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[PhenixElite]

Yeah, Naruto and Hinata don't really compliment each other as well as NS does. Hinata is extremely shy and submissive,whilst Naruto is the opposite. To me, their relationship (if they had one) would crumble in a very short time. Mostly due to the lack of faith Hinata has in Naruto's abilities (she will constantly worry about him /argue with him believing he is always going to get himself killed)

ATM - NS being brotherly/sisterly is not completely impossible until Sakura develops romantic feeling for Naruto, at that point, NS will be canon ofc.

She has already developed romantic feelings for naruto, for NS becoming canon she completly needs to realize her feelings.

[HauntedCake]

She has already developed romantic feelings for naruto, for NS becoming canon she completly needs to realize her feelings.

I know how much Sakura cares/loves Naruto above anyone else, and how she puts his well being in front of even hers. I just can't see her loving Naruto romantically ATM. I know we have had many moments where she shows romantic feelings towards Naruto but they aren't consistent.

Chapter 1 of part 2 is a good one, she admires Naruto after he returns. They act completely natural around each other no masks and they are always playful with each other. This part is going to sound a little immature but it has a point.

Like with Sasuke, when has she shown these developed feelings of romance toward Naruto? You know like small fan-girling? I know that fan-girling is very shallow but she hasn't ever done anything like it with Naruto.

I understand she has yet to realize her feeling for him but to say she has already developed romantic feelings for him, personally IMO i think it's jumping the gun.

I have no doubt she will become romantically in love with Naruto,the entire manga points that direction but currently i believe she doesn't hold romantic feelings for him ATM (It's not really a priority to be fair, his well being and saftey is more important to her). She hold a true love for him ( which tbh is far more valuable)

Edited by HauntedCake, 08 March 2013 - 09:48 AM.

[PhenixElite]

I know how much Sakura cares/loves Naruto above anyone else, and how she puts his well being in front of even hers. I just can't see her loving Naruto romantically ATM. I know we have had many moments where she shows romantic feelings towards Naruto but they aren't consistent.

Chapter 1 of part 2 is a good one, she admires Naruto after he returns. They act completely natural around each other no masks and they are always playful with each other. This part is going to sound a little immature but it has a point.

Like with Sasuke, when has she shown these developed feelings of romance toward Naruto? You know like small fan-girling? I know that fan-girling is very shallow but she hasn't ever done anything like it with Naruto.

I understand she has yet to realize her feeling for him but to say she has already developed romantic feelings for him, personally IMO i think it's jumping the gun.

I have no doubt she will become romantically in love with Naruto,the entire manga points that direction but currently i believe she doesn't hold romantic feelings for him ATM (It's not really a priority to be fair, his well being and saftey is more important to her). She hold a true love for him ( which tbh is far more valuable)

Fangirling is something imature you do for your crush, it has nothing to do with real love.
Actions like tenchi bridge, the hug and the looks she gives to him as well as the moments only sai recognized, not to forget the databook, indeed show that she already has romatic feelings for him. If she had no romantic feeling for him by now it would be in no kind different from what naruto has with hinata, NS would happen out of the blue.

Think about it, what makes you believe that NS has a bigger chance then NH happening if you dont see any NS moment as a moment that shows, that sakura has something more for naruto. A NS monent is for me a momet that shows that sakura has special(romantic) feelings for naruto.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Fangirling is something imature you do for your crush, it has nothing to do with real love.
Actions like tenchi bridge, the hug and the looks she gives to him as well as the moments only sai recognized, not to forget the databook, indeed show that she already has romatic feelings for him. If she had no romantic feeling for him by now it would be in no kind different from what naruto has with hinata, NS would happen out of the blue.

Think about it, what makes you believe that NS has a bigger chance then NH happening if you dont see any NS moment as a moment that shows, that sakura has something more for naruto. A NS monent is for me a momet that shows that sakura has special(romantic) feelings for naruto.

Well Sakura is always trolling Naruto when he thinks it's a date she finds an excuse to hide her intentions and funny that Naruto cant read it, despite he claiming that he's able to get it.

About Hinata i think Hinata feelings for Naruto developed a bit, i doubt that she will be continue hiding behind a tree.

I hope this pairing stuff gets resolved on the end of the arc.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 March 2013 - 10:24 AM.

[Zatheko]

Well Sakura is always trolling Naruto when he thinks it's a date she finds an excuse to hide her intentions and funny that Naruto cant read it, despite he claiming that he's able to get it.

About Hinata i think Hinata feelings for Naruto developed a bit, i doubt that she will be continue hiding behind a tree.

I hope this pairing stuff gets resolved on the end of the arc.

I couldn't agree more, all this pairing stuff just needs to end, it is really becoming tiresome lol I just wish kishi would hurry and canon a pairing already.

[candycane-chan]

Yeah, Naruto and Hinata don't really compliment each other as well as NS does. Hinata is extremely shy and submissive,whilst Naruto is the opposite. To me, their relationship (if they had one) would crumble in a very short time. Mostly due to the lack of faith Hinata has in Naruto's abilities (she will constantly worry about him /argue with him believing he is always going to get himself killed)

ATM - NS being brotherly/sisterly is not completely impossible until Sakura develops romantic feeling for Naruto, at that point, NS will be canon ofc.

Naruto and sakura being a brotherly/sister relation IS completely impossible. Not only because sakura has already started developing feelings for him ( she also confessed in public which leaves an impression) but also because naruto loves her. Also, a brother wouldn't want to have a bath with his sister or try to peek at her in a hot spring Them always going on dates and others assuming that they are on dates. ( like in road to ninja) Their relationship is far too awkward for them to act like "family"

She has already developed romantic feelings for naruto, for NS becoming canon she completly needs to realize her feelings.

This.

And the pairing stuff is looong before over Kishi will probably keep milking it till the very end.

Edited by candycane-chan, 08 March 2013 - 11:28 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

That feel when your birthday is on friday! hell yeah!

[PhenixElite]

That feel when your birthday is on friday! hell yeah!

Ohh, Happy Birthday then, dont drink too much! ;)

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Ohh, Happy Birthday then, dont drink too much!

Drink?
I have exam of Network Operating Systems at 21:00 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Drink?
I have exam of Network Operating Systems at 21:00 PM.

Hahaha fail. Next chance tomorrow

[candycane-chan]

darkest happy birthday !


I just realized how much the hand holding is overrated. And that's only becuase it was the first time hinata ever touched naruto and stood up at him like that the reactions were ...well like they were.

I mean even sakura and ino held each other's hand multiple times and with the same effect the so called NH hand hold hand.

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Edited by candycane-chan, 08 March 2013 - 03:56 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well Sakura is always trolling Naruto when he thinks it's a date she finds an excuse to hide her intentions and funny that Naruto cant read it, despite he claiming that he's able to get it.

About Hinata i think Hinata feelings for Naruto developed a bit, i doubt that she will be continue hiding behind a tree.

I hope this pairing stuff gets resolved on the end of the arc.

I couldn't agree more, all this pairing stuff just needs to end, it is really becoming tiresome lol I just wish kishi would hurry and canon a pairing already.

I do think NH will be the one to get resolved in the end of the arc as NS and SS will be the one to battle it out. I think that's what Kishi is planning to do anyway. Give one last hurrah to NH because side characters will get side lined in terms of development and maybe even battles. After playing the game, I noticed there's a pattern and looks like the main crew will get the next shining moment.

Naruto and sakura being a brotherly/sister relation IS completely impossible. Not only because sakura has already started developing feelings for him ( she also confessed in public which leaves an impression) but also because naruto loves her. Also, a brother wouldn't want to have a bath with his sister or try to peek at her in a hot spring Them always going on dates and others assuming that they are on dates. ( like in road to ninja) Their relationship is far too awkward for them to act like "family"


This.

And the pairing stuff is looong before over Kishi will probably keep milking it till the very end.

I always feel that Sakura should be Sasuke's "sister". Maybe she will adapt the idea from Naruto and just become a sister figure to him. It will be a nice conclusion to their relationship if Kishi does care about pairing anymore than he has written. Seriously, this pairing is crumbled to 1000 pieces, it's hard to find all of them and put them back.

That feel when your birthday is on friday! hell yeah!

Happy Birthday!

darkest happy birthday !


I just realized how much the hand holding is overrated. And that's only becuase it was the first time hinata ever touched naruto and stood up at him like that the reactions were ...well like they were.

I mean even sakura and ino held each other's hand multiple times and with the same effect the so called NH hand hold hand.

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It always has been. If you want the hand holding to be romantic, then it must happen on a daily life basis, not in battlefield where one man needed to do it in order pass chakra. Yes, it was Hinata first time touching Naruto, even though someone else passed her a long time, but I digress. See, that's why the hug is secretly romantic because there's no chakra passing, no battle going on, and most importantly, not needed. When I say not needed, I mean exactly what that accomplished if there's no battlefield. Simple answer: character development. Not to mention the atmosphere that scene has is obviously given. To me, hand holding can also mean acknowledgement of equal, which to me that seems to be the case for Hinata. That's why I said kudos to Kishi because he played it safe by getting her wish right here, rather than never.

[Slextrem]

@candycane-chan - The number of times that other characters have held hands in the series is irrelevant. What's more important to point out is the context, which in the examples that you've provided, is not romantic. Sakura's relationship with Ino is friendly, her relationship with Tsunade is familial, and that goes for Naruto's relationship with Sasuke as well. All of these pairs have held hands with one another at some point, but none of these examples have a romantic context. Therefore, they shouldn't be used in comparison to the NaruHina handhold, which does have some romantic undertones.

NaruHina fans are really fond of 615 because they believe that the context of the moment is romantic. It certainly is from Hinata's perspective, but Naruto, on the other hand... Well, it's arguable. They believe that he held hands with her out of love, but we can just as easily say that he held hands with her was to transfer chakra, making the moment platonic from Naruto's perspective. 616 supports this interpretation, as he lets go of Hinata's hand as soon as the chapter pans back to the Alliance and proceeds to hold hands with other characters, like Ino, Chouji, and Shikamaru.

Anyway, I think the best moment to compare 615 to is 450 - Sakura's hug. Both moments have arguably romantic undertones, both occur between Naruto and his possible love interests, and both moments had the fandom losing their minds. Which one has the most romantic context behind it? I believe it's Sakura's hug. She had no ulterior motive behind hugging Naruto, she's been canonically proven to be Naruto's love interest (unlike Hinata), and the crowd around them was blushing (which suggests that the moment was intended to be romantic.) 615 was quite different in comparison.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Again.. 10th time
The fact that Naruto didnt blushed on the handholding is enough proof that he had 0 romantic intentions from him, even Hinata didnt blushed, the fact that made it romantic(infatuation) for Hinata was her comment about Naruto's hand, if this comment didnt appeared the scene would not be romantic(infatuation) from Hinata's side, you can simply hold someome's hand while talking with the kyuubi and think it's romantic, a romantic scene must be mutual, even Sakura's hug was not mutual, Naruto didnt hugged Sakura back and he didnt was blushing he was surprised for Sakura displaying affection towards him, it had romantic intentions from Sakura, with Hinata it was her comment with Sakura, was the kids blushing and the whole fact that the first to praise him was the girl he loves.

Even on Sakura's confession Naruto didnt hugged Sakura back.
Finishing, Handholding and hugs have a lot of meaning on Japan's culture, therefore, there's only one romantic scene that could be accept is if Naruto hugs someome, Sakura hugged Naruto two times and he didnt returned it, Naruto hold Hinata's hand but it wasnt valid while Naruto's mind was focused on the Juubi, talking with the Kyuubi he didnt even talked with her on 616, it had the same effect of Naruto not returning Sakura's hug.
Which is the reason why Hinata didnt feel bad on Sakura's hug, only Lee.

I think this debate on if Handholding is romantic or not is a bit pointless.

Sakura's hug demonstrated that she likes him but Hinata does not care, aswell as Sakura, Sakura does not care if Hinata loves Naruto, aswell as Hinata does not care if Sakura loves him, it's proven dozen of times on this manga.
With this i also say that it's kind of weird for Hinata to give up on Naruto just because she said she would stop chasing him, while "stop chasing him" has different interpretations like.

"Walking together with you"- fighting alongside

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 March 2013 - 05:18 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@candycane-chan - The number of times that other characters have held hands in the series is irrelevant. What's more important to point out is the context, which in the examples that you've provided, is not romantic. Sakura's relationship with Ino is friendly, her relationship with Tsunade is familial, and that goes for Naruto's relationship with Sasuke as well. All of these pairs have held hands with one another at some point, but none of these examples have a romantic context. Therefore, they shouldn't be used in comparison to the NaruHina handhold, which does have some romantic undertones.

NaruHina fans are really fond of 615 because they believe that the context of the moment is romantic. It certainly is from Hinata's perspective, but Naruto, on the other hand... Well, it's arguable. They believe that he held hands with her out of love, but we can just as easily say that he held hands with her was to transfer chakra, making the moment platonic from Naruto's perspective. 616 supports this interpretation, as he lets go of Hinata's hand as soon as the chapter pans back to the Alliance and proceeds to hold hands with other characters, like Ino, Chouji, and Shikamaru.

Anyway, I think the best moment to compare 615 to is 450 - Sakura's hug. Both moments have arguably romantic undertones, both occur between Naruto and his possible love interests, and both moments had the fandom losing their minds. Which one has the most romantic context behind it? I believe it's Sakura's hug. She had no ulterior motive behind hugging Naruto, she's been canonically proven to be Naruto's love interest (unlike Hinata), and the crowd around them was blushing (which suggests that the moment was intended to be romantic.) 615 was quite different in comparison.

It's like I said in the previous post, I give credit to Kishi to make this possible without subjecting Naruto into a lover for Hinata, which is impossible to do. Note: only way to kill your writing. Anyway, Naruto really shows no love interest look at all. He could at least do that special smile to cheer her that he's fine, but nothing, just thanks, here's the chakra, and bye. All I can say is that if Naruto does smile with Sakura around, then I think it's really obvious what Naruto feels. Hinata never got him to get a panel of concern and special smile you see when talking to Sakura. Sai pretty nailed it.

Comparing 615 to 450. Again, 615 has a motive behind it while 450 has nothing. So why that scene even happen in the first place. You could keep asking yourself to the end. When 616 was released and he held many characters, including Ino, hands, I just laughed and pretty much weakened 615 as a romance by a lot. They should be thankful that Hinata finally got a physically touch of Naruto. If you want the scene to be romantic, try doing it in a daily life basis.

[HauntedCake]

Anyway, I think the best moment to compare 615 to is 450 - Sakura's hug. Both moments have arguably romantic undertones, both occur between Naruto and his possible love interests, and both moments had the fandom losing their minds. Which one has the most romantic context behind it? I believe it's Sakura's hug. She had no ulterior motive behind hugging Naruto, she's been canonically proven to be Naruto's love interest (unlike Hinata), and the crowd around them was blushing (which suggests that the moment was intended to be romantic.) 615 was quite different in comparison.

Funny, they blush on the first page but not on the second...

[Slextrem]

Funny, they blush on the first page but not on the second...

The second page focuses on the K11, not the crowd of kids that were blushing at the hug. Besides, I think after Sakura says, "Thank you", everyone is thinking about how grateful they are to Naruto, rather than how romantic it is to see Sakura hugging him. The focus shifts.

Edited by Slextrem, 08 March 2013 - 05:22 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Funny, they blush on the first page but not on the second...

There's no blushing coming from Naruto or Sakura neither on the first or the second one
The difference is that her hug was different she hold Naruto's cheeks instead of the traditional one, but again Naruto didnt hugged her back he was surprised.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The second page focuses on the K11, not the crowd of kids that were blushing at the hug. Besides, I think after Sakura says, "Thank you", everyone is thinking about how grateful they are to Naruto, rather than how romantic it is to see Sakura hugging him. The focus shifts.

Yeah, this. Funny how the anime made her blush after the hug, but you know, that's anime.

[Tsubaki]

Happy Birthday Dαrkrєrsŧ

people are comparing Gruvia hold hands with the NaruHina one

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But look the follow up that Gruvia gained:

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defeated the enemy together

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of course that the situations are different, but Kishi could have done something similar to highlight the moment like Mashima did instead of decrease it like he did in chapter 616.