can't handle the lack of NS



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:41 AM

I like that too. Many people say the romance in Naruto sucks, but if you understand it you will see that it is very well written. It has a few flaws, but it is still one of Kishi's strengths and not weaknesses.

I think, and hope that I understand.. ;P

romance suck in naruto because it getting too long to get a resolution, I think. but I can understand why kishi took that route.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:05 AM

romance suck in naruto because it getting too long to get a resolution, I think. but I can understand why kishi took that route.

 

Yeah he's dragging it for to long i think he should end it already so the pairing wars could get more toned down.  :ermm:



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:15 AM

romance suck in naruto because it getting too long to get a resolution, I think. but I can understand why kishi took that route.

But that's just thing. This is Shounen that is focusing on battles, so to get this amount of developments is a blessing in disguise.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:47 AM

romance suck in naruto because it getting too long to get a resolution, I think. but I can understand why kishi took that route.

hum i wont say that its 100% correct. I think that by taking a bit time he tried to make things dramatic or u know interestng. But he took much time in resolution. Still we cant say that it sucks. Its still interesting to me. If he is gonna keep the resolution till the end i wouldnt mind. Cuz it should clear all the doubts about ss and nh.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 07:28 AM

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not exactly 'bash', but you can see the difference in treatment.

Yeah that's to be taken in a comedic way, but even though, i feel they've only made hinata worst character wise. Just my opinion.

 

 

I wouldn't say Pierrot necessarily tries to bash Sakura, but there were many times where they over exaggerated her aggressiveness and overall tended to portray her as a more severe form of tsundere than the manga shows her to be, but then again they also made Naruto often more clueless and dim-witted than he actually is. I think it's more the tendency of anime to exaggerate character stereotypes than intentional bashing.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 07:35 AM

i found a NS speech at the stage. I translated it:

 

Team 7 situation

Naruto: Regarding you, Sakura-chan, I'm not thinking that you're weak but... don't let yourself to meet a dangerous eye, dattebayo!

Sakura: Uh, Sasuke-kun!? (Why) Sasuke-kun would do a such thing...?

Naruto: No, Sasuke's...

Sakura: I wonder if I'm so unreliable...

Naruto: N, No it's not that...!!

aw this is cute, imagine if this actually happens in the manga? wouldnt be surprised! 

Man i cant wait to see sakura again in the manga!  :sakura:

 

I personally dont feel like the manga is gonna end in 2014

 

Oh and lol guys look what they did for the bathrooms and this naruto event

 

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 11:07 AM

@all

thanks for the replies. well that's what the other fan from the other forum said for why naruto romance suck.

while I can understand why kishi do it, because for me a romance story can't take that long. I mean if naruto is a romance manga, than it story would span for 20-ish volume.

and I agree with narusaku4life that this is a shonen battle manga.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 12:06 PM

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The opposite fandom is bashing Sakura about her "Sasuke-kun", but this!!

Hinata is a better fangirl than Sakura, there is no doubt about it. 615 & 616 proves it (Naruto's hand is so warm, while Neji is on the ground)

 

Anyway, everyone has the right to appreciate x character. But don't make fun of one character, when the one you support isn't better.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:03 PM

 

 

But that's just thing. This is Shounen that is focusing on battles, so to get this amount of developments is a blessing in disguise.

 

Being shounen does not mean it necessarily focuses on battles. There are tons of classic shounen manga focused on romance with little to not action: Kimagure Orange Road, Touch, Video Girl Ai, Maison Ikkoku... And many series heavy on on both romance and action: Ranma 1/2, Tosho Daimos...


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:18 PM

 

Being shounen does not mean it necessarily focuses on battles. There are tons of classic shounen manga focused on romance with little to not action: Kimagure Orange Road, Touch, Video Girl Ai, Maison Ikkoku... And many series heavy on on both romance and action: Ranma 1/2, Tosho Daimos...

Naruto is a Shounen "nekketsu", so it s supposed to focus only on battles.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:56 PM

Yes, but from what I understand, the sentence I quoted was talking about shonen manga in general rather fighting manga. "All shonen manga always being about fights and battles" is a common mistake I see everywhere, so I felt a clarification was necessary.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:33 PM

romance suck in naruto because it getting too long to get a resolution, I think. but I can understand why kishi took that route.

Of course it's dragging on, but that's not a romance issue. It's just that everything in the story suffers from it, but "it's not the romance fault!"


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:44 PM

 

Being shounen does not mean it necessarily focuses on battles. There are tons of classic shounen manga focused on romance with little to not action: Kimagure Orange Road, Touch, Video Girl Ai, Maison Ikkoku... And many series heavy on on both romance and action: Ranma 1/2, Tosho Daimos...

That's the thing though, Naruto is on action. Think as One Piece direction, it's all around but romance. You can focus on anything, but at times, you wanted to focus on one big important piece. Naruto is focusing on bonds, so romance is there, but not the main highlight. Also, time has changed from those. Why you think we don't get another DBZ or HnK, etc. Maybe we do, but it won't be a weekly ongoing thing.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:12 PM

Let's clarify a bit here about the JF

-On the Naruto's stage were present, as guests, Kishimoto Masashi and the author of "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Kenji Taira. And Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi's voice actors, of course.

-They asked to voice actors to draw a war scene that have impressed them the most. For some twist of fate, Sugiyama and Nakamura (respectively, the Sasuke and Sakura's VA) drew the scene of Sasuke where he said "I want to become Hokage". Therefore, Naruto and Kakashi VAs teased them (Kakashi's VA: "Isn't Sasuke and Sakura getting awell together?" Naruto's VA "Sure!") in front of the audience and they blushed a little. I would venture to say that've flirted despite Miss Nakamura is married LOL.

-The VAs have then stage some war scenes. Sasuke and Sakura staged the scene of Sasuke's arrival on the battlefield, the one where there's
Sakura: Sasuke-kun?!
Sasuke: Sakura, uh...?

Then you have other scenes but they haven't provided any other details. A tweet mentioned that there has been some cute NS, NaruSasu and NaruKaka situations.

-Kishimoto said that he wouldn't be certain that next year there will be a Naruto stafe at JF. However the thing about "Naruto could end within a year" was wrong.

-Kishimoto said that he exaggerated to make Madara too powerful. And since Naruto's the main character, he needs to carry out the plot and will have to find out a way to defeat him, a way that at the moment he doesn't still know how. He will have to talk with his editor about that.

-They've also asked him if the statement from Sasuke about the desire to become Hokage was something that he has planned since a long time.
Kishimoto-sensei said yes but he didn't know how to take it out yet. And he also knows that a such thing would have surprised the readers. Furthermore, he will explain further the reasons behind that surprising statement, by going to explore Sasuke's mind.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:18 PM

Let's clarify a bit here about the JF

-On the Naruto's stage were present, as guests, Kishimoto Masashi and the author of "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Kenji Taira. And Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi's voice actors, of course.

-They asked to voice actors to draw a war scene that have impressed them the most. For some twist of fate, Sugiyama and Nakamura (respectively, the Sasuke and Sakura's VA) drew the scene of Sasuke where he said "I want to become Hokage". Therefore, Naruto and Kakashi VAs teased them (Kakashi's VA: "Isn't Sasuke and Sakura getting awell together?" Naruto's VA "Sure!") in front of the audience and they blushed a little. I would venture to say that've flirted despite Miss Nakamura is married LOL.

-The VAs have then stage some war scenes. Sasuke and Sakura staged the scene of Sasuke's arrival on the battlefield, the one where there's
Sakura: Sasuke-kun?!
Sasuke: Sakura, uh...?

Then you have other scenes but they haven't provided any other details. A tweet mentioned that there has been some cute NS, NaruSasu and NaruKaka situations.

-Kishimoto said that he wouldn't be certain that next year there will be a Naruto stafe at JF. However the thing about "Naruto could end within a year" was wrong.

-Kishimoto said that he exaggerated to make Madara too powerful. And since Naruto's the main character, he needs to carry out the plot and will have to find out a way to defeat him, a way that at the moment he doesn't still know how. He will have to talk with his editor about that.

-They've also asked him if the statement from Sasuke about the desire to become Hokage was something that he has planned since a long time.
Kishimoto-sensei said yes but he didn't know how to take it out yet. And he also knows that a such thing would have surprised the readers. Furthermore, he will explain further the reasons behind that surprising statement, by going to explore Sasuke's mind.

Thanks.

 

Shame that the secrets/hints are sealed since it's in near ending of the series, so we can't ask where's Yamato, the status of a character, etc. But oh well, more wait, more patience.



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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:26 PM

Let's clarify a bit here about the JF

-On the Naruto's stage were present, as guests, Kishimoto Masashi and the author of "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Kenji Taira. And Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi's voice actors, of course.

-They asked to voice actors to draw a war scene that have impressed them the most. For some twist of fate, Sugiyama and Nakamura (respectively, the Sasuke and Sakura's VA) drew the scene of Sasuke where he said "I want to become Hokage". Therefore, Naruto and Kakashi VAs teased them (Kakashi's VA: "Isn't Sasuke and Sakura getting awell together?" Naruto's VA "Sure!") in front of the audience and they blushed a little. I would venture to say that've flirted despite Miss Nakamura is married LOL.

-The VAs have then stage some war scenes. Sasuke and Sakura staged the scene of Sasuke's arrival on the battlefield, the one where there's
Sakura: Sasuke-kun?!
Sasuke: Sakura, uh...?

Then you have other scenes but they haven't provided any other details. A tweet mentioned that there has been some cute NS, NaruSasu and NaruKaka situations.

-Kishimoto said that he wouldn't be certain that next year there will be a Naruto stafe at JF. However the thing about "Naruto could end within a year" was wrong.

-Kishimoto said that he exaggerated to make Madara too powerful. And since Naruto's the main character, he needs to carry out the plot and will have to find out a way to defeat him, a way that at the moment he doesn't still know how. He will have to talk with his editor about that.

-They've also asked him if the statement from Sasuke about the desire to become Hokage was something that he has planned since a long time.
Kishimoto-sensei said yes but he didn't know how to take it out yet. And he also knows that a such thing would have surprised the readers. Furthermore, he will explain further the reasons behind that surprising statement, by going to explore Sasuke's mind.

Too bad they are not mentioned, it gives the impression that there was a lot of SasuSaku which is sad. And now you can be sure you won't be able to said SS fans that the "Sakura huh?" comment was not a SasuSaku moment anymore. 

But overall, that JF seemed to be focused on Sasuke except for the Madara question. 


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 04:27 PM

We're in the middle of the Madara fight and Kishi still doesn't know how to end it? :blink:

 

That must be why he's dragging it on. Making chapters with zero to little plot progression..he's buying time.


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