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[BakeNeko-Chan]

His departure wasnt a catalyst, Sasuke left and Naruto took the empty spot Sasuke left on Sakura's place, Sakura only wanted to be noticed by Sasuke which is shown on the bench scene, however he acknowledged her but he left and Sakura felt like she lose her ground and went desperately asked Naruto to bring him back, after Naruto failed and seeing how he was hurt because the fact he failed to bring Sasuke back and also witnessing his devotion towards this goal, she found out another goal to her life which was the help Naruto.

 

And the proof is that after the POAL she was going to visit Naruto first and then Sasuke which was totally different of the things she has done thoughout on part 1, Naruto become someome important to her because he was at her side when she needed the most (his departure) it wasnt a catalyst because in my opinion if Sasuke didnt left the village Naruto/Sakura would never stay on the way it is now.

 

She already did give up on Sasuke, and that's why she in a way is not doing stuff to bring Sasuke back, she accepted whatever outcome happens on Sasuke's case, she's worried about Naruto obviously but already accepted the idea of Sasuke dying as an example.

 

Definition of catalyst: Stimulus to change; someone or something that makes a change happen or brings about an event.

 

The bolded is pretty much an illustration of the definition of catalyst, so either you're unclear on the definition, or you're just trying to be contrary. Whether the development between Naruto and Sakura would have occurred had Sasuke never left, I can't say, maybe it would have only taken longer to come about, or maybe not. But the fact is, Sasuke leaving brought about a change in Naruto and Sakura's relationship, thus, Sasuke acted unknowingly as a catalyst.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Definition of catalyst: Stimulus to change; someone or something that makes a change happen or brings about an event.

 

The bolded is pretty much an illustration of the definition of catalyst, so either you're unclear on the definition, or you're just trying to be contrary. Whether the development between Naruto and Sakura would have occurred had Sasuke never left, I can't say, maybe it would have only taken longer to come about, or maybe not. But the fact is, Sasuke leaving brought about a change in Naruto and Sakura's relationship, thus, Sasuke acted unknowingly as a catalyst.

Catalyst  "something that makes it to happen faster or makes it easier to be" in short "speeds up the process".

 

There was no process to develop NS into a romantic relationship during part 1.

 

Just as a i thinking about this scenario.

The way the scenario on terms of NS was described on part 1, we only see that as a character they match each other but aside from that nothing was happening that could suggest they would get together or had a development to happen as a couple, they match together as a couple but had no ground for it to happen, the only way was to take Sasuke out of the equation to make Sakura lose what was important to her life on that moment(Sasuke) and discover a new path for her to walk and develop as a ninja because all the wanted there was to be noticed by Sasuke, her vow to be stronger only got fullfilled because it was a consequence of her vow to help Naruto on the hospital scene.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 December 2013 - 08:25 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Catalyst inst "something that makes it to happen faster or makes it easier to be" in short "speeds up the process".

 

There was no process to develop NS into a romantic relationship during part 1.

 

That is NOT EVEN what I said at all.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 19 December 2013 - 08:13 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

That is NOT EVEN what I said at all.

Catalyst can means two things, either a change like you described about or speed up a process or speed up the process of changing.
You could've said "Sasuke departure changed the relationship..." etc.. but you chose to use a word with double meaning, also my post wasnt express to disagree with you completely in a way just to point out that it had to be a change and not a form to speed up their development, so if you take as a change there would be no disagreement.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 December 2013 - 08:30 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Catalyst can means two things, either a change like you described about or speed up a process or speed up the process of changing.
You could've said "Sasuke departure changed the relationship..." etc.. but you chose to use a word with double meaning, also my post wasnt express to disagree with you completely in a way just to point out that it had to be a change and not a form to speed up their development, so if you take as a change there would be no disagreement.

 

This is just over my choice of word? Seriously? I know you were not completely disagreeing with me, which is why I do not understand your purpose. Catalyst, in the context that I used, which should have been clear enough on it's own, was a word to describe Sasuke's role, his decision to leave brought about a change in Naruto's relationship with Sakura, while Sasuke himself was unaffected, and that is what a catalyst is. Someone or something that brings about a change while itself remains unchanged.

 

Lots of words have double meanings, so it's really a moot argument, and that is why you must look at the context in which the word is used, taking a word with a double meaning out of context and saying 'it can also mean this', is just pointless. A catalyst also refers to a chemical reaction, but that clearly was not what I was describing. Just because a word has a double, or even several different possible meanings does not mean that using it should be avoided, that would be simply ridiculous, and my use of the word is not inaccurate for what I meant to illustrate, as you seem convinced that it is.

 

Anyways, this has gone off on a tangent, and I've made my point, so I'm going to stop here before this goes way off topic.  

[sushi.]

I have a headcanon that Naruto and Sakura's dynamics will compliment their way of living in the future.

 

To be more clear, I think that Sakura is a pretty analyctical person, a deep thinker and a bit of a workaholic. A lot of us see her helping him with paperwork and the burden of being Hokage, and while I agree I think it'll go the other way as well. Real life doctors lead a busy and stressful lifestyle, and I think when around Naruto, Sakura is much more lighthearted and silly. After a long and hectic day of work she'll come home to him, and his easygoing spirit will relieve her stress and they can just be ridiculous together.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I have a headcanon that Naruto and Sakura's dynamics will compliment their way of living in the future.

 

To be more clear, I think that Sakura is a pretty analyctical person, a deep thinker and a bit of a workaholic. A lot of us see her helping him with paperwork and the burden of being Hokage, and while I agree I think it'll go the other way as well. Real life doctors lead a busy and stressful lifestyle, and I think when around Naruto, Sakura is much more lighthearted and silly. After a long and hectic day of work she'll come home to him, and his easygoing spirit will relieve her stress and they can just be ridiculous together.

The lifestyle you described about is exactly as a modern woman who work away from home and sees her husband when she comes back home.

 

What support the view of many users who believe she will work along with Naruto is that the current relationships we get and how the previous couples worked on this manga, they always did their work together, with what has been presented in terms of couples support the fact Sakura is going to work with Naruto on the hokage office, and also Naruto's lack of intelligence when it comes to administrative work.

Shikamaru will be like Danzou but a more light version and wont seek to overthrow Naruto but he will work on his own since he has his own office.

 

Also what was shown on the manga, Kishi supports the classical relationship, he favours a couple who's often together and work together, RTN shows Minato and Kushina working together on their missions, Gaara's parents when they went to war is also shown they going to the war together, Sasuke's parents were often seem together aswell, Minato and Kushina(real) were always seem together after they become a couple.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 December 2013 - 07:30 PM.

[sushi.]

The lifestyle you described about is exactly as a modern woman who work away from home and sees her husband when she comes back home.

 

What support the view of many users who believe she will work along with Naruto is that the current relationships we get and how the previous couples worked on this manga, they always did their work together, with what has been presented in terms of couples support the fact Sakura is going to work with Naruto on the hokage office, and also Naruto's lack of intelligence when it comes to administrative work.

Shikamaru will be like Danzou but a more light version and wont seek to overthrow Naruto but he will work on his own since he has his own office.

 

Also what was shown on the manga, Kishi supports the classical relationship, he favours a couple who's often together and work together, RTN shows Minato and Kushina working together on their missions, Gaara's parents when they went to war is also shown they going to the war together, Sasuke's parents were often seem together aswell, Minato and Kushina(real) were always seem together after they become a couple.

I don't get what you're saying, why you always disagree with everything.  Didn't say they wouldn't work together either, actually I said they would. You just mentioned a different way, which doesn't matter because there will be no wars to go to after this one is over. But they'll sometimes have different schedules and I didn't say they would do the same every day.

Edited by sushi., 20 December 2013 - 07:35 PM.

[六道仙人]

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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't get what you're saying.  Didn't say they wouldn't work together either, actually I said they would. You just mentioned a different way, which doesn't matter because there will be no wars to go to after this one is over. But they'll sometimes have different schedules and I didn't say they would do the same every day.

if they are working together and Naruto's persona will relieve her stress, how she would be stressed if Naruto is there? then later "after a long and hetic day" like they arent working together.

It's funny because it's totally away from what the manga presented, you say one thing but points towards another direction.

Looks like people has a certain hate if Sakura works together with Naruto on the hokage office, when on the manga she's always on the hokage's office with Shizune carrying out Tsunade's orders.

 

I understand that you said " i like it" and etc.. i just said the manga proof over Sakura going to work with Naruto and you reply like i disagreed with you.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 December 2013 - 07:42 PM.

[sushi.]

if they are working together and Naruto's persona will relieve her stress, how she would be stressed if Naruto's is there? then later "after a long and hetic day" like they arent working together.

It's funny because it's totally away from what the manga presented, you say one thing but points towards another direction.

I'm hating debating over things like this, it's not even hard to understand what i was saying.

Looks like people has a certain hate if Sakura works together with Naruto on the hokage office, when on the manga she's always on the hokage's office with Shizune carrying out Tsunade's orders.

 

I have a headcanon that Naruto and Sakura's dynamics will compliment their way of living in the future.

 

To be more clear, I think that Sakura is a pretty analyctical person, a deep thinker and a bit of a workaholic. A lot of us see her helping him with paperwork and the burden of being Hokage, and while I agree I think it'll go the other way as well. Real life doctors lead a busy and stressful lifestyle, and I think when around Naruto, Sakura is much more lighthearted and silly. After a long and hectic day of work she'll come home to him, and his easygoing spirit will relieve her stress and they can just be ridiculous together.

Here I said they would work together. : ) But with being a medic comes irregular schedules. Sometimes you have a lot of work and sometimes you don't. She can't help him every day in the office and she can't be every day in the hospital. You sound like I said that every day would be long and hectic and she would come home to him. I see her working late a lot though

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Here I said they would work together. : ) But with being a medic comes irregular schedules. Sometimes you have a lot of work and sometimes you don't. She can't help him every day in the office and she can't be every day in the hospital. You sound like I said that every day would be long and hectic and she would come home to him. I see her working late a lot though

 

My reply was on this

 

 

I have a headcanon that Naruto and Sakura's dynamics will compliment their way of living in the future.

 

To be more clear, I think that Sakura is a pretty analyctical person, a deep thinker and a bit of a workaholic. A lot of us see her helping him with paperwork and the burden of being Hokage, and while I agree I think it'll go the other way as well. Real life doctors lead a busy and stressful lifestyle, and I think when around Naruto, Sakura is much more lighthearted and silly. After a long and hectic day of work she'll come home to him, and his easygoing spirit will relieve her stress and they can just be ridiculous together. 

 

 The bolded was my reply.

 

 

 

Here I said they would work together. : ) But with being a medic comes irregular schedules. Sometimes you have a lot of work and sometimes you don't. She can't help him every day in the office and she can't be every day in the hospital. You sound like I said that every day would be long and hectic and she would come home to him. I see her working late a lot though

 

That was what i adressed on my post, Sakura never worked as a full time medic or working on the hospital as her job, she was always carrying out Tsunade's orders when she was on the hospital was due to Tsunade's orders, on her free time she's always on the library reading books or being with her family.

On the begining on the shippuuden she was getting the report of the ninjas of Konoha, Sakura is a medic like you say but the manga never made her look like she's a real medic where her workplace is on the hospital, my post only adressed this fact.

 

Then i showed the dynamics of previous pairing and how they were always saw working together as a matter of fact to sustain.
I'm not disagreeing with the your likeness of Sakura working as a medic like a modern woman, i just pointed the manga facts that sustain the likeness of her going to work with Naruto because well, on the office Sakura should be the hokage, because Naruto looks more like some sort of protector.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 December 2013 - 07:49 PM.

[redragon88]

Did you guys know that people still claim that Kishi didn't write Road to Ninja?

 

The extent people will go to...

[Chatte]

Did you guys know that people still claim that Kishi didn't write Road to Ninja?

 

The extent people will go to...

Yeah, si I've heard...

By the way today is the Jump Festa thingie, right?

I hope we will get some good insight from Kishi.

 

Anyway, I will be gone for the holidays so just wanted to wish you all Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year as well! <3

[Hanabi]

Did you guys know that people still claim that Kishi didn't write Road to Ninja?

 

The extent people will go to...

maybe you can tell them kishi drew a one shot based on road to ninja ( or was it road to sakura..? ).

 

and i really think infinite tsukuyomi will be activated in the canon story, too. anybody want to bet? xD

 

happy holidays to everyone too!

Edited by Hanabi, 21 December 2013 - 08:13 AM.

[T XD]

Hey guys. How's it going ?

maybe you can tell them kishi drew a one shot based on road to ninja ( or was it road to sakura..? ).

 

and i really think infinite tsukuyomi will be activated in the canon story, too. anybody want to bet? xD

 

happy holidays to everyone too!

I bet Infinite Tsukuyomi won't be activated. Activating Infinite Tsukuyomi will make the plot change in a drastic way. I think if Kishi wants to have us witness something close to activating the Tsukuyomi, it will be a last minute win before the activation starts which I think it's very possible.

 

Plus, Madara on his own is on his way to take a volume about trying to defeat him, and it's possible that he can take more than one volume if we consider the fight with him will be still ongoing with Naruto and the alliance cause, from what I'm seeing now, it's somewhat a slow process with Madara. I don't think that Kishi will extend the war more after Madara with activating the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Edited by T XD, 21 December 2013 - 10:14 AM.

[Hanabi]

^ okay you're on. what's the penalty? fanart?

[T XD]

If we're going to make a bet penalty then the only way for this is any kind of fan art

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, si I've heard...

By the way today is the Jump Festa thingie, right?

I hope we will get some good insight from Kishi.

 

Anyway, I will be gone for the holidays so just wanted to wish you all Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year as well! <3

Have a wonderful time! 

 

Did you guys know that people still claim that Kishi didn't write Road to Ninja?

 

The extent people will go to...

Remember the time when they kept saying that he did before the movie? Those were the days.

[Hanabi]

I'm so confused. sd producer, rock lee's and tenten's voice actor, but no sakura voice actor chie?  http://www.saiyanisl...ump-festa-2013/

Edited by Hanabi, 21 December 2013 - 11:46 AM.