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[Branden]

they must be thinking like sawyer who said Kushina should be revive and tell Naruto" to find a woman like his father ".

In Sawyer's defense he said that the only way he could see this NS moment being reversed is if Kushina were to come back and tell Naruto to instead find someone like his father. Please try not to manipulate people's words, it's unhealthy.

[Mistraal]

True but don't take the hate on Kushina...

Indeed. Sigh.

Just forget them. It's really not worth expending energy on people like that.

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[Slextrem]

True but don't take the hate on Kushina...

Really, there shouldn't be any hate towards neither Sakura nor Kushina for this. Their parallel was obvious from the get-go. People really shouldn't blame the characters for their own misinterpretation of events. That's what happens when you try to bend things to suit your tastes. It will eventually snap back in your face. It happened with the parallel and it will happen with Naruto's girlfriend comment, which they've decided to bend around as well.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just forget them. It's really not worth expending energy on people like that.

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You're right. Just tired.

Really, there shouldn't be any hate towards neither Sakura nor Kushina for this. Their parallel was obvious from the get-go. People really shouldn't blame the characters for their own misinterpretation of events. That's what happens when you try to bend things to suit your tastes. It will eventually snap back in your face. It happened with the parallel and it will happen with Naruto's girlfriend comment, which they've decided to bend around as well.

Yeah, I agree. It's a stretch that they said it's an asspull. I'm not going to bother. But yeah, you're right.

[soraandven]

sigh... nh fans keep saying were biased since we thought chapter 615 was more platonic rather then romantic to me it was platonic since kurama helped him out to http://www.mangahere...60/c615/13.html mangastream translated kurama's talk so harshly i love it lol

Edited by soraandven, 24 May 2013 - 08:14 AM.

[Branden]

sigh... nh fans keep saying were biased since we thought chapter 615 was more platonic rather then romantic to me it was platonic since kurama helped him out to

This is what actually happened in 615.


Naruto was only holding Hinata's hand for a few seconds to give her chakra. And his recovery was a 3 step process.

First it was Hinata breaking Naruto out of the depression, then it was Kurama explaining why he's fighting, and then Naruto himself fully realizing what he's fighting for.
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See what I did there? I used my opinion to spin the chapter so that it supports my own personal views. The difference between 615 and 631 is that you can't spin it.
No matter how much you try to speculate, Minato still made the direct comparison between Sakura and Kushina. He had a smile on his face, and was happy to see Naruto with a girl like his mother. That is why this chapter is so important. It stopped the debates. Kushina and Minato both support NaruSaku, and that is the revelation that every pairing has been either expecting or dreading since Kushina first gave her advice.

EDIT: I wonder how many posts I have to edit because of typos? A lot apparently.

Edited by Branden, 24 May 2013 - 08:23 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

sigh... nh fans keep saying were biased since we thought chapter 615 was more platonic rather then romantic to me it was platonic since kurama helped him out to

Before sleep time...

Ok, here's my defense. I have said that chapter is a NH moment, but in level of friendship. Here's why. Naruto was being helped by Hinata and Kuruma, with the start of fire by Neji. She filled in for Neji because he died before saying anything more. Not only that, but Hinata puts her mind about the whole never giving up. Naruto now acknowledged that everyone are one and they will fight to the end. Naruto grabs her hand for symbolism of equal and trust. It's not exclusive to Hinata. The only part that is if you want to call it that is her comment about his hand. Naruto hasn't crack a smile until he's hyped to take out the enemy. The follow-up 616 didn't continue off for NH to be really romance hint.

Here's the problem, that chapter, Naruto was on his own world thinking what to do next and it was all about him getting the idea of sacrifice and friends/family. So, the buildup from 615 was to establish that Naruto is never alone and in 617, it's pretty much saying that all of them are one, especially the shot with him standing in front of thousand people. Then it ends.

This volume all began with never giving up, but this time, Sakura is getting the most of it. It is about her concern on Naruto. Naruto was getting exhausted, but he didn't want to give up and if you noticed, Sakura got two reaction shots, because she understood what Naruto truly meant with those words. Everyone believed they knew what he meant. Then, in the next chapter, everyone was ready to defend him as Sakura wants to help him. The next chapter, hopes are lost because Juubi was going to end it with one blast, but Sakura didn't like what she was seeing because this is not how Naruto wanted to see it end. She basically described the real truth behind his words and everyone are motivated, showing you how much she knows deeply. Now, 631 was this chapter 616, only a successful one.

First of all, Minato asked her, repeat her, if she's Naruto's girlfriend. This is pure blunt and you can't twist the words at all. This is pure romance question and the funny part is that Naruto said yes. Why would he say yes? Because he loves her and pretty much saying that this is true, yet Sakura didn't deny it. If you ask me, she was frustrated that he kept talking with "Ummm" and "uhhh" and so on. Minato was smiling all the way, because he approved it and know that the relationship is how his was with Kushina. Minato saw her as another Kushina, which people denied parallel exists. Well now, it bit them back hard. Not to mention, the fact Kushina wants Naruto to find the girl the same as her. The part with Naruto not mentioning his love way back makes sense for not showing up because it will be Minato to seal the approval. Lastly, Minato pretty much let Sakura to take care of him, especially after the war.

I don't need to go over the later scene, but a quick rundown. Many people think Sakura only become relevant when Sasuke is there since her character is all about him. Not true. While he is important to her, that's not to say she can't develop. In fact, Sasuke and her development only leads to the end of them. So, where are her developments coming from? Naruto. She was motivated by him and she helped him to recover. Naruto cares for her, so he wants her to be safe by staying back. However, Sakura determined to fight along with him with a bonus of Sasuke, and Naruto was concerned. When he saw her eyes, he realized that she is truly serious and he smiled in a way only she can give, thus, Team 7 is back (for now).

This volume is favoring Naruto because it's like his relationships' developments are getting close to closure such as Sasuke getting close to be 100% good and Sakura being with Naruto's side at all time like a lover. He's near to that dream/goal and he couldn't be more happier.

[Chatte]

As much as I want to believe the sage mode theory, the Toad Sage Fukasaku clearly stated that it was a technique that only Naruto and Jiraiya could have done because of their large chakra supply. I guess Sakura could have a large chakra supply, I don't think we've ever had anyone say otherwise so it's possible.

About that...I'm gonna quote myself, lol.

As for Sage Mode, if you have noticed, both Manda and Gamabunta ask something in return for contract. Manda corpses/souls, Gamabunta the blood and big chakra reserves. Therefore, their respective Sage Mode have those requirements.
Whereas with Katsuyu, the Slug, we've never seen details about how you make a contract with the slugs, what are the requirements, so on and so forth. And, on the contrary, she seems to be obeying Tsunade and even serve her out of nothing.
So if the Slugs do have a Sage Mode, they might offer all for nothing, therefore, Sakura, would be able to learn it.

[Mistraal]

About that...I'm gonna quote myself, lol.

As for Sage Mode, if you have noticed, both Manda and Gamabunta ask something in return for contract. Manda corpses/souls, Gamabunta the blood and big chakra reserves. Therefore, their respective Sage Mode have those requirements.
Whereas with Katsuyu, the Slug, we've never seen details about how you make a contract with the slugs, what are the requirements, so on and so forth. And, on the contrary, she seems to be obeying Tsunade and even serve her out of nothing.
So if the Slugs do have a Sage Mode, they might offer all for nothing, therefore, Sakura, would be able to learn it.

Katsuyu is also strangely respectful of Tsunade. The other animal summons are pretty belligerent. It's almost like the slugs act like they owe Tsunade something - not the other way around. Never figured out why.

[Pink Chidori]

Oh my god! Kishi you did it! I'm so happy!
He must have read my wish in the 630 thread! xD I was hoping against hope he'd let
my Sakura-chan fight, and YES! She's got power stocked up!

AHHHHHHH YES!

Sakura=Kushina parallel as well?!


Then my SAUCE showed up!
*hyperventilates*
TEAM 7 REUNION FIGHT!
IT'S HERE!

Edited by Pink Chidori, 24 May 2013 - 08:56 AM.

[Chatte]

Katsuyu is also strangely respectful of Tsunade. The other animal summons are pretty belligerent. It's almost like the slugs act like they owe Tsunade something - not the other way around. Never figured out why.

Exactly! In Pein Arc Tsunade was like DO THIS DO THAT, being very fierce yet Katsuyu totally obeyed her. If it were Gamabunta or Manda, we know what would have happened.

[HauntedCake]

I really hope sakura will get a power-up to at least equal Naruto's sage mode.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I really hope sakura will get a power-up to at least equal Naruto's sage mode.

In terms of power level or same mode, except being the slug? Either way, it's funny that she is about to one-up over K9, which means she stands out. We have to wait and see.

[Pink Chidori]

I really hope sakura will get a power-up to at least equal Naruto's sage mode.

This! Sakura-chan, show those boys what you're really made of!

[Chatte]

Well in terms of puches, she has it. She just have to get over to top with other stuff.

[Pink Chidori]

Well in terms of puches, she has it. She just have to get over to top with other stuff.

Kishi has really been surprising me so far, and I feel like this is only the beginning. I've read some of your theories on Sakura, and they had me excited for a Sakura power up. Now that the moment has finally arrived, I'm on the edge of my seat!

[HauntedCake]

I hope she punches sasuke real hard for hurting her Naruto

[Mistraal]

Exactly! In Pein Arc Tsunade was like DO THIS DO THAT, being very fierce yet Katsuyu totally obeyed her. If it were Gamabunta or Manda, we know what would have happened.

It's entirely possible Tsunade could have just asked the slugs to take Sakura as a pupil. That would actually be a pretty awesome explanation. Have a flashback to where she's still Part 1 Sakura and they are in the Slug Forest.

Sounds awesome.

[Pink Chidori]

I hope she punches sasuke real hard for hurting her Naruto

I love my Sauce, but someone does need to smack him, but not just for Naruto, but for the grief he's caused everyone who cared about him. I am glad Kishi chose not to have everything just be forgiven and forgotten just like that, especially with how quick the chapter went, and I'll trust Kishi will handle this situation well.

Edited by Pink Chidori, 24 May 2013 - 09:09 AM.

[Chatte]

Kishi has really been surprising me so far, and I feel like this is only the beginning. I've read some of your theories on Sakura, and they had me excited for a Sakura power up. Now that the moment has finally arrived, I'm on the edge of my seat!

Imagine me that I created them and almost everyone called me a crazy fangirl.
And then this. BOOM!
I'm like " I beep beep beep told yoou!"
Now it's your turn to watch my back, kitteniz! Mwuhahaha!

It's entirely possible Tsunade could have just asked the slugs to take Sakura as a pupil. That would actually be a pretty awesome explanation. Have a flashback to where she's still Part 1 Sakura and they are in the Slug Forest.

Sounds awesome.

OMG, I'd die if that happens!

Edited by Chatte, 24 May 2013 - 09:20 AM.