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[Tsubaki]

I was wondering what kind of image SS will pass if it becomes canon?! I mean, Kishi has been portraying this pairing so badly during the entire manga:

- The way that Sakura was never herself around Sasuke.(this was the reason for the existence of the Inner Sakura and also why she had "gone" in Part 2)

- Sasuke cared about her when he was part of Team 7, but that never stopped him from treats her very badly, even at times when she was just trying to help him.

- The love she felt for Sasuke has always been portrayed as "selfish", according to some people here, even Kishi himself stated this, her confession is the best example of it. she was willing to leave her friends, her family and even betray her village because of the love she felt for him.

note: I remember when I read that chapter, I realized that her confession wasn't "right", leave everything behind and even say that would help in his revenge wasn't something that should be added to her confession if you wanted to portray a good love with it, I would like to emphasize that at this time, I was SS shipper so ...

- In this relationship the Sakura has always been portrayed as submissive and not as a equal to him.

In Part 2 things got worse:

- Her love for Sasuke always brought her down and bringing the worst of her character.

- They had practically no development in Part 2, unless you count the times that Sakura become depressed because of him and the Murder attempts as development ...

- As I said above, the 3 times they met during the entire part 2 he tried to kill her without thinking twice.

- Sasuke has forgot that Sakura exists during the entire Part 2, if he has feelings for her, give him an award, he is the best at hiding it.

- This would completely destroy Sakura's character, I mean, out of all the people who have shown affection for Sasuke .. Ino would be able to overcome her love for him, karin would put her pride in first place and let him go but Sakura would accept him back?! She was the person who suffered the most because of him but she would be the one that would end up with him? She as the heroine of the series shouldn't be the example? What kind of message Kishi would pass to the youngsters that read Naruto with it?! That even if someone only make you suffer and don't bring anything good you should keeping loving him no matter what? Shouldn't it be the opposite?! Sakura should be the example of overcoming, that you shouldn't get stuck in a love that only brings you sadness, That the true love is the one that makes you happy and brings the best of you and just because your first love didn't work out, it doesn't mean you can't love again.


I know that SS is probably the pairing with the lowest chance of happening, but sometimes I get afraid of it may happen because seriously... it would be so bad.

Edited by Tsubaki, 10 March 2013 - 06:29 AM.

[Baguette]

I know that SS is probably the pairing with the lowest chance of happening, but sometimes I get afraid of it may happen because seriously... it would be so bad.

If NaruHina happens, then we'd probably get a two-for-one and have SasuSaku happen at the same time.
Then everybody's happy. Yay.

[AzureWaters]

I was wondering what kind of image SS will pass if it becomes canon?! I mean, Kishi has been portraying this pairing so badly during the entire manga:

- The way that Sakura was never herself around Sasuke.(this was the reason for the existence of the Inner Sakura and also why she had "gone" in Part 2)

- Sasuke cared about her when he was part of Team 7, but that never stopped him from treats her very badly, even at times when she was just trying to help him.

- The love she felt for Sasuke has always been portrayed as "selfish", according to some people here, even Kishi himself stated this, her confession is the best example of it. she was willing to leave her friends, her family and even betray her village because of the love she felt for him.

note: I remember when I read that chapter, I realized that her confession wasn't "right", leave everything behind and even say that would help in his revenge wasn't something that should be added to her confession if you wanted to portray a good love with it, I would like to emphasize that at this time, I was SS shipper so ...

- In this relationship the Sakura has always been portrayed as submissive and not as a equal to him.

In Part 2 things got worse:

- Her love for Sasuke always brought her down and bringing the worst of her character.

- They had practically no development in Part 2, unless you count the times that Sakura become depressed because of him and the Murder attempts as development ...

- As I said above, the 3 times they met during the entire part 2 he tried to kill her without thinking twice.

- Sasuke has forgot that Sakura exists during the entire Part 2, if he has feelings for her, give him an award, he is the best at hiding it.

- This would completely destroy Sakura's character, I mean, out of all the people who have shown affection for Sasuke .. Ino would be able to overcome her love for him, karin would put her pride in first place and let him go but Sakura would accept him back?! She was the person who suffered the most because of him but she would be the one that would end up with him? She as the heroine of the series shouldn't be the example? What kind of message Kishi would pass to the youngsters that read Naruto with it?! That even if someone only make you suffer and don't bring anything good you should keeping loving him no matter what? Shouldn't it be the opposite?! Sakura should be the example of overcoming, that you shouldn't get stuck in a love that only brings you sadness, That the true love is the one that makes you happy and brings the best of you and just because your first love didn't work out, it doesn't mean you can't love again.


I know that SS is probably the pairing with the lowest chance of happening, but sometimes I get afraid of it may happen because seriously... it would be so bad.

*If* SS were to happen I'm sure Kishimoto would come up with a moment or two that would sort of redeem Sasuke's attitude towards Sakura. It may even be nicely done at the time. However it doesn't take away from what SasuSaku has been for the majority of part 2, so unless he really puts an effort into making the audience sympathetic to the pairing, it will come off as half assed or forced.

And I think SasuSaku would have a likely chance of happening if NH was a sure thing, since then it would be either Sasuke for Sakura or nothing. Then again he could just leave her by herself, but I find that unlikely for the heroine. She'll be hooked up with someone by the end, at any rate.

[FrenchMyToast]

I don't even see SS as a threat anymore, really. Not trying to sound overconfident or anything, but A LOT would have to happen IMO for it to be canon and seem somewhat believable. For it to happen Sasuke would need to get redeemed and then suddenly have romantic feelings for Sakura. Like maybe if he even once returned Sakura's feelings then maybe I could accept it a bit more, but no, he never did. But yeah, I think Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are more of a hurdle she has to overcome to grow as a character at this point. It's clear she is not happy with her feelings, so moving on seems possible. I don't really see that in Naruto's case in his love for Sakura, or even in Hinata's case for her love for Naruto. As weird as it sounds, SS actually gets my NS hopes up.

Sakura disliking her love for Sasuke + Possible feelings for Naruto = NaruSaku?

At least that's how I see it.

[Canadian_DJ]

Just when I was about to kick butt in Halo 4. I got time to respond. Need music playing and...here we go.

Couple of things:

Yes, Naruto does think he thinks that Hinata is strong, but here's the problem: he says that to many others. When it comes to Sakura, he is emotionally impressed. It happened twice in part 2 and you can tell how much he felt. Heck, the anime version pretty much nailed it. He is so impressed, it makes him feel so much love. It's special because this is the girl that he loves deeply. Honestly, there's no way, no how you can change his feelings. Once it's determined, it will never leave. Anyway, Hinata's support is never really standalone support, rather it has its own support. For example, he felt a little worried that he's going to fight Neji. She gave him a pep talk and he felt good. The thing is that it's about loser being overwatched. Rock Lee was part of it, so it's not about Hinata, rather about the group of "losers" being judged harshly. The latest pep talk is all thanks to Neji, Hinata, and Kuruma. It's not her only. That talk is about connection with his friends.

Here's the problem. When they talked, it's never really about them personally, rather it's about the theme they have in the current situation. Part 1 is about loser rising to the top and in here, it's about connections. When was the last time they talked normally to each other as friends? Naruto and Sakura have done it countless times, especially like the one when they met up in the library. Hinata is not really made to be Naruto's lover, rather to portray her character as a person who needed a confidence and watch her idol (Naruto) to make her strong. Naruto, when it comes to his friends alas side characters, are really input by Kishi to get developments for themselves, not changing Naruto to make them new best friend or lover. I'm not calling them fillers, but they are their own characters and they don't really involve with Naruto as a person. That's all for main characters' tasks. Naruto's important bonds is where Naruto, as a person, really develops as a character as well as his relationships. Granted, he does get development without them, but it's only to himself, not making relationship deeper. Tell me, do we ever see Naruto say something that Shikamaru is his best friend or even reconsider? No. In fact, at times, side characters' developments don't really effect the series. Hinata's confession anyone? Can they help Naruto? Yes. Can they replace his heart? No. Again, it all happens within the main characters.
Kishi has said that he knows the main plot points, but the hard task is to get there.

Lastly, the rejection. Has anyone ever considered two things: Hinata just fades away or she will be the one to understand in which she will stop chasing him, thanking him for helping her feel strong. Why on earth Naruto must accept her or even answer her. First of all, she confessed, but it's not like she expected anything in return. Otherwise, shouldn't Hinata do the hugging? There's no excuse on why Sakura is the one to hug Naruto. No excuse at all. If you find one, I can burn it down. Let's not forget that Naruto don't even recall her confession anymore. It's as if that the confession was the bonus from Kishi to please the fans. Not even Hinata thought about it again. Another problem is that Naruto still shows no love for Hinata, rather respect. Isn't that good enough? She is about being inspired by her hero and making progress. Yes, the hand holding happened, but why not get like a special treat for herself. It's like I want to challenge my hero in a contest and show him how good I am, only to get a pat in the back. I would like that. Heck, not even Kiba's comment helps because it has two suggestions and so far, well it's not helping love department.

To end all of this, this is my last message to NH fans, especially over the top fans. You guys claimed that Hinata has made Naruto changed his feelings. You claimed that Naruto no longer loves Sakura after the confession. You claimed Naruto and Hinata are now lovers in the battlefield. That all said, you do know how much jeopardy you placed yourself. My warning: if there's one NaruSaku moment, even if it's small, even if it comes from Obito making them parallel confirm, whether it comes from Naruto and Sakura,....game over. I'm dead serious. You guys really make Naruto the character pathetic for the last time and I can't see it anymore. One moment will end NH and head to the final battle: SS. It's that simple. You should all worry that Sakura hasn't make a move yet in the battlefield, which ironically same goes to Sai. I wonder why. Let's not forget that there's that concern for Naruto's last words to Sasuke, which will return once Naruto vs. Sasuke arrives. That said pray. Pray that Sakura gets killed off-screen, pray that Naruto goes 100% OoC, pray before everything will hit you back harder than the hug. Message ends.

^^
And this my friend is why I call you a BOSS! I've always admired yours, and james' s, gravenimage and chatte's posts, and so many others its that you guys just always seem to hit the nail perfectly, kudos for such an amazing post!!!

And for those of you who say sakuras confession was fake, NO, kishi HiMSELF SAID THAT SAKURA WAS BEING HONEST WITH A SUPRISINGLY STUBBORN DETERMINATION SO STOP CALLING IT FAKE SHE LOVES HIM. (Im not mad and im not directing this to anyone, this is just a reminder)

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

*If* SS were to happen I'm sure Kishimoto would come up with a moment or two that would sort of redeem Sasuke's attitude towards Sakura. It may even be nicely done at the time. However it doesn't take away from what SasuSaku has been for the majority of part 2, so unless he really puts an effort into making the audience sympathetic to the pairing, it will come off as half assed or forced.

And I think SasuSaku would have a likely chance of happening if NH was a sure thing, since then it would be either Sasuke for Sakura or nothing. Then again he could just leave her by herself, but I find that unlikely for the heroine. She'll be hooked up with someone by the end, at any rate.

It does not redeem the fact that he tried to kill her, there's no things that make Sasuke get with Sakura without being forced like "i feel sorry for you Sakura" then let her be his wife because of pity.
Sasuke will never love Sakura he hasnt any feelings for her even on the confession when he said "thank you".
SS already lost it's sympathy since part 1.

And for those of you who say sakuras confession was fake, NO, kishi HiMSELF SAID THAT SAKURA WAS BEING HONEST WITH A SUPRISINGLY STUBBORN DETERMINATION SO STOP CALLING IT FAKE SHE LOVES HIM. (Im not mad and im not directing this to anyone, this is just a reminder)

She lied, quickly after he says that she still ... Sasuke, then how cna he say that she was 100% honest when on the same interview he confirms that.
My opinion is the part that she was Honest was that page that me and other users posted, she now knows who is Naruto to her, and after this make SS start looking bad for her and for the audience, because if Naruto was the responsible for all the good things to her, then what's left for Sasuke?, on all the parts that Sakura thinks about Sasuke she didnt pointed out a single reason for loving him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 March 2013 - 10:25 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I can truthfully say without a single doubt in my mind that SasuSaku is the non-canon pairing Kishimoto takes the least seriously. I actually think he takes NaruHina more serious than SS, if that's possible. So it's part of the T7 and it's love triangle? Still doesn't change the fact that it's the most demolished and trolled couple in the series, forget NH.

Sasuke's character is not build for romance, it's been clarified over and over throughout the series. He couldn't care less about any of that romantic stuff, it's a distraction to him. There's always SK being possible, but come on. Right now it's pretty obvious he wouldn't grow romantic affection for Sakura, his "bond" with her is almost non-existent on his side. She was literally one of the first he stopped caring about, proving he was never really that close to her compared to Naruto and Kakashi. But he did care for her once, I can see that. But it was never enough to put her before himself, it was always his own selfish ambitions and moods that he deemed more important. At least with Naruto he demonstrated some scarce moments of selflessness, Sasuke never did that for Sakura. Given is naturally selfish character, even one moment of selflessness from him means a lot.

Though rewatching Part 1 of Naruto, I realize that SS was not an entirely terrible coupling. Sasuke never did anything particularly nice for her frequently, but he wasn't exactly that mean to her either. Basically, he mostly showed indifference with other rather than annoyance. Though he did put her down and hurt her self-esteem a few times, it can't be disregarded. It's when Part 2 happened that it lost any shred of decency or appeal IMO, especially since Sasuke has tried to kill her 2 times. I don't understand why it still has fans and sometimes feel like facepalming because of it but being a NaruSaku fan, I don't expect me to understand. After all, I hate SasuSaku and view it as the disgrace of the Big 3.

Don't even get me started on Sakura. Her love for him makes no sense, it never really has. She didn't have a good reason feeling the way she did and still doesn't. Even in her selfish confession, she didn't explain why. Which brings me to that. It really showed her unbelievably selfish her love for Sasuke is. She claimed she could give him happiness and help him with his revenge, acting like she was entitled to him or something; I know she was desperate, but she wasn't thinking of Sasuke's feelings. Can you picture Sakura telling Naruto she could give him happiness? No, because she feels undeserving of him. Her love for Naruto is selfless, her love for Sasuke is not. And when she said that losing Sasuke while she still has friends and family is worse than being alone, all I could think of is: " ... Why? He really never did anything for you, not like Naruto and Ino. Especially your parents." The fact that she was willing to leave her home made me furious with her on some level. What about Naruto? How would he feel if he lost both teammates? Did he really mean that little to her compared to Sasuke?

I just feel really bad for Naruto when I see that scene. Sakura really makes it seem like he means nothing to her compared to Sasuke. Noted, it's not like that anymore and it's switched around in Part 2, but still! That's so terrible ... especially since he went out of his way to cheer her up and protect her while Sasuke was indifferent. I always feel so relieved that Naruto had never witnessed her confession to Sasuke, it would hurt him so much. Even the pain of the promise would pale in comparision.

SasuSaku is dead to me, I don't care if Sakura still loves him. He will never like her like that and her affections will never go anywhere. Given how he's her weakness, I do not see her still being in love with him at the end of the series. It just seems like Kishimoto goes out of his way to show us SS is in it's coffin, even in Road to Ninja. It's like SasuSaku is destined for failure, from big things like murder attempts to small things like Sakura making sweets for him in Part 1 (Sasuke hates sweets).

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 10 March 2013 - 11:47 AM.

[Canadian_DJ]

This has always been my favorite Shippuden ending.
Sannin, Team Seven, and NaruSaku?
Hell yeah.

Hey I cant see it can you put a link for this one? And the naruto ending "for you" I looked for it couldn't find it, would really 'preciate if you put the link, thanks!

[StrikerTheNoble]

I can truthfully say without a single doubt in my mind that SasuSaku is the non-canon pairing Kishimoto takes the least seriously. I actually think he takes NaruHina more serious than SS, if that's possible. So it's part of the T7 and it's love triangle? Still doesn't change the fact that it's the most demolished and trolled couple in the series, forget NH.

Sasuke's character is not build for romance, it's been clarified over and over throughout the series. He couldn't care less about any of that romantic stuff, it's a distraction to him. There's always SK being possible, but come on. Right now it's pretty obvious he wouldn't grow romantic affection for Sakura, his "bond" with her is almost non-existent on his side. She was literally one of the first he stopped caring about, proving he was never really that close to her compared to Naruto and Kakashi. But he did care for her once, I can see that. But it was never enough to put her before himself, it was always his own selfish ambitions and moods that he deemed more important. At least with Naruto he demonstrated some scarce moments of selflessness, Sasuke never did that for Sakura. Given is naturally selfish character, even one moment of selflessness from him means a lot.

Though rewatching Part 1 of Naruto, I realize that SS was not an entirely terrible coupling. Sasuke never did anything particularly nice for her frequently, but he wasn't exactly that mean to her either. Basically, he mostly showed indifference with other rather than annoyance. Though he did put her down and hurt her self-esteem a few times, it can't be disregarded. It's when Part 2 happened that it lost any shred of decency or appeal IMO, especially since Sasuke has tried to kill her 2 times. I don't understand why it still has fans and sometimes feel like facepalming because of it but being a NaruSaku fan, I don't expect me to understand. After all, I hate SasuSaku and view it as the disgrace of the Big 3.

Don't even get me started on Sakura. Her love for him makes no sense, it never really has. She didn't have a good reason feeling the way she did and still doesn't. Even in her selfish confession, she didn't explain why. Which brings me to that. It really showed her unbelievably selfish her love for Sasuke is. She claimed she could give him happiness and help him with his revenge, acting like she was entitled to him or something; I know she was desperate, but she wasn't thinking of Sasuke's feelings. Can you picture Sakura telling Naruto she could give him happiness? No, because she feels undeserving of him. Her love for Naruto is selfless, her love for Sasuke is not. And when she said that losing Sasuke while she still has friends and family is worse than being alone, all I could think of is: " ... Why? He really never did anything for you, not like Naruto and Ino. Especially your parents." The fact that she was willing to leave her home made me furious with her on some level. What about Naruto? How would he feel if he lost both teammates? Did he really mean that little to her compared to Sasuke?

I just feel really bad for Naruto when I see that scene. Sakura really makes it seem like he means nothing to her compared to Sasuke. Noted, it's not like that anymore and it's switched around in Part 2, but still! That's so terrible ... especially since he went out of his way to cheer her up and protect her while Sasuke was indifferent. I always feel so relieved that Naruto had never witnessed her confession to Sasuke, it would hurt him so much. Even the pain of the promise would pale in comparision.

SasuSaku is dead to me, I don't care if Sakura still loves him. He will never like her like that and her affections will never go anywhere. Given how he's her weakness, I do not see her still being in love with him at the end of the series. It just seems like Kishimoto goes out of his way to show us SS is in it's coffin, even in Road to Ninja. It's like SasuSaku is destined for failure, from big things like murder attempts to small things like Sakura making sweets for him in Part 1 (Sasuke hates sweets).

wow. You really dont like SS do you? Anyway great post and yea. If Naruto saw the confession his heart would completly shatter.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I can truthfully say without a single doubt in my mind that SasuSaku is the non-canon pairing Kishimoto takes the least seriously. I actually think he takes NaruHina more serious than SS, if that's possible. So it's part of the T7 and it's love triangle? Still doesn't change the fact that it's the most demolished and trolled couple in the series, forget NH.

Sasuke's character is not build for romance, it's been clarified over and over throughout the series. He couldn't care less about any of that romantic stuff, it's a distraction to him. There's always SK being possible, but come on. Right now it's pretty obvious he wouldn't grow romantic affection for Sakura, his "bond" with her is almost non-existent on his side. She was literally one of the first he stopped caring about, proving he was never really that close to her compared to Naruto and Kakashi. But he did care for her once, I can see that. But it was never enough to put her before himself, it was always his own selfish ambitions and moods that he deemed more important. At least with Naruto he demonstrated some scarce moments of selflessness, Sasuke never did that for Sakura. Given is naturally selfish character, even one moment of selflessness from him means a lot.

Though rewatching Part 1 of Naruto, I realize that SS was not an entirely terrible coupling. Sasuke never did anything particularly nice for her frequently, but he wasn't exactly that mean to her either. Basically, he mostly showed indifference with other rather than annoyance. Though he did put her down and hurt her self-esteem a few times, it can't be disregarded. It's when Part 2 happened that it lost any shred of decency or appeal IMO, especially since Sasuke has tried to kill her 2 times. I don't understand why it still has fans and sometimes feel like facepalming because of it but being a NaruSaku fan, I don't expect me to understand. After all, I hate SasuSaku and view it as the disgrace of the Big 3.

Don't even get me started on Sakura. Her love for him makes no sense, it never really has. She didn't have a good reason feeling the way she did and still doesn't. Even in her selfish confession, she didn't explain why. Which brings me to that. It really showed her unbelievably selfish her love for Sasuke is. She claimed she could give him happiness and help him with his revenge, acting like she was entitled to him or something; I know she was desperate, but she wasn't thinking of Sasuke's feelings. Can you picture Sakura telling Naruto she could give him happiness? No, because she feels undeserving of him. Her love for Naruto is selfless, her love for Sasuke is not. And when she said that losing Sasuke while she still has friends and family is worse than being alone, all I could think of is: " ... Why? He really never did anything for you, not like Naruto and Ino. Especially your parents." The fact that she was willing to leave her home made me furious with her on some level. What about Naruto? How would he feel if he lost both teammates? Did he really mean that little to her compared to Sasuke?

I just feel really bad for Naruto when I see that scene. Sakura really makes it seem like he means nothing to her compared to Sasuke. Noted, it's not like that anymore and it's switched around in Part 2, but still! That's so terrible ... especially since he went out of his way to cheer her up and protect her while Sasuke was indifferent. I always feel so relieved that Naruto had never witnessed her confession to Sasuke, it would hurt him so much. Even the pain of the promise would pale in comparision.

SasuSaku is dead to me, I don't care if Sakura still loves him. He will never like her like that and her affections will never go anywhere. Given how he's her weakness, I do not see her still being in love with him at the end of the series. It just seems like Kishimoto goes out of his way to show us SS is in it's coffin, even in Road to Ninja. It's like SasuSaku is destined for failure, from big things like murder attempts to small things like Sakura making sweets for him in Part 1 (Sasuke hates sweets).

This is one of the reasons why i disliked Sakura and i thought that NS would never had a chance.

Part 1 impression is that Naruto didnt deserved to be in love with such selfish girl like Sakura on part 1, Sakura just said i love you Sasuke but didnt pointed out a single reason for loving him other than "i love you".

Funny fact it that roles reversed, NS was so bad on part 1 that you can easily compare it to SS nowadays.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 March 2013 - 12:00 PM.

[Don-kun]

I always wondered about that, she looked completely genuine during that part. I don't believe Sakura knew him loved him there, I really don't. She's still confused and forced herself to do that because of the situation that she was in. But the anger she showed supports unconscious feelings and how she hates him telling her how she feels when he's not aware of the conflict she's been going through. That's what I believe.

Though if it's not that, then it's either Sakura assumed she loved Naruto too early and after he told her she didn't feel that way, she went back to her inner confusion. If that's really what happened, then wow. It's ironic to me that he loves Sakura and wants to be with her yet screws himself over and only makes things harder on himself. The Bench Scene and how he supports SS (painfully) comes to mind.

Sakura is no longer confuse about her feelings for Naruto, I know many say this because of chapter 540 while hopping for an event that will finally clear her mind in a way that she will clearly see that Naruto was always the man she loves, the thing is Sakura at this time feels an attraction towards Naruto and he is the one who genuinely makes her feel safe and appreciated but the problems are:

-Sakura knows Hinata likes Naruto.

-Despite Naruto loving her He always trays to encourage her love for Sasuke while asking her to keep believing in him so I'm sure many girl feels disappointed and turn off towards a guy when they try to show the smallest of affection towards the guy but the guy keeps reminding her about her past love.

-They are forced to constantly think or talk about Sasuke.

-And lastly Sakura does not feel deserving of Naruto's love, many will say why does she feel that Sasuke deserve her love, the thing here is that Sakura didn't felt like that anymore after Sai's revelation but Naruto restore that faith again, in other words Sakura believes in Naruto who believes in Sasuke, but even 540 shows up that dispute her believing in Naruto she need to face reality at some point, the biggest example will be Sakura disagree with the lover nin while picturing Sasuke for the 1st time as who he really is.

I believe there are to many evidence in the Manga that shows that Sakura unintentionally displaying what she feels for Naruto is almost like the outside Sakura wants to keep with the same mentality but the inside Sakura is asking her to open her eyes something she has started doing for a good while but always ends up getting blinded by Naruto's faith again.

I don't know but I feel that Sakura will have a role with Naruto instead of herself, I seriously believe Sakura will TNJ Naruto about Sasuke at some point, if this doesn't happen then is clear that Kishi wants Sasuke to be a victim and at the end of the Manga everyone most forgive him and forget.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sakura is no longer confuse about her feelings for Naruto, I know many say this because of chapter 540 while hopping for an event that will finally clear her mind in a way that she will clearly see that Naruto was always the man she loves, the thing is Sakura at this time feels an attraction towards Naruto and he is the one who genuinely makes her feel safe and appreciated but the problems are:

-Sakura knows Hinata likes Naruto.

-Despite Naruto loving her He always trays to encourage her love for Sasuke while asking her to keep believing in him so I'm sure many girl feels disappointed and turn off towards a guy when they try to show the smallest of affection towards the guy but the guy keeps reminding her about her past love.

-They are forced to constantly think or talk about Sasuke.

-And lastly Sakura does not feel deserving of Naruto's love, many will say why does she feel that Sasuke deserve her love, the thing here is that Sakura didn't felt like that anymore after Sai's revelation but Naruto restore that faith again, in other words Sakura believes in Naruto who believes in Sasuke, but even 540 shows up that dispute her believing in Naruto she need to face reality at some point, the biggest example will be Sakura disagree with the lover nin while picturing Sasuke for the 1st time as who he really is.

I believe there are to many evidence in the Manga that shows that Sakura unintentionally displaying what she feels for Naruto is almost like the outside Sakura wants to keep with the same mentality but the inside Sakura is asking her to open her eyes something she has started doing for a good while but always ends up getting blinded by Naruto's faith again.

I don't know but I feel that Sakura will have a role with Naruto instead of herself, I seriously believe Sakura will TNJ Naruto about Sasuke at some point, if this doesn't happen then is clear that Kishi wants Sasuke to be a victim and at the end of the Manga everyone most forgive him and forget.

She's not but she does not love Naruto yet, it's not those reasons that will make her fall for Naruto she has to resolver her feelings for Sasuke first and it's apparently she's resolving it, but one thing is certain whit her actual feelings are enough to give a chance to Naruto but it's not love yet it's close to it(Kishimoto's words).



It's not relevant since she did the confession anyway.
Naruto also knows that Hinata loves him and he's still oblivious.
Naruto knows that Sakura loves Sasuke still he was planning to confess.
I dont know why turn this on a big deal.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 March 2013 - 01:30 PM.

[Don-kun]

She's not but she does not love Naruto yet, it's not those reasons that will make her fall for Naruto she has to resolver her feelings for Sasuke first and it's apparently she's resolving it, but one thing is certain whit her actual feelings are enough to give a chance to Naruto but it's not love yet it's close to it(Kishimoto's words).

I completely agree with this I feel there is a strong affection enough to start a relationship, but with Sasuke in the romantic aspect he is the one who Sakura felt attractive in every way since she was 6 years old, in other words she lived to be Sasuke's wife, with Naruto is something she starting to discover and develop, something she isn't afraid or confuse about since she didn't hesitate to hug him in public, confess or feed him food something she would of never done in the past, but in order for her to keep going forward with these feelings she need Naruto's help something she isn't gating at this time since he strongly believes that she can only love Sasuke. Naruto you BAKA.

It's not relevant since she did the confession anyway.
Naruto also knows that Hinata loves him and he's still oblivious.
Naruto knows that Sakura loves Sasuke still he was planning to confess.
I dont know why turn this on a big deal.

If that's your opinion then I respect that, but I strongly believe in what I just posted.

Edited by Don-kun, 10 March 2013 - 01:47 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

-Despite Naruto loving her He always trays to encourage her love for Sasuke while asking her to keep believing in him so I'm sure many girl feels disappointed and turn off towards a guy when they try to show the smallest of affection towards the guy but the guy keeps reminding her about her past love.

-They are forced to constantly think or talk about Sasuke.

-And lastly Sakura does not feel deserving of Naruto's love, many will say why does she feel that Sasuke deserve her love, the thing here is that Sakura didn't felt like that anymore after Sai's revelation but Naruto restore that faith again, in other words Sakura believes in Naruto who believes in Sasuke, but even 540 shows up that dispute her believing in Naruto she need to face reality at some point, the biggest example will be Sakura disagree with the lover nin while picturing Sasuke for the 1st time as who he really is.

I believe there are to many evidence in the Manga that shows that Sakura unintentionally displaying what she feels for Naruto is almost like the outside Sakura wants to keep with the same mentality but the inside Sakura is asking her to open her eyes something she has started doing for a good while but always ends up getting blinded by Naruto's faith again.

Agreed.
Just as my last post i'm going to say that Sakura as a weak will when it comes to what she really want i think she hasnt found an answer yet.
Naruto can't be the guy who has to tell her what she have to feel, what she has to think better she comes to realize what she really wants soon.

If that's your opinion then I respect that, but I strongly believe in what I just posted.

Looks like we have just to agree to disagree then, you say that Sakura knows that Hinata loves Naruto but does not make any claim of why you think that it's an obstacle for NaruSaku, there's no evidence to support this claim and also you just said "i strongly believe on this".

I just think that this mentality is also similar to why Naruto moved on from Sakura to Hinata.

Just sayan.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 March 2013 - 01:46 PM.

[AzureWaters]

I can truthfully say without a single doubt in my mind that SasuSaku is the non-canon pairing Kishimoto takes the least seriously. I actually think he takes NaruHina more serious than SS, if that's possible. So it's part of the T7 and it's love triangle? Still doesn't change the fact that it's the most demolished and trolled couple in the series, forget NH.

Sasuke's character is not build for romance, it's been clarified over and over throughout the series. He couldn't care less about any of that romantic stuff, it's a distraction to him. There's always SK being possible, but come on. Right now it's pretty obvious he wouldn't grow romantic affection for Sakura, his "bond" with her is almost non-existent on his side. She was literally one of the first he stopped caring about, proving he was never really that close to her compared to Naruto and Kakashi. But he did care for her once, I can see that. But it was never enough to put her before himself, it was always his own selfish ambitions and moods that he deemed more important. At least with Naruto he demonstrated some scarce moments of selflessness, Sasuke never did that for Sakura. Given is naturally selfish character, even one moment of selflessness from him means a lot.

Though rewatching Part 1 of Naruto, I realize that SS was not an entirely terrible coupling. Sasuke never did anything particularly nice for her frequently, but he wasn't exactly that mean to her either. Basically, he mostly showed indifference with other rather than annoyance. Though he did put her down and hurt her self-esteem a few times, it can't be disregarded. It's when Part 2 happened that it lost any shred of decency or appeal IMO, especially since Sasuke has tried to kill her 2 times. I don't understand why it still has fans and sometimes feel like facepalming because of it but being a NaruSaku fan, I don't expect me to understand. After all, I hate SasuSaku and view it as the disgrace of the Big 3.

Don't even get me started on Sakura. Her love for him makes no sense, it never really has. She didn't have a good reason feeling the way she did and still doesn't. Even in her selfish confession, she didn't explain why. Which brings me to that. It really showed her unbelievably selfish her love for Sasuke is. She claimed she could give him happiness and help him with his revenge, acting like she was entitled to him or something; I know she was desperate, but she wasn't thinking of Sasuke's feelings. Can you picture Sakura telling Naruto she could give him happiness? No, because she feels undeserving of him. Her love for Naruto is selfless, her love for Sasuke is not. And when she said that losing Sasuke while she still has friends and family is worse than being alone, all I could think of is: " ... Why? He really never did anything for you, not like Naruto and Ino. Especially your parents." The fact that she was willing to leave her home made me furious with her on some level. What about Naruto? How would he feel if he lost both teammates? Did he really mean that little to her compared to Sasuke?

I just feel really bad for Naruto when I see that scene. Sakura really makes it seem like he means nothing to her compared to Sasuke. Noted, it's not like that anymore and it's switched around in Part 2, but still! That's so terrible ... especially since he went out of his way to cheer her up and protect her while Sasuke was indifferent. I always feel so relieved that Naruto had never witnessed her confession to Sasuke, it would hurt him so much. Even the pain of the promise would pale in comparision.

SasuSaku is dead to me, I don't care if Sakura still loves him. He will never like her like that and her affections will never go anywhere. Given how he's her weakness, I do not see her still being in love with him at the end of the series. It just seems like Kishimoto goes out of his way to show us SS is in it's coffin, even in Road to Ninja. It's like SasuSaku is destined for failure, from big things like murder attempts to small things like Sakura making sweets for him in Part 1 (Sasuke hates sweets).

I think people still view it as a possibility because Kishi still brings the pairing up. He hasn't ignored it like he could have, and has focused on Sakura -> Sasuke quite a few times.

I'm not sure how I feel about its chances. Like I said before I think that the mangaka could get away with it if he were to clarify NaruHina. Not because of sideshipping but because with Naruto not being an option in this scenario, Sakura's only other outcome would be Sasuke. I can't see her being alone after how much focus she's had in the romance plot. Essentially it really is either Naruto or Sasuke for her.

I agree that SasuSaku is negative, at least in Shippuden.

Of course if and when NS became the ending choice then SS wouldn't have a chance, and that goes for the other pairings as well besides maybe SK/SI.

Edited by AzureWaters, 10 March 2013 - 01:49 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think people still view it as a possibility because Kishi still brings the pairing up. He hasn't ignored it like he could have, and has focused on Sakura -> Sasuke quite a few time times.

I'm not sure how I feel about its chances. Like I said before I think that the mangaka could get away with it if he were to clarify NaruHina. Not because of sideshipping but because with Naruto not being an option in this scenario, Sakura's only other outcome would be Sasuke. I can't see her being alone after how much focus she's had in the romance plot. Essentially it really is either Naruto or Sasuke for her.

I agree that SasuSaku is negative, at least in Shippuden.

Of course if and when NS became the ending choice then SS wouldn't have a chance, and that goes for the other pairings as well besides maybe SK/SI.

I saw SS as being neutral neither positive or negative, the confession that Sakura did bashed her character and she deserved the "b*tch" title there, she actually betrayed Naruto and proved that Naruto was nothing to her, it's like he did a little build for SS and then destroyed it along with Sakura's character, then he started building NS, Shippuuden started showing more Sakura maybe because when Naruto part 1 ended Sakura was the most hated character for sure, and about shipping on part 1, all the pairing were bad aside from Shika/Tema.

When part 2 started it started with Sakura doing way more than she did on part 1, she was a real heroine and showing affection towards Naruto, it was like Kishimoto redeeming Sakura.
SS is on the level as how NS was when part 1 ended.
If kishimoto didnt wanted NS to happen he could make Naruto see that confession which would trigger the situation that Sakura is currently in, i think it's too late to undo all the bad stuff he did for SS thoughout the series, NS is not just the best pairing out of all but also the best for Sakura's character.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

^^
And this my friend is why I call you a BOSS! I've always admired yours, and james' s, gravenimage and chatte's posts, and so many others its that you guys just always seem to hit the nail perfectly, kudos for such an amazing post!!!

And for those of you who say sakuras confession was fake, NO, kishi HiMSELF SAID THAT SAKURA WAS BEING HONEST WITH A SUPRISINGLY STUBBORN DETERMINATION SO STOP CALLING IT FAKE SHE LOVES HIM. (Im not mad and im not directing this to anyone, this is just a reminder)

I agree with you ! I think that she was saying the truth when she said that she have new feelings for him. However , the part when she said that Sasuske meens nothing for her now is false. And its after that panel that Naruto start to be suspicious about Sakura.

[candycane-chan]

romancegirl Well, I always thought that people shipped sasusaku becuase of how angsty it is or because they liked it in part 1. The killing attempts? If naruto and sasuke could act like brothers again then sakura having a bond ( romantic or not ) with sasuke isn't impossible. She's in team 7 too afterall.

I don't think SS will happen either. mainly because of what you said about sasuke's character. I just can't see him ending up with any female character. He just doesn't seem that kind of guy, the kind to fall inlove.

I think people still view it as a possibility because Kishi still brings the pairing up. He hasn't ignored it like he could have, and has focused on Sakura -> Sasuke quite a few times.

I'm not sure how I feel about its chances. Like I said before I think that the mangaka could get away with it if he were to clarify NaruHina. Not because of sideshipping but because with Naruto not being an option in this scenario, Sakura's only other outcome would be Sasuke. I can't see her being alone after how much focus she's had in the romance plot. Essentially it really is either Naruto or Sasuke for her.
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Sakura's feelings weren't mentioned that much. And it doesn't help sasusaku anyway. I mean look at the latest chapters, Ino's feelings for sasuke were conformed even when we all know that inosasu will never happen. And lee's feelings are still the same for sakura but she'll never love him that way.

Edited by candycane-chan, 10 March 2013 - 03:42 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I don't want write too much for now, but I can say that Sasuke's character has always been about brotherhood and the fact they mentioned the mental issue, it's only building up that Naruto will truimph it. That's what Kishi pretty much doing for Sasuke: making it seem impossible for Naruto to save him. Sakura is a character who is like work in progress thoughout the series. Naruto is just passing and creating new pledge that he will soon pass.

I don't see SS happening without the magic of asspull. The reason is that many assume that Sakura's love for Sasuke was shoved as much as part 1. That's not true. The whole love part of her happened in the last arc while others were about Naruto, because Kishi probably wanted Team 7 to meet Sasuke and deal issue that they have themselves. Kakashi went through life lesson about a student can go back at his Sensei, so he must end him, Sakura has to see who Sasuke has become and fight off the old feelings, and Naruto is about everyone telling him that saving Sasuke is impossible as no one is on his side anymore. When you think about it, Sakura is reaching her closure in terms of mentally development, which is the last stage of relationship: love. Again, it felt like those romance story where everything was going great but then, the old love returns, causing the situation more difficult. That's how I see it because honestly, as Sakura does care about Sasuke, it's not mandatory for Sasuke to be there in order for her to smile. I guess if Sasuke does in fact becomes a wanderer, she wouldn't mind at all, especially now she knows that Sasuke is now good.

[Canadian_DJ]

It does not redeem the fact that he tried to kill her, there's no things that make Sasuke get with Sakura without being forced like "i feel sorry for you Sakura" then let her be his wife because of pity.
Sasuke will never love Sakura he hasnt any feelings for her even on the confession when he said "thank you".
SS already lost it's sympathy since part 1.


She lied, quickly after he says that she still ... Sasuke, then how cna he say that she was 100% honest when on the same interview he confirms that.
My opinion is the part that she was Honest was that page that me and other users posted, she now knows who is Naruto to her, and after this make SS start looking bad for her and for the audience, because if Naruto was the responsible for all the good things to her, then what's left for Sasuke?, on all the parts that Sakura thinks about Sasuke she didnt pointed out a single reason for loving him.

Wait wait, so lemme' get this straight, so your saying that sakura wasn't being honest about naruto being the one to make her safe, the one she loves, the idiot dummy that turned into a man before her eyes, the fact that sasuke is now a criminal and just keeps breaking her heart, that she doesn't wanna love someone like that, that naruto is causing himself danger because he's the junjuriki and she cares about him and wants him to be safe, your saying that all that was just a lie? That she wasn't being truthful? Well, if my memory serves right, everything I mentioned about sakura-chan's statements, have infact happened and are infact true.

But lemme' tell you what she might've been lying about, about her not caring about sasuke anymore, thats it.

And masashi kishimoto himself said in an interview and I quote, "I felt like depicting an honest girl with a surprisingly stubborn determination" <--- there ya go, he himself said sakura was honest, and if your still not buyin' it...well we're just gonna have to agree to dis-agree buddy

Oh and, in that interview where kishi says sakura loves sasuke, thats mistranslated, according to our fellow, nostradamus' s analysis, kishi didn't directly say that sakura loves sasuke, in fact on the contrary he said "considering sakuras speech sakura LOVED sasuke, aslo narutos close..." this is the true translation, and it fits perfectly with the context of the manga, I mean for pete's sake sakuras speech in that arc was about sasuke being a criminal and him breaking her heart, and her confessing her love to naruto, so when you connect the dots with the Interview it fits perfectly, but with the other mistranslated version, it totaly leads to a loop of contradiction!

Dont get me wrong im not a sasuke hater and trying to make him look bad, infact i really like his character and im not mad or anything, it just bugs me when people claim that sakura lied throughout her whole confession, and thus, the confession being called "fake confession" mmnnaah, thats just wrong considering what kishi himself said, that makes me as an individual happy to know that, and it makes me even happier when some people here have the same logic, im not gonna mention names, but you got the point.
Peace.

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 10 March 2013 - 04:07 PM.