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[LuckyChi7]

Off-topic but if I'm not mistaken, OP and AoT new volumes release in the same week. You know what this means. The two tyrant is going to go all out on each other, seeing who will take first place.









Oh My God.

 

I think AoT's newest volume will go through the through the roof not because it's AoT obviously, but because of what went down during the volume and manga readers who read AoT manga from chapter 63-66 know what I'm talking about.

 

 

I'm not too particularly sure about what hapened with OP don't spoil me I'm still on chapter 716 but I'm guessing it's probably going to be a big one as well.  

[Narufan85]

Same here. I think it's for the better. There's only so much BS someone can take before going crazy. This kitten is so infuriating, to see 15 years worth of work get trashed for the sake of destructive and contradictory pairings.... I wouldn't touch it if I were you. If the preview is any indication, say goodbye to Sakura and Sasuke's characters!! 

 

It's just so disappointing. Sakura had shown such growth as an individual, and i really bought into Kishi's storyline that she was willing to stand on her own two feet and fight alongside Naruto against Sasuke. But no, this novel is going to turn her into some overly emotional piece of garbage.

[Nar123]

 

I think AoT's newest volume will go through the through the roof not because it's AoT obviously, but because of what went down during the volume and manga readers who read AoT manga from chapter 63-66 know what I'm talking about.

 

 

I'm not too particularly sure about what hapened with OP don't spoil me I'm still on chapter 716 but I'm guessing it's probably going to be a big one as well.  

 

I think OP gets this one.

[rocci]

I find this story about kishi's life to be sad even if i don't like what he did to his own work. Him mentioning about his love life for a short time really does make him into a loser could this be the reason why he made all pairings into a possibility since he couldn't get the first girl he likes?
 

I can't see the picture, is that an interview or something?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Correction: AoT volume is 6 days later from One Piece.

But holy crap, April is going to be attack on Titan. PUN INTENDED!

[Nar123]

I can't see the picture, is that an interview or something?

 

Its an excerpt from the manga in which kishimoto tells about his life in high school, his first try on mangas and how they all failed because he lacked talent.

 

I will say this now, Kishimoto greatest luck was meeting with Yahagi, seriously

The guy still has no talent, even today

[rocci]

 
Its an excerpt from the manga in which kishimoto tells about his life in high school, his first try on mangas and how they all failed because he lacked talent.
 
I will say this now, Kishimoto greatest luck was meeting with Yahagi, seriously
The guy still has no talent, even today

Is there any story about his love life, because it seem that picture take from author note in volume release. As long as I remember, kishi never talk about his love life in the author note.

The only talent he has is art. And that's it.

[luffyq1]

Author gave greenlight to Rtn
tfw RtN canon then

they're canon, and even if people don't like it, it does connect to the shoujo story that this series has become.
 

[harry4e]

Is that worse than troll?

 

Kubo was the ultimate troll, to give you an idea of his level of trolling, he told Ichigo that everything that had happened up until then had been something he staged, his entire life was all staged by him.

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-396.html

 

 

Fans started to get tired of his trolling at this point as well and the popularity suffered and it soon got knocked out of the Monster three club, Even when the trolling decreased the popularity never recovered, though for some reason this was also around the time Kishi started trolling his fanbase...it makes you wonder if this was due to one of the editors from Bleach getting assigned to Kishi. I really don't understand the reason why mangaka's troll their fans so much, it does not benifit them at all, Bleachs popularity suffered because of it, Naruto's popularity also suffered even Fairy Tail popularity has suffered because the mangaka has the habit of ending on a cliffhanger only to dissapoint the following week.

 

I remember a comic strip when the war arc was going to start, I remember laughing at the time because I thought it was funny, and now it makes me want to cry because it turned out to what Kishi did in the end....if only he looked at Oda-sensie and not troll his fanbase.

 

http://lauraneato.de...86328191?q=&qo=

 

 

Its not, not even made by kishi

 

If anyone wants to argue about the non-canon status of the novels , show them this

 

http://cheridori.tum...-the-novels-and

 

 

So RtN is more canon than the Last then? Because RtN was Kishi's story, he came up with the idea, the plot, setting etc, (atleast I've not read anything contradicting this) where Kishi admitted he didn't write the Last story he was responsible for the charactor design and tweaking story to make sure it fit into his story, atleast that is what I understood from his interviews.

[Nar123]

they're canon, and even if people don't like it, it does connect to the shoujo story that this series has become.
 

 

the novels are not canon bruh.

Kishimoto is a hack but he is not involved on the writing process of these novels 

 

 

Is there any story about his love life, because it seem that picture take from author note in volume release. As long as I remember, kishi never talk about his love life in the author note.

The only talent he has is art. And that's it.

 

He talks about his love life there too,he says it was a fail (lol)

[luffyq1]

This momment always gets me (in manga and anime)!
 

 

[Nar123]

 

So RtN is more canon than the Last then? Because RtN was Kishi's story, he came up with the idea, the plot, setting etc, (atleast I've not read anything contradicting this) where Kishi admitted he didn't write the Last story he was responsible for the charactor design and tweaking story to make sure it fit into his story, atleast that is what I understood from his interviews.

 

Kishi was involved in RTN but it wasn't canon. 

For something to be canon Kishi needs to be involved on the process of writing and acknowledge it as canon, like he did with the last.

[luffyq1]

 

the novels are not canon bruh.

Kishimoto is a hack but he is not involved on the writing process of these novels 

 

 

 

He talks about his love life there too,he says it was a fail (lol)

they are using canon chapters and the last which included the nh wedding into the novels. it basically tells us how the events came to be, with lots of retcons. 

[harry4e]

 

Kishi was involved in RTN but it wasn't canon. 

For something to be canon Kishi needs to be involved on the process of writing and acknowledge it as canon, like he did with the last.

 

Yeah but that's the confusing part, Kishi came up with the idea for RtN, he created the plot, the AU version of the charactors, and their designs, but said it wasn't canon so it wasn't canon, Kishi didn't write The Last, he just approved it, he's said it in his interviews he didn't know how to write NH, so he let SP do it. So by that argument RtN is closer to canon than the actual story that is considered canon.

 

It's one of the many sticking points of the end, all this content that's being considered canon is not even written by Kishi.

[Nar123]

they are using canon chapters and the last which included the nh wedding into the novels. it basically tells us how the events came to be, with lots of retcons. 

 

Doesn't really matter, one thing is only canon if the author is participating on it and considers it so. 

If Kishi's lazy enough not to even do it's not my fault

 

The novels have some pretty stupid inconsistencies.

LIke Kakashi novel hapenning only a few months after the end of the war, while Sasuke was already travelling

Shikamaru novel saying Sasuke stayed 1 year in the village before travelling

And KIshi's worlds saying Sasuke couldn't possibly stay in the village at the time because he felt unworthy

 

So really, it makes no sense

Not canon

[Nar123]

 

Yeah but that's the confusing part, Kishi came up with the idea for RtN, he created the plot, the AU version of the charactors, and their designs, but said it wasn't canon so it wasn't canon, Kishi didn't write The Last, he just approved it, he's said it in his interviews he didn't know how to write NH, so he let SP do it. So by that argument RtN is closer to canon than the actual story that is considered canon.

 

It's one of the many sticking points of the end, all this content that's being considered canon is not even written by Kishi.

 

The last idea came from SP/SJW but this doesnt really matter

What matters is that Kishi was part of the last's writing team (in name only maybe) but he's there. That scarf BS was his idea for example and he said he was involved in the Naruto "rivalry" scene, and he considers that kitten of a movie as 699.5. That's enough for it to be canon tho.

 

But as you said since Kishi is lazy/doesnt care,so a lot of continuity and retcons mistakes were made in the last

RTN also has a lot of conitnuity mistakes but it doesnt really matter since its filler

Edited by Nar123, 23 March 2015 - 02:27 PM.

[rocci]

Rtn is kishi creation.
It replace the intend movie that become a filler called chikara filler.

But Rtn is not canon.

[AHK]

A few things:
Sakura remembers the touch of Sasuke's fingers on her forehead. (lol)
Claims she was able to have faith in him while he was a rogue ninja because of his "Thank You" (from part 1)

  
She's so god damn disgusting now, I can't even recognize her. I haven't even been able to recognize her for a long time now. Faith in him? You mean she had faith in him when tried to kill him? Or when she lied to Sai with that fake smile? Or when she kept doubting him during the war? Or did she have faith in her ability to use Naruto so she could bring him back? Sorry, your heart isn't warm because of Sasuke's words, it's still warm from the time he tried to stick that Chidori through your heart. Lightning is hot, you know.

Same here. I think it's for the better. There's only so much BS someone can take before going crazy. This kitten is so infuriating, to see 15 years worth of work get trashed for the sake of destructive and contradictory pairings.... I wouldn't touch it if I were you. If the preview is any indication, say goodbye to Sakura and Sasuke's characters!!

Yeah, this kitten is so maddening. Seeing one of my favorite heroines get absolutely destroyed is beyond infuriating. She went from one of my favorites ever to being the most revolting pieces of trash ive ever seen in my life. All this time she's been a waste of damn ink, that's what this ending meant.

they are using canon chapters and the last which included the nh wedding into the novels. it basically tells us how the events came to be, with lots of retcons.

They're not part of the original source material so they're not canon. It's like all those extra Star Wars things.

[luffyq1]

Doesn't really matter, one thing is only canon if the author is participating on it and considers it so. 
If Kishi's lazy enough not to even do it's not my fault

you think kishi was participating with episode 166, and sp or whoever it was actually made hinata getting bullied because of her eyes be canon? kishi wasn't involved in 166, but it played a big part in the last.
 

The novels have some pretty stupid inconsistencies.
LIke Kakashi novel hapenning only a few months after the end of the war, while Sasuke was already travelling
Shikamaru novel saying Sasuke stayed 1 year in the village before travelling
And KIshi's worlds saying Sasuke couldn't possibly stay in the village at the time because he felt unworthy

lol inconsistencies are everywhere. it's how many terrible things have happened in this series.
 

So really, it makes no sense
Not canon

it is canon. this is naruto we are talking about here, it doesn't have to make sense. almost everything is being retconned.

[Advaith]

Full translation of the prologue ( From NF, not from me)

Warning: Use of flowery language. General mushy SS:



 

 

Pathetic,disgusting bucket of kitten.