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[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I wonder what would happen if Tetsuya Nomura was in charge of Naruto? He did a way better job of redeeming Riku more than Kishi did with Sasuke. 

[ultranx]

Anything New? Why are people attacking chatte again?

from what I read out of curiosity, apparently the ss fans are stupid, thinking chatte wrote the prologue of the sakura novel when its an actual translation and are trying to put the blame of it not making sense on her instead of the actual author of the novel  , and also getting mad at her comparing a character named grey  to sasuke.  

Edited by ultranx, 24 March 2015 - 05:07 AM.

[DeathGodMack]

from what I read out of curiosity, apparently the ss fans are stupid, thinking chatte wrote the prologue of the sakura novel when its an actual translation and are trying to put the blame of it not making sense on her instead of the actual author of the novel  , and also getting mad at her comparing a character named grey  to sasuke.  

What prologue?

[ultranx]

What prologue?

it was talked about a few pages back here

Edited by ultranx, 24 March 2015 - 05:09 AM.

[Codus N]

When would you say you gave up on the series and female characters handling?

 

I don't remember, but it's mainly either 631-632. Especially the poor development on Sakura's character. 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

 

Shadow, such a good post!! I swear, we should immortalize posts like this in their own hall of fame thread. There have been so many good ones since the end of the manga — posts just like this one that sum it all up so perfectly.

 

"YOU KNOW THE SERIES IS HORRIBLE IN EVERY SINGLE WAY WHEN AN ORPHAN BEATS HIS SON FOR LASHING OUT BC HIS FATHER NEVER SPENDS ANY TIME WITH HIM."

 

That's so freaking true.

 

 

I hear that! As well as trying to tell him to suck it up =/

[DeathGodMack]

So cute

!!

[redrose3443]

When would you say you gave up on the series and female characters handling?

 

In terms of females, it was when NaruSasu got a power up, that I was 99% sure females would always play 3rd rate to males. In every team, the female was always the weakest and I was hoping for that to change. But nope, in this series, it's a crime for a female to be equal to the male counterparts.

 

F U Kishi.

[rocci]

 
In terms of females, it was when NaruSasu got a power up, that I was 99% sure females would always play 3rd rate to males. In every team, the female was always the weakest and I was hoping for that to change. But nope, in this series, it's a crime for a female to be equal to the male counterparts.
 
F U Kishi.

In term of power, sakura will never equal with them.

[Atheck]

 

In terms of females, it was when NaruSasu got a power up, that I was 99% sure females would always play 3rd rate to males. In every team, the female was always the weakest and I was hoping for that to change. But nope, in this series, it's a crime for a female to be equal to the male counterparts.

 

F U Kishi.

 

In fairness to the characters, I believe an argument could be made for Temari surpassing Kankuro overall. You also have Tsunade proponents attempting to justify why she's capable of defeating Orochimaru. 

 

In term of power, sakura will never equal with them.

 

She wouldn't be the equal of Naruto and Sasuke even if you stripped them of all bijuu, Rikudou abilities, and kekkei genkai. SM Naruto and CM Hebi Sasuke are still her superiors, by and large. They're just naturally more skilled and capable than she is in combat.  

Edited by Atheck, 24 March 2015 - 07:13 AM.

[rocci]

@atheck
I think yin seal sakura would be equal (if not stronger) with cm hebi sasuke without sharingan.

And sm naruto > cm hebi sasuke

[Atheck]

@atheck
I think yin seal sakura would be equal (if not stronger) with cm hebi sasuke without sharingan.

And sm naruto > cm hebi sasuke

 

Their feats are incomparable though. Introduction arc Sasuke without the Sharingan was pressuring Base Kakashi by touching a bell. Sakura's most notable close quarters feats consist of deadlocking Ino with fists and performing a one-armed handstand to avoid Sasori's blades. Her Part 2 strategy usually consisted of running up and pummeling her enemies to death with a linear punch. Hebi Sasuke could easily blitz her if he wanted to.  

 

Edit: I can agree with you if we're referring to war arc Naruto. But I think his original self during the Invasion of Pain arc without the toad sages could be challenged by CM Sasuke. 

Edited by Atheck, 24 March 2015 - 07:47 AM.

[Shadow1275]

 

Their feats are incomparable though. Introduction arc Sasuke without the Sharingan was pressuring Base Kakashi by touching a bell. Sakura's most notable close quarters feats consist of deadlocking Ino with fists and performing a one-armed handstand to avoid Sasori's blades. Her Part 2 strategy usually consisted of running up and pummeling her enemies to death with a linear punch. Hebi Sasuke could easily blitz her if he wanted to.  

 

Edit: I can agree with you if we're referring to war arc Naruto. But I think his original self during the Invasion of Pain arc without the toad sages could be challenged by CM Sasuke. 

i still would't consider her equal. yin seal increases her power but it also requires several years of storage. naruto and sasuke can use their powers whenever they please.

[Atheck]

i still would't consider her equal. yin seal increases her power but it also requires several years of storage. naruto and sasuke can use their powers whenever they please.

 

True, but I am willing to concede that Sakura's Yin Seal reserves are absolutely massive compared to Naruto or Sasuke's normal supply. Neither of them could perform the kind of chakra feats that she did. If there's one advantage that she has over her teammates without any permutations, it's stamina. 

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

If Kishi ends up doing some sort of alternative short where NS happens then clearly he's even more desperate than I thought.

 

More like quilt. I don't think he has the balls to do it. Although, the best solution is if NS was truly what he wanted. Then he should remake the ending somewhere in the future and he should not expect the fandom to support and forgive him. Make an apology to the fans then quit as a writer and just team up with a writer. Or called a career and just retire. That's the only alternative Kishi has of at least getting some of his fans to forgive him. Although, his career will be handicap for the rest of his life all due to the ending of Naruto and his misleading of fans.

 

I doubt this, considering he doesn't give a rat's *ss about his fanbase. He went with what he thought would please the most fans. Or well, his editors did. If he went on interview saying that NS was a red herring then expect nothing else from this man. He doesn't care.

It's easy to see it that way, but you have to remember that interview was a day before TL came out and he had spoiled the movie for us. So it could have been his reason saying he messed up and didn't want us to watch the movie nor follow the series anymore.

[Chatte]

Hey guys, anything new?? What's up?

 

I'm personally in a "war" with NH/SS fandoms again ever since my latest very disturbing drawing-conclusions article where I talked about Sakura's heroine status.

 

The lengths people would go to defend Kishi after this crappy ending is laughable!

[TouKen4Life3g]

What's up with tumblr being a comparison week? So far, I feel rather...amused for selective reading. Truly exposed.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Hey guys, anything new?? What's up?

 

I'm personally in a "war" with NH/SS fandoms again ever since my latest very disturbing drawing-conclusions article where I talked about Sakura's heroine status.

 

The lengths people would go to defend Kishi after this crappy ending is laughable!

 

Sorry to hear that. They are Kishi's personal laps dogs, barking up the wrong tree.. Wouldn't waste my time bothering with them.

[Chatte]

 

Sorry to hear that. They are Kishi's personal laps dogs, barking up the wrong tree.. Wouldn't waste my time bothering with them.

It's funny when you see them telling me I reduce Sakura to nothing but her love life when I am actually criticizing the novels for doing that. I mean, really???

[FireFox]

Hey guys, anything new?? What's up?

 

I'm personally in a "war" with NH/SS fandoms again ever since my latest very disturbing drawing-conclusions article where I talked about Sakura's heroine status.

 

The lengths people would go to defend Kishi after this crappy ending is laughable!

Yeah I saw that so sorry that you have to deal with crazy rabid SS nutcases right now *sign* . I can't believe how delusional they are and trying to excuse this kitten bc of some  "hospital"  kitten that we barely even saw or heard of when the preview as it says is all about her Pathetic Sasky Kun  . I have no idea how can they twist this and blame it on you for what kittening other author writes like WTF is wrong with you human kitten wake the kitten up    .  

 

Oh! Oh! and that "Tank You"  that apparently "Saved" her from I don't know what    . Its mindkittening how illiterate they are and just accept this BS when they forgot that  Sakura went to Naruto for help when he left  bc "She Gave Up on Him"  and she did it again  in the hospital with wounded Naruto  who btw cheered her up and "inspired" her to work harder  , and she gave up again  in the Kage Summit  and Naruto bring her back on her feet again  and also give up on him more then once in the freaking war to the point of her needing to lie bc she was freaking ashamed of the "feelings" she had for him before and didn't freaking trusted him .  So how and were dafuq does this "Tank You"  comes in when it was Naruto who brought faith , smile and inspired her all the time !? Who saved who in here really !? .

 

This is such an Retcon and Illogical BS and I can't believe how this crazy SS fanatics try to twist this and  on top of all  put it on you blame you for someone else's kitten  WTF !!!  .  Sorry for the slight rant but their delusional antics is really getting out of hand when they're trying to excuse abusive BS by twisting the kitten out of it and blaming someone else for the author kitten  its disgusting .                 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 24 March 2015 - 11:36 AM.