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#12361 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 10 2013, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I mentioned in yesterday podcast, but I have said this many times. Naruto to Sakura problem is not on her, rather it's himself. Let's say Sai asked him that question and he said, "Sakura loves Sasuke," then we may have a problem to make ourselves equal in a way to SS. The fact that Naruto blames himself makes us feel sorry for him and want him to overcome it. If he said what I wrote above, that's hard to support because he's in that mode of giving up. In this case, he's not rather just feel unworthy. He won't give up his feelings for her, but he won't come to her and confess.

I remember on a Naruto's game that Mei said to Naruto that with this attitude he will never get the girl.

I think Sakura already overcome the whole "unworthy" thing with the ending of that mini-arc because she feels that Naruto's burden has been lifted and she helped him to do it.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Mar 10 2013, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do anyone consider Sasuke attack Karin is the same as Naruto(Kyuubi 4 tail) attack Sakura, we found out that Mangekyou can influence the user to become more darker. maybe when Sasuke and Karin meet again, Sasuke might have some regret what he done to her.


I do not think the two can be compared . Naruto completely lost control of himself and was not conscious of his actions and it was actually the kyuubi that attacked Sakura . Sasuke on the other hand was fully aware of what he was doing and he made the choice to sacrifice Karin himself , not to mention that after the fight he would have killed Karin for sure if it weren't for Sakura arriving just then .

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Mar 10 2013, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do anyone consider Sasuke attack Karin is the same as Naruto(Kyuubi 4 tail) attack Sakura, we found out that Mangekyou can influence the user to become more darker. maybe when Sasuke and Karin meet again, Sasuke might have some regret what he done to her.

The meeting between Sasuke and Karin is what I'm waiting for in terms of seeing Sasuke's words and reaction when he sees her again. I don't know about regret, though I want to see Sasuke feeling regret cause it's like a dream, but maybe he'll talk with her about her survive and the fact that she's an Uzumaki. This can create a conversation between them.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Mar 10 2013, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do anyone consider Sasuke attack Karin is the same as Naruto(Kyuubi 4 tail) attack Sakura, we found out that Mangekyou can influence the user to become more darker. maybe when Sasuke and Karin meet again, Sasuke might have some regret what he done to her.

I do want to see the reunion, not for the sake SK, rather to see where is this heading, especially Karin is an Uzumaki. That will create a stir if kages stay and Orochimaru most likely comment something about her. I want to know if Team Taka is truly back or one man out.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Mar 10 2013, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do anyone consider Sasuke attack Karin is the same as Naruto(Kyuubi 4 tail) attack Sakura, we found out that Mangekyou can influence the user to become more darker. maybe when Sasuke and Karin meet again, Sasuke might have some regret what he done to her.

Wouldn't that mean that he wasn't in full control when he tried to kill sakura? rolleyes.gif

no, those two incidents were completely different. Sasuke new what he was doing, he chose to sacrifice karin inorder to kill danzou, naruto however wasn't himself.( and the kyuubi was the one to hit her acually not naruto himself)



QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 10 2013, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The meeting between Sasuke and Karin is what I'm waiting for in terms of seeing Sasuke's words and reaction when he sees her again. I don't know about regret, though I want to see Sasuke feeling regret cause it's like a dream, but maybe he'll talk with her about her survive and the fact that she's an Uzumaki. This can create a conversation between them.

Sasuke has too much pride to apologize for someone wink.gif let alone karin.
But he might talk to her about her being an uzumaki. I think it depends on whether or not karin demands an aplogogy. But she was really hurt back then, so I don't know how she'll react when she meets him again.

Edited by candycane-chan, 10 March 2013 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 10 2013, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't that mean that he wasn't in full control when he tried to kill sakura? rolleyes.gif

no, those two incidents were completely different. Sasuke new what he was doing, he chose to sacrifice karin inorder to kill danzou, naruto however wasn't himself.( and the kyuubi was the one to hit her acually not naruto himself)




Sasuke has too much pride to apologize for someone wink.gif let alone karin.
But he might talk to her about her being an uzumaki. I think it depends on whether or not karin demands an aplogogy. But she was really hurt back then, so I don't know how she'll react when she meets him again.

I think Karin will be very neutral towards Sasuke. I don't think she'll go and hug him right away like a bafoon like she used to. I think that Karin will be neutral in the first time she meets him again, then, well, in terms in how she'll be with him, it depends from their talk. But, I'm sure that Karin will be back in Team Taka XD

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:15 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 10 2013, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Karin will be very neutral towards Sasuke. I don't think she'll go and hug him right away like a bafoon like she used to. I think that Karin will be neutral in the first time she meets him again, then, well, in terms in how she'll be with him, it depends from their talk. But, I'm sure that Karin will be back in Team Taka XD

I just want to know how it will go down. Will she rejoin by force or she decided to go back? If the latter, how and why? So yeah, I'm waiting for that moment.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 10 2013, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't that mean that he wasn't in full control when he tried to kill sakura? rolleyes.gif

no, those two incidents were completely different. Sasuke new what he was doing, he chose to sacrifice karin inorder to kill danzou, naruto however wasn't himself.( and the kyuubi was the one to hit her acually not naruto himself)

Well, Sasuke plans were to kill team 7 and the rest of kohona after the truth of Itachi, so he was gonna kill Sakura no matter what happens. Plus, Sasuke did not had his sharingan activated while trying to kill Sakura but he did for Karin.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 10 2013, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Karin will be very neutral towards Sasuke. I don't think she'll go and hug him right away like a bafoon like she used to. I think that Karin will be neutral in the first time she meets him again, then, well, in terms in how she'll be with him, it depends from their talk. But, I'm sure that Karin will be back in Team Taka XD

I think so too. I'm just hoping that kishi doesn't let sasuke go with a pass this time.
Of course she'll remain in Team TAKA, especially after sasuke found out she's an uzumaki. And the possibility of them them reuniting is especially high now that the team is close to karin.

narusaku4life I don't think it'll by force in anyway. I'm just curious whether or not karin will act as if nothing happened or if she'll want to talk it out with sasuke, who might even postpond the "talk" since he has greater things on his mind. Kishi could make him head to battle feild to help naruto as a root for his possible redemption. That's all just speculating though.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 10 2013, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think so too. I'm just hoping that kishi doesn't let sasuke go with a pass this time.
Of course she'll remain in Team TAKA, especially after sasuke found out she's an uzumaki. And the possibility of them them reuniting is especially high now that the team is close to karin.

narusaku4life I don't think it'll by force in anyway. I'm just curious whether or not karin will act as if nothing happened or if she'll want to talk it out with sasuke, who might even postpond the "talk" since he has greater things on his mind. Kishi could make him head to battle feild to help naruto as a root for his possible redemption. That's all just speculating though.

Good thing. I just want to the idea behind of making Karin as an Uzumaki, let alone not yet reunited. It just feels very suspicious as in we are falling for a trap by Kishi. If she does goes back to the team, I want to know how and why. When it comes reuniting, she's the most interesting one.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Mar 9 2013, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After treating someone like a child and a idiot, give him the impression that yo will never fall for him but times come where you have to tell this person how you feel about him, the question is will you be able to look on his eye act the start if you're telling him something that not only you but no one ever expect would happen?
Not only that but is a common thing that when ever a Anime girl need to admit something she was hiding from the other she always feel a little embarrassed and act like a little 7 years girl or turn around a blush because they don't want the person to see there face.


People love to say that Sakura was fully lying and purposely hurt Naruto, but I always look on it this way, why Sakura will vow to never make another error or hurt him anymore, but instead made a fake confession declaring her love knowing that is something Naruto always dreamed for, isn't that behavior a lot more hurtful for Naruto if she really didn't care about his feelings? Saying that she loves him when she doesn't automatically qualifies her of not caring it she hurts him.


This^ to the last paragraph. Exactly it's simple logic back at 459 she promised herself not to make another mistake. So lying to Naruto that she loves him will be a big mistake, hmm...She said she doesn't want to make another mistake right why lie to him she loves him??? I would like to hear NH and SS fans excuse if Kishi does redo the confession. If she really lie to Naruto then there's no way she will have the guts to tell him again she loves him.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Mar 10 2013, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do anyone consider Sasuke attack Karin is the same as Naruto(Kyuubi 4 tail) attack Sakura, we found out that Mangekyou can influence the user to become more darker. maybe when Sasuke and Karin meet again, Sasuke might have some regret what he done to her.

Nice thought. I definitely got me thinking, but my answer is no.

Naruto was completely unconscious while when he attacked Sakura. He was in control of another being at time. Sasuke was not.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 10 2013, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good thing. I just want to the idea behind of making Karin as an Uzumaki, let alone not yet reunited. It just feels very suspicious as in we are falling for a trap by Kishi. If she does goes back to the team, I want to know how and why. When it comes reuniting, she's the most interesting one.

I feel too like that in some upcoming chapters, there's some traps in these kind of things. He likes to surprise the readers sometimes. It's like walking in a mine field XD

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Mar 10 2013, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice thought. I definitely got me thinking, but my answer is no.

Naruto was completely unconscious while when he attacked Sakura. He was in control of another being at time. Sasuke was not.

Agreed. Naruto was in complete shock when he learned that he hurt Sakura. Sasuke is just happy to kill one after another. It's all for his brother. Karin is made to be a sacrifice, especially since once she became a hostage, no point of trying to save her if your only goal is to kill a man, who's right there in your face.

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 10 2013, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel too like that in some upcoming chapters, there's some traps in these kind of things. He likes to surprise the readers sometimes. It's like walking in a mine field XD

Yeah, that's how I feel. The only question is when.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Mar 10 2013, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Sasuke plans were to kill team 7 and the rest of kohona after the truth of Itachi, so he was gonna kill Sakura no matter what happens. Plus, Sasuke did not had his sharingan activated while trying to kill Sakura but he did for Karin.

sorry didn't see your response wink.gif
Well to me that doesn't really make any difference. Killing is killing. And although sasuke was a bit darker he was still conscious to what he was doing. And what you said acually makes it even worse, because sasuke wanted to kill them all for a reason ( whether we think it's good enough or not) but when it came to karin he just threw her away like some broken doll simply because he didn't need her anymore; not when she was a hostage.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Mar 10 2013, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This^ to the last paragraph. Exactly it's simple logic back at 459 she promised herself not to make another mistake. So lying to Naruto that she loves him will be a big mistake, hmm...She said she doesn't want to make another mistake right why lie to him she loves him??? I would like to hear NH and SS fans excuse if Kishi does redo the confession. If she really lie to Naruto then there's no way she will have the guts to tell him again she loves him.


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What lying to him it's doing a mistake? She tried to give herself to Naruto, and she knew due to her feelings she was capable of loving him but she knew Naruto would reject.
Then she tried to convince Naruto with her second honest confession but Naruto didnt accept he already made up his mind.
Then she tried to go and kill Sasuke.

Even if she says that she's capable of doing something we all know she's not, she's not someome who can logically do somethinghe, Sakura was under big emotional pressure, even Sai states that he pushed her into her current state, you two talk like Sakura is someome like Shikamaru who can do things logically.
No one knew she would confess not even Sai, she surprised everyone with the confession when everyone thought she was going to tell Naruto the truth.
She even states later that she did another mistake that she couldw do nothing and then leave the situation to Naruto and hopes for an happy ending to everyone.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

I just thought of an interesting idea.

Let's see if we can list all the unresolved issues related to NaruSaku and take them all into consideration making a theory about how NaruSaku will become cannon.

1. Sakura's confession.
2. Sakura's love for Sasuke
3. promise of a lifetime
these are the first 3 that come into my head, and with this in consideration it seems imposible for narusaku to have any further development not involving Sasuke. anyone ready for a team 7 arc? I think it'll be interesting

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 10 2013, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just thought of an interesting idea.

Let's see if we can list all the unresolved issues related to NaruSaku and take them all into consideration making a theory about how NaruSaku will become cannon.

1. Sakura's confession.
2. Sakura's love for Sasuke
3. promise of a lifetime
these are the first 3 that come into my head, and with this in consideration it seems imposible for narusaku to have any further development not involving Sasuke. anyone ready for a team 7 arc? I think it'll be interesting

I would add the "Both of us will die" comment in there as well. Even the game acknowledges that the comment troubles her, let alone that he's not letting anyone know as if to say he won't tell them ever if you get what I mean. Up to you to think if it's valid.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 10 2013, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would add the "Both of us will die" comment in there as well. Even the game acknowledges that the comment troubles her, let alone that he's not letting anyone know as if to say he won't tell them ever if you get what I mean. Up to you to think if it's valid.

that comment just adds to the theory that sasuke has to be involved.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 10 2013, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just thought of an interesting idea.

Let's see if we can list all the unresolved issues related to NaruSaku and take them all into consideration making a theory about how NaruSaku will become cannon.

1. Sakura's confession.
2. Sakura's love for Sasuke
3. promise of a lifetime
these are the first 3 that come into my head, and with this in consideration it seems imposible for narusaku to have any further development not involving Sasuke. anyone ready for a team 7 arc? I think it'll be interesting

Naruto promising to die if he fights Sasuke and the bench scene are two things I will consider, I would feel cheated if Kishi does not allow Sakura to asking him about dying against Sasuke,and after Kushina flashback I will feel very disappointed if Sakura does not know that it was Naruto who read her thought and the only man that has ever complimented on the most hated part of her body just like Kushina and her hair.




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