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#12201 Nefertieh

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 11:07 AM

True.

 

I don't believe in Kishimoto anymore, but I am here, because I won't be able to live peacefully knowing there is still info out there about how far they went to destroy us, how much it took from them and how believable they managed to keep us dead. This info comes from the movie. And I won't be able to do any damage control until it is all over.

 

Thankyou for your translations and the info you are providing. But at this moment, looking at this movie for me feels like a twist in the knife that's very nicely lodged itself between my ribs. Ugh.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 11:16 AM

True.

 

I don't believe in Kishimoto anymore, but I am here, because I won't be able to live peacefully knowing there is still info out there about how far they went to destroy us, how much it took from them and how believable they managed to keep us dead. This info comes from the movie. And I won't be able to do any damage control until it is all over.

 I said this a few times and I'm going to say it again the best way to express our displeasure with the end is to unite all fans of ns and do not support the movie and the new series.with that he will lose a lot of money :mad: :mad:



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Posted 18 November 2014 - 11:23 AM

Would we still hear Naruto saying: "Sakura-chan"??

 

 

dattebayo this, dattebayo that.

 

what hurts me the most is all this NH.

 

i can bear with SS even if a lot of people here would raise an eyebrow on me.

 

but i guess its because i trusted Naruto too much to make things right.

 

Sasuke used to be my favorite character, and was annoyed by Naruto.

 

but as the series progress i grew fond of that boy.

 

that eventually became someone truly admirable.

 

although he went on being 16 years old while i continuously age,

 

Therefore right now, it feels like I'm an older sister, caring for a lil brother that i never had.

 

Aside from seeing him achieve his lifelong goal as a Hokage, i wanted to see him happy too.

 

and when i say that i mean, genuinely happy and satisfied.

 

something that i don't see him as in the epilogue.

 

and now in this movie its like they have this boy who looked like Naruto but doesn't feel like Naruto. (same with the epilogue)

 

The haircut and the new aura around him makes me think of grief.

 

the militaristic vibe, the dark sash of color, the absence of his usual vibrant color scheme...

 

Sure, Ksihimoto made him more of an adult now.

 

 

 

 

a sad one.

 

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 11:46 AM

 I said this a few times and I'm going to say it again the best way to express our displeasure with the end is to unite all fans of ns and do not support the movie and the new series.with that he will lose a lot of money :mad: :mad:

I don't know about you and your country, but here in Russia there are no official screenings, DVDs or merchandise sold, so there is no easy way for me to support this movie. :sweatdrop:


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:02 PM

Hey, just a thought, would you guys jump ship if NH was properly done/justified in the movie? Or if NS got closure? (Those who are watching it anyway.) 

 

I would love to hear your opinions.


Edited by Paperman, 18 November 2014 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:09 PM

Hey, just a thought, would you guys jump ship if NH was properly done/justified in the movie? Or if NS got closure? (Those who are watching it anyway.) 

 

I would love to hear your opinions.

No cause the movie no matter how you look at it is asspull and forced. So i couldnt care less if kishi as a writer wanted NH it development should been in the manga not a movie, just think back have any other movies connected to the manga like this one? noooo........... cause that how much lengths they have to go to create this asspull.


Edited by Xan, 18 November 2014 - 12:11 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:10 PM

Hey, just a thought, would you guys jump ship if NH was properly done/justified in the movie? Or if NS got closure? (Those who are watching it anyway.) 

 

I would love to hear your opinions.

 

I wouldn't really know how could it be "done right" at this point...when they treat NS as if it never existed.

 

i am willing to accept NH to be canon and all that

 

but to support it or rather to "ship" it???

 

 

a BIG NO

 

 

how bout you?


Edited by dejavu, 18 November 2014 - 12:10 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:14 PM

nakamura chie (sakuras voice actress) said in her blog she loved the ending and that she also loved sakura.

 

http://ameblo.jp/nakamura-chie/

 

 

not surprised though, shes a big ss fan, hell she even calls sasuke ''my darling''.

 

:facepalm: and there we have it a woman that is openly up to a abusive relationship the message this is sending across the world smh. It only when they have there faces bashed by a man they start to use they brain and scream abuse.


Edited by Xan, 18 November 2014 - 12:18 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:17 PM

Why are some people trying to make NS fans accept SS on a NS site?

It like me going to a sports message board trying to get people to like my team.

There is no way this movie would change my mind. Kishi could've insert hinita in parts where you had sakura. When naruto was training. You could've had hinita there and not sakura.

You could've had kushina tell naruto find some that loves you, not someone like me.

IMO, this is the worse pairings done.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:24 PM

:facepalm: and there we have it a woman that is openly up to a abusive relationship the message this is sending across the world smh. It only when they have there faces bashed by a man they start to use they brain and scream abuse.


I guess she was ok with Ray Rice knocking out his girl friend in the elevator.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:30 PM

 

how bout you?

 

Personally, I would never ship NH even if it was 'done well.' Entirely because Hinata's character is entirely one-dimensional. I can't ship something if the character doesn't appeal to me. 

 

Although, I've saw many people claim that they were willing to give NH a try, or that they've suddenly accepted it to be their OTP once that movie trailer/ending came out. 



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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:31 PM

Hey, just a thought, would you guys jump ship if NH was properly done/justified in the movie? Or if NS got closure? (Those who are watching it anyway.) 

 

I would love to hear your opinions.

Good question.

Ok, let's imagine that 110 minutes minus neutral footage could overshadow 700 chapters of development by drawing some overwhelmingly deep romantic scenes, showing Naruto genuinely falling for Hinata because of her brave and kind actions. (the worst scenario for me as NS shipper to he honest)

 

Would it kill the fact that NS was still present in the manga, that Naruto was in love with Sakura for 7 or smth years, that she was his first love and that they developed a deep and beautiful bond that could end up in a relationship? They are precious to each other to the point where even spouses could possibly not be more important than that bond. I still remember the scene in manga, when Naruto was in genjutsu and Sakura appeared from his stomach, representing how she gives him life force. Or that other scene, when Sakura and Sasuke reflected in his eyes. I knew at that moment that Sakura will always be precious to Naruto no matter how their relationship progresses.

 

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Thankfully we, NS shippers, will always have this if the movie stays on the ground of believability. We will always have ENOUGH to be strong. This is both infuriating and comforting.

The only manga I know where main character's bond with a female character is stronger than any other to the point of being the main bond of the manga, but probably not romantic, is Bleach - Ichigo and Rukia. Rukia is named Ichigo's other half that he waited for for so long, she stopped the rain that was falling in his heart, she saved his soul and gave him purpose, even Kubo himself wrote it in his poems, but he also said he doesn't see this bond as a romantic one. Will Orihime ever be more important to Ichigo even if they get together in the end? Will it make his bond with Rukia less significant, less important to him? No. Never. Rukia will be the most important person to him. IMHO (don't bash me).

 

Just like that I believe that NS will always have ENOUGH. But then there is a second option - the movie might go ahead and try to destroy the very essence of NS by denying some of the moments, making Hinata mimic Sakura or by stating openly that Naruto never really loved Sakura.

And then there will be war. It will be an insult of a century. That won't make me jump ship, but it will make me deny Naruto as a universe at all.

 

There is a song that talks about NS perfectly. It shows an imperfection of the girl and deep unchanging eternal love of the man, who has to suffer from her sometimes, but will never stop loving her. It is actually a cover on the Beatles song "Girl" by Chris De Burgh -

My heart cries for NS every time I listen to this song, it is like a Naruto POV for me.  


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:37 PM

It's like naruto's life in 700 is like the song whiskey lullaby.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:38 PM

Hey, just a thought, would you guys jump ship if NH was properly done/justified in the movie? Or if NS got closure? (Those who are watching it anyway.) 
 
I would love to hear your opinions.

I wish I can write more to it, but I will say no because the story never told me to support Hinata over the protagonist, never told me that this is real love, never told me that this is all it takes to love, never told me a movie is canon and only needs it to justify love, never told me that it's consistent, and never told me it's been planned.

In short, no.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:45 PM

In a manga where flashbacks are constant, you know it's bs when they put flashbacks in a movie that were never in the manga.

It's so crazy how bs this is.

Has a action series ever done a movie just about romance?

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:52 PM

 
Personally, I would never ship NH even if it was 'done well.' Entirely because Hinata's character is entirely one-dimensional. I can't ship something if the character doesn't appeal to me. 
 
Although, I've saw many people claim that they were willing to give NH a try, or that they've suddenly accepted it to be their OTP once that movie trailer/ending came out. 


Some people just like the idea of being on a 'winning' team.
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Posted 18 November 2014 - 01:27 PM

Hey, just a thought, would you guys jump ship if NH was properly done/justified in the movie? Or if NS got closure? (Those who are watching it anyway.) 

 

I would love to hear your opinions.

NO!

Ugh even if I accepted NH as the end pairing and that I can look at it without wanting to vomit, I still hate Hinata to no end. Also even if Kishi tries to force NH on us and to force us to believe how beautiful it is. I'll never be part of it. I'll still see NH as a creepy and awkward relationship in which both parties don't match because their personnalities are too opposites. Hinata is supposed to be cute, but her personnality makes her and her relationship with Naruto creepy.... Just like in the Rock Lee SP episode "I only have eyes for you". 


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 02:01 PM

 

:facepalm: and there we have it a woman that is openly up to a abusive relationship the message this is sending across the world smh. It only when they have there faces bashed by a man they start to use they brain and scream abuse.

Let people like what they like. Now you're going to bash Sakura's seiyuu for being ok with the ending?
 

Some of you need to cool off. It's already been a few weeks.



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Posted 18 November 2014 - 02:06 PM

Let people like what they like. Now you're going to bash Sakura's seiyuu for being ok with the ending?
 
Some of you need to cool off. It's already been a few weeks.


She only thanked Kishi for his hard work, she never said anything about liking the ending.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 02:14 PM

She only thanked Kishi for his hard work, she never said anything about liking the ending.



It wouldn't be surprising though, as she is a SS fan

Its different with Junko (Naruto's seiyuu) though she is a NS fan, i guess she didn't liked the ending very much. But ...work is work

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