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[MangaReader]

@ RomanceGirl... I love the enthusiasm, but there's such a thing of over doing it

[HauntedCake]

Actually, Naruto's love for Sakura is still present realistically. The last confirmation of his feelings was during though Kage Summit, first by Sai and then by Naruto himself during her confession. Noted it was indirectly but it was fairly obvious he still loved her through his reaction to the entire thing. Naruto's expression was originally a shocked type of happy, blushing and everything. But the important thing was that when Sakura asked him angrily if he still liked her, Naruto completely avoided it. This is crucial because Naruto can be very blunt and he believed 100% that she did not love him so he wouldn't be worrying about hurting her feelings and would straight-up say he no longer felt that way. That's just his personality. Some might argue it's invalid because Sakura hurt Naruto by lying or that too many chapters have passed but both those arguments fail because a). Naruto is very forgiving. Sasuke has hurt him far worse and he still loves him. This is an even more questionable anti-argument when Sai told him she was only thinking of him. Naruto dropping his romantic feelings? Plz. b). The "It's been over 100 chapters!" fails miserably and is probably one of the worst. We think in their time, not ours. Only two or three weeks passed since the confession. Tell me: Is that enough time to fall out of love with someone? Of course not! It's even worse since Naruto has trouble letting go of important bonds like that. With Sasuke, despite everything, he still views him as brother. So I have reason to believe that, despite everything, Naruto still loves Sakura with all his heart. The question should not whether or not he still loves Sakura, we already know this if you read neutrally. The real question is if he's developing feelings for Hinata. Realistically, if he is for some reason, then Kishi's just creating another triangle. That's the only way to put it.

Hey romance girl, yet again an AWESOME post. Loved it.

Bolded: I can't recall her asking him this?

[TouKen4Life3g]

@xxRomanceGirlxx: Wonderful post. It was well worth the wait.

Agreed, if we look at how the manga progressed its pretty much impossible to end it without a canon pairing.
But i dont know what you mean with: "another way is getting canceled".

What I mean is that if the author planned to end with a romance but sadly his/her series got canceled, then there's a good chance that ending won't happen. It's like getting canceled at this moment and pretty much make Naruto vs. Obito the final battle. The way Storm 3 ended is like what if Naruto gets canceled right now. Then again, Busou Renkin did end with a romance...eh, I guess it's up to the author.

I don't mind the neutral translation. I'd rather have that than translations biased towards any one pairing at all. 'Cause the way I see it, it puts all fandoms on even ground.

Well the "try to find someone like your mother" still stands and isnt fan neutral in any way.

Yeah, isn't that a problem with Kushina.

Someone was talking about Mito and possible another love triangle, well I don't think that will happen. I can see this way though:

Uzumaki was determined to be the vessel for the beast, which probably angered Mito. Hashirama, as usual, tried to make peace and be friendly with her, but she rebels against him and hates him. Probably curse him out to the point Hashirama gets depressed. Mito slowly sees him to be different from all other ninjas, including his own clan. When you think about it, he's the only that acts differently, while Tobirama and othrs are more strict. Eventually, Mito becomes good friend to Hashirama and then lovers, which she will be fine to be a vessel. Perhaps Hashirama will be the one to tell her that everything is going to ok because as bad as it sounds to be a jinchuuriki, the power of love (which Hashirama striving on) will negate hatred. I guess you can say that's where Mito passed down to Kushina.

Hey romance girl, yet again an AWESOME post. Loved it.

Bolded: I can't recall her asking him this?

She didn't ask like that, but she did say "If you don't love me, then just say it," but Naruto avoided it and mainly focus on why abandon Sasuke all the sudden.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 March 2013 - 06:25 PM.

[AzureWaters]

I would prefer it if Mito simply liked Hashirama without the love triangle thing. It would be a nice change.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I would prefer it if Mito simply liked Hashirama without the love triangle thing. It would be a nice change.

Same here. You can see my suggestion above. I can see it happening.

[StrikerTheNoble]

well I got bored so I made a NaruSaku logo/symbol. What do you think?

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 07 March 2013 - 06:50 PM.

[AzureWaters]

Same here. You can see my suggestion above. I can see it happening.

Its a possibility if Mito gets enough emphasis. There's a chance she may just show up as an adult or already seen to be married to Hashirama. I say that because the flashback centers on Madara/Hashi rather than like the MinaKushi where Kushina was telling Naruto about how she fell in love.

If it is focused on, your predicition may happen, although my first impression of Mito is the Konan type. She looks sort of like she'd have a regal/serious personality, although she may be Tsundere.

[TouKen4Life3g]

well I got bored so I made a NaruSaku logo/symbol. What do you think?

Hey, that's nice. Thank you.

Quick note: I find it interesting in Storm 3, he was fighting his mind about whether about trusting the village. This part happens during him battling against dark Naruto. He was told about trust and passion with each other. He called out his Iruka-Sensei (logical sense) and Sakura-chan (again, make sense). Then he just said all of his friends after that. Nice tidbit to share, that's all.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 March 2013 - 07:02 PM.

[T XD]

Its a possibility if Mito gets enough emphasis. There's a chance she may just show up as an adult or already seen to be married to Hashirama. I say that because the flashback centers on Madara/Hashi rather than like the MinaKushi where Kushina was telling Naruto about how she fell in love.

If it is focused on, your predicition may happen, although my first impression of Mito is the Konan type. She looks sort of like she'd have a regal/serious personality, although she may be Tsundere.

I can see Mito somewhat serious like Konan, but tsundere at the same time. I think, at least, the well known anger will be shown XD

well I got bored so I made a NaruSaku logo/symbol. What do you think?

That's really nice. I liked the colors mixed with each other symbols.

Edited by T XD, 07 March 2013 - 07:16 PM.

[narusakurama]

Uzumaki was determined to be the vessel for the beast, which probably angered Mito. Hashirama, as usual, tried to make peace and be friendly with her, but she rebels against him and hates him. Probably curse him out to the point Hashirama gets depressed. Mito slowly sees him to be different from all other ninjas, including his own clan. When you think about it, he's the only that acts differently, while Tobirama and othrs are more strict. Eventually, Mito becomes good friend to Hashirama and then lovers, which she will be fine to be a vessel. Perhaps Hashirama will be the one to tell her that everything is going to ok because as bad as it sounds to be a jinchuuriki, the power of love (which Hashirama striving on) will negate hatred. I guess you can say that's where Mito passed down to Kushina.

I thought their marriage was just an arrangement at first to better unite the Senju and Uzumaki clans . I don't think Mito was originally destined to become the Kyuubi's vessel . That happens during (or maybe after ) the fight with Madara and Mito herself decides to seal the kyuubi in her to help Hashirama (so she already had the love to support her making that decision ). As for the love triangle , I am not sure the Uchiha had anything to do with the Uzumaki or that Mito meets Madara at all before becoming Hashirama's wife . Guess it will remain to be seen .

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I thought their marriage was just an arrangement at first to better unite the Senju and Uzumaki clans . I don't think Mito was originally destined to become the Kyuubi's vessel . That happens during (or maybe after ) the fight with Madara and Mito herself decides to seal the kyuubi in her to help Hashirama (so she already had the love to support her making that decision ). As for the love triangle , I am not sure the Uchiha had anything to do with the Uzumaki or that Mito meets Madara at all before becoming Hashirama's wife . Guess it will remain to be seen .

I believe that they didnt meet before, and i also believe that Mito may be a tsundere type, Hashirama does not seem like a guy "who can handle the things by himself" even being grown he still shows a little of immaturity.

Mito and Hashirama had an arranged marriage and i do believe on this.

She was smart and a strong woman.

But i do hope she does not appear on those flashbacks i hope it just show Madara and hashirama, there's no need for Hashirama to talk about his personal life, since this chapter is a flashback of the flashback of the fight.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 March 2013 - 08:25 PM.

[redragon88]

Quick note: I find it interesting in Storm 3, he was fighting his mind about whether about trusting the village. This part happens during him battling against dark Naruto. He was told about trust and passion with each other. He called out his Iruka-Sensei (logical sense) and Sakura-chan (again, make sense). Then he just said all of his friends after that. Nice tidbit to share, that's all.

It's nice to hear about these little portions of the game. If you find anything else please do keep posting about it.

[Chucky-kun]

It would be interesting to see how NS parallels into an arranged marriage.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's nice to hear about these little portions of the game. If you find anything else please do keep posting about it.

Will do. I think the best thing they have done so far is MinaKushi and the flashback. To this day, I can't believe Obito did this. It's like last generation trying to kill this generation of themselves. It's crazy.

[Gravenimage]

I would prefer it if Mito simply liked Hashirama without the love triangle thing. It would be a nice change.

It can happen after all Kishi made Yahiko/Konan without a love triangle Nagato never like her romantically but as a close friend.

[bthug]

I was just thinking and you ever wonder y there has been a "NH moment" (if u can even call it that) at Naruto moat dire/crucial moments and not NS...e.g. Pein and and chap 615

[TouKen4Life3g]

I was just thinking and you ever wonder y there has been a "NH moment" (if u can even call it that) at Naruto moat dire/crucial moments and not NS...e.g. Pein and and chap 615

What do you mean by that? You mean when something going on, rather than a normal daily life?

[redragon88]

I was just thinking and you ever wonder y there has been a "NH moment" (if u can even call it that) at Naruto moat dire/crucial moments and not NS...e.g. Pein and and chap 615

Probably because if it's not in some stressful situation Hinata doesn't even appear in Naruto's radar.

That's the problem I have with NH, it relies on a few instant big moments instead of constant development. The NH relationship is all about Hinata earning Naruto's appreciation and to finally be an equal to him. There's not personal development between them, they don't feel complex emotions in regards to each other. That's why it feels so dry.

I get the feeling that if Sakura wasn't in love with Sasuke anymore and wasn't misunderstood a some mentally insane abusive woman, as a good portion of the internet fandom seems to think, more people would actually be rooting for Naruto and Sakura to get together. Hinata would be for people as she's meant to be, a secondary character who gets development thanks to her love for the hero.

I think some people want NH because they're under the assumption that Hinata's love for Naruto was specifically tailor made for the sake of grooming her into the perfect girlfriend. That's a mistake that can potentially lead to a big disappointment. It's actually pretty hurtful towards Hinata's character when those people just write her off as simply existing to be Naruto's perfect love interest and nothing more.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@ RomanceGirl... I love the enthusiasm, but there's such a thing of over doing it

Lol, I agree. This is exactly why I can never debate shippings on YT without spamming the comments section. xD It's actually somewhat of an embarassment for me when that happens. But my posts naturally have trouble being short. Even when it's not about NS/NH/SS, they can easily reach 3 to 4 paragraphs. I swear, I don't do it on purpose, I just talk too much online. xD

Next time, I'm not having something this long. It's just ... just too much, no matter how thorough and solid some might think my points are.

@redragon: I noticed that about NH. We rarely see them interact on a regular basis. There was the Chunin Exam Test, but it only happened by coincidence. Then there was the Blood Vow, only brought on by Hinata about to get killed and Naruto's insulted pride (About how losers can never change). Then there was the pep talk, which only happened because he was down. Then there was their reunion in Part 2, which ended in fainting. Then there was the confession, eyes scene, and 615 that took place in life-or-death situations.

The point is that Naruto and Hinata never interact naturally. There has to be some other reason for it taking place, it's not like NaruSaku. They can spend time together all day and it's very natural and fun. With NH, it's just ... awkward IMO. NaruHina is an awkward pair. xD Top that all off with almost no frequent panel time. Naruto didn't even reunite with her post-confession until the War which was at least a few months. Yet people argue it makes sense and is "natural"?

And people still argue that NS is a bro/sis relationship, it's awkward, and doesn't make sense. If that's truly what NS is, then what does that make NH?

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 08 March 2013 - 08:25 AM.

[HauntedCake]

Lol, I agree. This is exactly why I can never debate shippings on YT without spamming the comments section. xD It's actually somewhat of an embarassment for me when that happens. But my posts naturally have trouble being short. Even when it's not about NS/NH/SS, they can easily reach 3 to 4 paragraphs. I swear, I don't do it on purpose, I just talk too much online. xD

Next time, I'm not having something this long. It's just ... just too much, no matter how thorough and solid some might think my points are.

@redragon: I noticed that about NH. We rarely see them interact on a regular basis. There was the Chunin Exam Test, but it only happened by coincidence. Then there was the Blood Vow, only brought on by Hinata about to get killed and Naruto's insulted pride (About how losers can never change). Then there was the pep talk, which only happened because he was down. Then there was their reunion in Part 2, which ended in fainting. Then there was the confession, eyes scene, and 615 that took place in life-or-death situations.

The point is that Naruto and Hinata never interact naturally. There has to be some other reason for it taking place, it's not like NaruSaku. They can spend time together all day and it's very natural and fun. With NH, it's just ... awkward IMO. NaruHina is an awkward pair. xD Top that all off with almost no frequent panel time. Naruto didn't even reunite with her post-confession until the War which was at least a few months. Yet people argue it makes sense and is "natural"?

And people still argue that NS is a bro/sis relationship, it's awkward, and doesn't make sense. If that's truly what NS is, then what does that make NH?

Yeah, Naruto and Hinata don't really compliment each other as well as NS does. Hinata is extremely shy and submissive,whilst Naruto is the opposite. To me, their relationship (if they had one) would crumble in a very short time. Mostly due to the lack of faith Hinata has in Naruto's abilities (she will constantly worry about him /argue with him believing he is always going to get himself killed)

ATM - NS being brotherly/sisterly is not completely impossible until Sakura develops romantic feeling for Naruto, at that point, NS will be canon ofc.