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[narulsaku]

 
No there is no evidence that shows that the Sharingan improves the body, in fact it seems to be taxing on the body especially the Mangekyo Sharingan. the Sharingan's primary ability is sight based, and with the Mangekyo Ninjutsu like Amaterasu, Enton: Kagutsuchi and Kamui are all shown being based on the eye, why would it be any different for Genjutsu?

ohh did u forget what happened during the fight between naruto and sasuke when sasuke left the village. One tomoe increased in sasukes sharingan making him more faster and stronger . Before that he could barely see naruto after getting 3 tomoes he could not just douge him but also hit him. That can be an evidience cant it be?
And also u said user can perform ninjutsu by the eye!how can that be possible?

I think the eye also allow the user to make enough amaount of chakraflow by which he or she can do the technique of that huge chakra. So it can boost the body.

ps: If i domt sound clear i am sorry i am just having some problem with expressing myself

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That's the effect from the curse seal, not from sharingan.

[Superman333]

as inferno gave that long post there are many evidience in that so yes NS IS THE END PAIRING . There r already many evidience

I already know. 

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Naruto show/thought/say/imply that he still love sakura will practically end this so called pairing war.

[咲耶姫]

Naruto show/thought/say/imply that he still love sakura will practically end this so called pairing war.

Isn't it what he did in chapter 631? And do you see an end to this war? Everyone one was saying that when Naruto would show he still loves her, then NS would win, and I'm also talking about NH and SS fans, yes they were also saying this. But when it actually came true, then they are gone in denial mode and twisted what actually happened. So now I'm sure, even if Naruto implied his love one more time, there will still be denial and the war will still going on. This war won't end until the very end. 

 

To be honest, there was a time I also thought this arc was more inclined towards NH/SS, but since chapter 631, everything is pointing towards NS, and especially when it comes to Sakura's feelings, since the beggining of the war arc, she's depicted as someone who is falling out of love (chapter 541, 634, 635 and the fact that she doesn't think about his well being, but about Naruto's one)

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Well this "pairing" war will never end even after NS become canon, have (cute)children and this manga end with it. I mean look at ichigo 100%.

naruto show that he still love sakura will become our best weapon againt the naruto doesn't love sakura argument. Which I found very annoying.

I think Chapter 631 is just a warming up, there're more to come. And kishi know no mercy.

[soraandven]

hey guys just thought id post this vid tl made about sakura's fake smile 

[natalieuciha]

I wish people stop posting stuff like this on NS feed.

First of all thats a fraud because naruto did cried shortly after Yamato told him that.thats episode 46 i think.idk about the manga but in the anime he did shed tears.unfortunately im not able to post pics to confirm this cause im on my phone

[Chatte]

It even feels that with Sakura not trusting Sasuke will lead to something else for her getting over her love of him. I mean sakura isnt just going to fall in love on the spot, but there will be some important interaction between her and naruto before the fight with sasuke, i can see this occuring as highly potential. But hey, as dumb as it sounds, Sakura discovering naruto made the forehead compliment may be a turning point if it ever comes up.

About that, I am just gonna copy something I wrote on Tumblr in correlation with the whole love aspect and Japanese culture and how they seem to be portrayed in different series [tv shows, manga, yadda yadda]

 

Oh, also forgot to write about Heroes. So I started watching Heroes and just finished second season. So, during the second season, Hiro Nakamura’s story with Yaiko or whatever the name is [can’t remember it, lol], the swordsmith’s daughter is so similar to NaruSaku’s story that I can’t stress enough.

So, she supposedly loves Takezo Kensei guy because he is so cool and saves people and whatnot. But behind all those actions it’s Hiro… Only that he’s wearing Takezo’s costume so she can’t see his face.

And at a certain time, under the cherry blossoms, Hiro, costumed as Takezo makes the cherry blossoms fall and she is so impressed by that and she thinks it’s the real Takezo.[this scene is very similar to NS transformed Naruto into Sasuke]

So she’s supposedly in love with him while getting closer and closer to Hiro, not knowing that he was the one costumed in Takezo Kensei and did that beautiful thing for her.

Anyway, short-story long, while they get closer and although she supposedly loves the real Takezo Kensei, she realizes at a certain point that it was Hiro’s doing that he was behind the mask that did all those beautiful things under the cherry blossoms tree and she says that all those things she loved in Takezo were actually coming from him [Hiro], so she realizes that the one she was actually in love with all the time was Takezo Kensei - Hiro.

I swear to God, it’s so similar to NaruSaku’s story. The only difference is that, well, at some point the real Takezo falls in love with her and from where a whole revenge quest on Hiro starts, though it’s not Hiro’s fault.

But anyway, the idea is that the scenario is so similar to NaruSaku’s one that I wonder if Kishi will play the same route. It seems to be a common story-telling in Japanese culture when it comes to love.

Oh, and by the way, Kanojo was used and guess how it was translated? Lover. *wink wink*

If you have the chance, definitely check it out!

[Inferno180]

At this point to me, it seems like pairing wars in naruto have practically hit the point in which avatar the last airbender did for signifying which were the end pairings.

Many people loved zutara but this ship was not only the most fan supported, it was literally one in which the writers absolutely sank it to hell.

Unlike the manga team and Kishi in naruto the avatar writers were both aware and constantly poking fun at all fanbases in short periods for their series. Kishi didn't go out of his way to do this the avatar creators did. Kishi doesn't torment ns, nh, or SS. Avatars writers did torment aangtara, zukmai, and zutara along with others involving mainly sokka. But in the end, it was aangtara and zukmai. Yet most people supported zutara, but it had so many plot holes.

Both were enemies at first, this was the first problem. They would need to get past this critical first stage.
The time it took zuko to go fully good was 5/6th of the entire series, this is literally so late that it rendered zutara with very limited room to grow especially since both aangtara and zukmai already had a lot of their own growth, this is a problem nh faces in having limited time and SS faces having sakura distrust Sasuke.
When zuko went good, katara hated him, it was only until episode 56, she forgave him, but this was 2 episodes from the finale, people honestly expected katara to just sideline everything with aang. Even when zuko and katara worked together in the finale, it didn't make any difference, those past developments could not be sidelined. Some people in the naruto universe expect Sasuke to love sakura out of nowhere or sakura to still love Sasuke despite all the junk he pulled and ignore how she isn't trusting him.

Literally this is why I say nh and SS need to beware zutara, though the ships are of vastly different franchises, if the plot development hadn't followed a path to allow the pairing, then it's only much harder for those pairings to come.

The final result of zutara was an overkill. First came the ember island players episode, then came the DVD extras saying they couldn't follow or stand it, how aang would feel kinda cheated, then came comic con 08 where they grounded the ever living fan love out of it with an fan artwork show, then came the grand finale of overkill, the legend of korra with aangtara having children. Now zutara is literally only living in fanfiction and it's nothing but a scrapped wreck at the bottom of the sea. And people today still argue why zutara should have happened despite the fact the story would not have allowed it or fit well for it.

This is why I feel nh and SS should beware, otherwise it will only be the same sequence again. 631 was only small scale nightmare compared to what these fans felt back during the original avatar series ending.

Edited by Inferno180, 14 December 2013 - 02:59 PM.

[narulsaku]

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That's the effect from the curse seal, not from sharingan.

as far as i remember sasukes sharingan first evolved then he was able to catch narutos speed and hit him but when naruto transformed in to bijju mode u know the shiny orange mode then sasukes curse seal was activated

[Canadian_DJ]

 
Oh definitely studio perriot. Keep in mind that this is a japanese animation company that borderline bashes sakura and make hinata a Mary sue. 

I'm sorry but just because studio peirrot makes fillers for hinata doesn't mean they bash Sakura. Since when? And how the he'll is shieusa (or whatever it's called) pro hinata? Lol

Sakura fans are more than hinata fans in Japan. And elsewhere

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I'm sorry but just because studio peirrot makes fillers for hinata doesn't mean they bash Sakura. Since when? And how the he'll is shieusa (or whatever it's called) pro hinata? Lol

Sakura fans are more than hinata fans in Japan. And elsewhere

 

I wouldn't say Pierrot necessarily tries to bash Sakura, but there were many times where they over exaggerated her aggressiveness and overall tended to portray her as a more severe form of tsundere than the manga shows her to be, but then again they also made Naruto often more clueless and dim-witted than he actually is. I think it's more the tendency of anime to exaggerate character stereotypes than intentional bashing.

[Hanabi]

not exactly 'bash', but you can see the difference in treatment.

Edited by Hanabi, 14 December 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

not exactly 'bash', but you can see the difference in treatment.

 

Yeah, there is definitely a favoritism for Hinata in the anime studio, and they really don't try to hide it.

[Inferno180]

The deal with the anime in General is actually how when it comes to things like naruto being dumb, sakura having a temper, and hinata being overly shy, the anime team takes it up to eleven.

They make naruto dumber, sakura have more whack naruto events, and hinata have things that make people go crazy over her.

But it's a bad trait, cause we know naruto is smarter than the anime portays, we know sakura isn't all mean as many haters say, and hinata isn't on such a pedistal as the studio makes it.

Really aside from the anime, I think some bad stuff was actually the translated stuff from viz like mainly over the Kushina find someone like your mother but in the eng translation they put in don't fall for the first who comes your way. Now I don't know how to view this but if the viz translators really really thought this was going to hinata and put it like that, they just proved they were as lost as many other people when 631 came around. If 631s viz translation drew debates over the dumb girlfriend arguement many put, this is seriously a problem if even viz cannot follow a simple foreshadow, it's like seriously how hard is it to see sakura and Kushina as alike?

Going back to perriot, yeah it's a mess. This is why when 615 rolls around in the anime, I swear, if they extend the episode of fillers and just throw in hinata flashbacks of how hard she strived for naruto, this seriously just proves neji was killed for no good reason, rather it ruins the whole purpose of his sacrifice making it seem like instead of neji dying and we should be sad, it would be "oh look more at hinata and how hard she works, let's forget about neji, an actual well developed character just so hinata could hold narutos hand" this would make me puke 3x as much as the 166 filler did. It's simple, neji dies, naruto goes into despair, hinata slaps him, gets a pep talk from hinata and kurama, the. The hand hold comes, then ends after the power transfer, simple short, done. We don't need memories of hinata striving, rather memories of neji is okay here because he just died. If neji seriously goes to the background after 5 mins, my respect of hinata would just sink, I find her a decent character but for her to be portrayed as nothing else if this as described, I'd literally be dumbfounded as to how could people honestly just even imagine nh coming if perriot drags an episode out focused on hinata when it should be on neji if anyone? I mean we got episodes on asuma, jiriaya, itachi, minato with Kushina, and so on when they died, so why would perriot even think of putting hinata on another filler pedistal when this is Neji's last moment in the manga. This would literally make it seem like a we don't care about neji episode, seriously it would. I don't dread the 615 anime episode next year for hinata fillers, I dread it because it would literally make neji the least important character despite him having so much more development and importantance to the manga.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I really hope that when it does come time for 615, if there is any filler, that it will revolve around Neji, and hopefully make his death a bit more meaningful and impactful than it was in the manga. I really would like Pierrot to show some good sense of storytelling and not make the whole thing centered on Naruto and Hinata, romantically or otherwise to cater their Hinata favoritism or for fan service, but I don't really know what to expect.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 14 December 2013 - 05:32 PM.

[Hanabi]

i think we need to accept there will definitely be fillers on hinata. like that high budget pain episode.. sure was painful to look at.

[TouKen4Life3g]

One last hurdle. 615 animated. We can do this.

[Inferno180]

This is why 615 can be done as should, following the manga, or it can become an overextended mess like 166. Really worst of all is when perriot puts so much emphasis on this stuff that's only filler, basically when 631 comes a couple weeks later next year, it's going to be yeah that stuff you saw with 615 really isn't as big a deal as you thought it was, naruto still loving sakura and sakura being like Kushina is kinda a big deal since it's linked to a preset foreshadow. The nh moment from615 really hasn't gone anywhere, sorry.