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[Shashank95]

I don't understand why everyone keeps on telling Kishimoto is trolling pairings fans. I don't even think he's aware of the War he's creating in the Western country. He's probably just writing while thinking about his story and what he wants to transfer to his Japanese audience. And Japanese fan don't even see an NH possibility. That pairing is just for fun there; there is no Pairing War in Japan. Or at least, NH is a minor couple. 
 
All those troll moments are just misinterpretations from NH/SS fans. For example, chapter 615, even if it was ambiguous for Naruto to take Hinata's hand if you don't look at the circumstances, it had just one purpose: chakra transfer, and even if NS and some neutrals fans were warning them about that purpose, they preferred speculate rather Hinata and Naruto were gonna do a combo attack or if Obito was gonna see Rin in Hinata at that time. That's why next chapter was called a troll; because they had too much hope on what was gonna follow the hand holding. 
 
It's the same thing with Obito/Tobi, too much speculation about complexes theories on who could be Obito, while it was clear as day that it was Obito, except some little details like chronology, but what matter is the plot like when Tobi was hinting he knew Kakashi. 
 
To sum up, I don't considerate Kishimoto as a troll. I just think fans got too much hope on their preferences. 
 
@ Branden: That's exactly what I think, and that's what I'm trying to say through this post. 

I guess you guys are right. It's mostly the western Fandom that are too serious abt Hinata and Naruhina. I haven't been In the Naruto fandom long enough to know who starts these wars. Oh well, let's just keep calm, fingers crossed and see what Kishi's mind can concoct up for us.

[natalieuciha]

I ignored my own advice and i went to nh filled forums,gosh i so regret that.i dont wanna bash but their hypocrisy gave me headaches.they even went as far as saying sakura is not a tsundere,just to disqualify the 631moment ,they continue to say its a joke.they disqualify every ns moment just so it could fit their convienience.so ive been wondering what kishimoto has to do to put an end to pairing wars?so it can be game over for them.cause im worried that if kishimoto doesnt make a big ns moment in the end like kissing,hugging and conffesing all togheter,they will say that nh happened off screen

[narulsaku]

I don't understand why everyone keeps on telling Kishimoto is trolling pairings fans. I don't even think he's aware of the War he's creating in the Western country. He's probably just writing while thinking about his story and what he wants to transfer to his Japanese audience. And Japanese fan don't even see an NH possibility. That pairing is just for fun there; there is no Pairing War in Japan. Or at least, NH is a minor couple. 

 

 

 

All those troll moments are just misinterpretations from NH/SS fans. For example, chapter 615, even if it was ambiguous for Naruto to take Hinata's hand if you don't look at the circumstances, it had just one purpose: chakra transfer, and even if NS and some neutrals fans were warning them about that purpose, they preferred speculate rather Hinata and Naruto were gonna do a combo attack or if Obito was gonna see Rin in Hinata at that time. That's why next chapter was called a troll; because they had too much hope on what was gonna follow the hand holding. 

 

[qoute]It's the same thing with Obito/Tobi, too much speculation about complexes theories on who could be Obito, while it was clear as day that it was Obito, except some little details like chronology, but what matter is the plot like when Tobi was hinting he knew Kakashi. 

 

To sum up, I don't considerate Kishimoto as a troll. I just think fans got too much hope on their preferences. 

 

@ Branden: That's exactly what I think, and that's what I'm trying to say through this post.[/quote]

 

 

ohhh i see. well i think that he knows about the war. i mean come on he is a writer. why not calling it trolling. its kinda same as trolling. 1st narusaku moment and then naruhina, tnen narusaku then naruhina, !!!!!! is that ok with u? not with me. 

@braden: yes i agree with u partially but still it means more or less pro naruhina

Edited by narulsaku, 10 December 2013 - 08:52 AM.

[Shashank95]

I ignored my own advice and i went to nh filled forums,gosh i so regret that.i dont wanna bash but their hypocrisy gave me headaches.they even went as far as saying sakura is not a tsundere,just to disqualify the 631moment ,they continue to say its a joke.they disqualify every ns moment just so it could fit their convienience.so ive been wondering what kishimoto has to do to put an end to pairing wars?so it can be game over for them.cause im worried that if kishimoto doesnt make a big ns moment in the end like kissing,hugging and conffesing all togheter,they will say that nh happened off screen

I know how you feel Natalie. Seriously some of the arguements the NH fans cross the boundaries of ignorance and stupidity. But saying Sakura is not a tsundere is just insulting. Her whole emotional dilemma is based around the fact that she is a tsundere and she has a hard time showing her true emotions. Some people are just too ignorant to see what's there. I agree with the need for a NS moment that layeth the Smack down on the pairing wars. God i hope Kishi delivers on our one request.

[咲耶姫]

 

 

 

 

 

[qoute]It's the same thing with Obito/Tobi, too much speculation about complexes theories on who could be Obito, while it was clear as day that it was Obito, except some little details like chronology, but what matter is the plot like when Tobi was hinting he knew Kakashi. 

 

To sum up, I don't considerate Kishimoto as a troll. I just think fans got too much hope on their preferences. 

 

@ Branden: That's exactly what I think, and that's what I'm trying to say through this post.[/quote]

 

 

ohhh i see. well i think that he knows about the war. i mean come on he is a writer. why not calling it trolling. its kinda same as trolling. 1st narusaku moment and then naruhina, tnen narusaku then naruhina, !!!!!! is that ok with u? not with me. 

@braden: yes i agree with u partially but still it means more or less pro naruhina

 

 

I disagree. i still think he desn't think about Western pairing war when he writes. And he doesn't write with Narusaku, Naruhina, Narusaku, Naruhina... You may have this impression since the war, but I think it's just to conclude Hinata's character. Before the War he never did this, you only saw Hinata 2 times in part 2: when they meet for the first time since he left and during the confession, so no, he didn't do the NS, NH, NS, NH thing at that time. 

And do you really think pairing war outside of Japan is the first thing a mangaka care regarding his work?

Plus, during this war, there was only 2 real NH moments, when he comforts her, and the handholding. How can you call that playing with pairing? I prefer calling it character's conclusion for Hinata. 

The only thing that I do find confusing is Kiba's comment at the alliance's arrival. 

 

 

[Shashank95]

Who knows what goes on in Kishi's head, like i said let's just keep calm and keep shipping Narusaku

[Luna]

I ignored my own advice and i went to nh filled forums,gosh i so regret that.i dont wanna bash but their hypocrisy gave me headaches.they even went as far as saying sakura is not a tsundere,just to disqualify the 631moment ,they continue to say its a joke.they disqualify every ns moment just so it could fit their convienience.so ive been wondering what kishimoto has to do to put an end to pairing wars?so it can be game over for them.cause im worried that if kishimoto doesnt make a big ns moment in the end like kissing,hugging and conffesing all togheter,they will say that nh happened off screen

I warned you. LOL  Just don't listen to NH. For me when Harry x Hermione didn't happen I was in a bit of denial and made up things in my head ANYWAYS that's the past. They have to do these things to make themselves feel better. Instead of talking about pairings they eventually go off-track and talk about how the character looks or their personality or how they can't cook and a lot of foolishness. Searching for facts pertaining to NH is like searching for a needle in a haystack. With NS now we don't have to make up things to make ourselves feel better cause we have solid facts like the Minato Girlfriend comment or the Hints at Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Where are the Hints for Naruto's feelings for hinata?  I wouldn't be surprised if NH are writing a Christmas list   for santa. "I want NH to happen for Xmas!" Anyways, don't do yourself any more harm by reading NH comments or opinions or hateful comments cause we are better than that.

[Shashank95]

^ the truth. You're right Baka chan, reading those arguements and comments really puts you down. They have a way of getting under your skin. Now i stay as far away as possible from anything related to NH

[Hanabi]

does anyone feel rin's death was selfish? i know she had to die that way for plot purposes like the sharingan upgrade / to make obito insane.. but she could have killed herself with her kunai.. no need to traumatize kakashi that way..

 

@natalieuciha: you asked about the similarities between mikoto and sakura right? I found a panel of her that looks the same as sakura's.

Edited by Hanabi, 10 December 2013 - 03:20 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I warned you. LOL  Just don't listen to NH. For me when Harry x Hermione didn't happen I was in a bit of denial and made up things in my head ANYWAYS that's the past. They have to do these things to make themselves feel better. Instead of talking about pairings they eventually go off-track and talk about how the character looks or their personality or how they can't cook and a lot of foolishness. Searching for facts pertaining to NH is like searching for a needle in a haystack. With NS now we don't have to make up things to make ourselves feel better cause we have solid facts like the Minato Girlfriend comment or the Hints at Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Where are the Hints for Naruto's feelings for hinata?  I wouldn't be surprised if NH are writing a Christmas list   for santa. "I want NH to happen for Xmas!" Anyways, don't do yourself any more harm by reading NH comments or opinions or hateful comments cause we are better than that.

I did it for NS on New Year and 616 trolled them all.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 December 2013 - 02:39 PM.

[Shashank95]

I did it for NS on New Year and 616 trolled them all.

I don't know how you get the patience to deal with them man. They're like a pack of hyenas or something. Once they see you, all of them just pounce on you at once. With the SS backing up the NH it's even worse.

[Shashank95]

does anyone feel rin's death was selfish? i know she had to die that way for plot purposes like the sharingan upgrade / to make obito insane.. but she could have killed herself with her kunai.. no need to traumatize kakashi that way..
 
@natalieuciha: you asked about the similarities between mikoto and sakura right? I found a panel of her that looks the same as sakura's.

sorry but Didn't Kakashi stab her with the chidori ? I didn't read that beyond the scene. When their Sharingan evolves.

[Hanabi]

yes he did.. i sort of gave away spoilers oops

rin was kidnapped by some other village and made a jinjuriki, and she became sth like a walking bomb. the enemies plan to release the bijuu once she's inside konoha and terrorize the villagers. rin knew of that plan, so she jumped in front of kakashi's path and got stabbed. kakashi was going to attack the enemies but rin used his chidori to kill herself in order to protect konoha ( her will of fire )

[narulsaku]

 
I disagree. i still think he desn't think about Western pairing war when he writes. And he doesn't write with Narusaku, Naruhina, Narusaku, Naruhina... You may have this impression since the war, but I think it's just to conclude Hinata's character. Before the War he never did this, you only saw Hinata 2 times in part 2: when they meet for the first time since he left and during the confession, so no, he didn't do the NS, NH, NS, NH thing at that time. 
And do you really think pairing war outside of Japan is the first thing a mangaka care regarding his work?
Plus, during this war, there was only 2 real NH moments, when he comforts her, and the handholding. How can you call that playing with pairing? I prefer calling it character's conclusion for Hinata. 
The only thing that I do find confusing is Kiba's comment at the alliance's arrival. 
 
 

yes there r many things about which mangaka has to worry than pairing but i disagree that he isnt aware of pairing war completely. I have met pairing fans of japan and they do debate about pairings too. and yes there hasnt been ns nh ns nh but there i used more or less so i wasnt serious about it

[咲耶姫]

yes there r many things about which mangaka has to worry than pairing but i disagree that he isnt aware of pairing war completely. I have met pairing fans of japan and they do debate about pairings too. and yes there hasnt been ns nh ns nh but there i used more or less so i wasnt serious about it

Yes there are debates, but there are much less intense. And the pairing matter in a shonen manga is not as important as it can be in a shojo, a novel or an american movie. 

But I suggest we quit this subject, I know you understand what I mean and I understand what you mean, but we won't agree on the fact that Kishimoto care or doesn't care about Western pairing war. 

And sorry for not having notice you were not serious, hope you don't mind. ^_^

[Shashank95]

yes he did.. i sort of gave away spoilers oops

rin was kidnapped by some other village and made a jinjuriki, and she became sth like a walking bomb. the enemies plan to release the bijuu once she's inside konoha and terrorize the villagers. rin knew of that plan, so she jumped in front of kakashi's path and got stabbed. kakashi was going to attack the enemies but rin used his chidori to kill herself in order to protect konoha ( her will of fire )

Does kakashi know that Rin did that on purpose ?! Man i feel sorry for Obito and Kakashi. Both of them were screwed. Wonder what more twisted plots Kishi has weaved into his story.

[Shashank95]

Yes we should stop debating abt debating with NH fans. Let them have their theories. We'll continue our wonderful shipping here. So until the manga ends, we sit back and wait. On another note, has anyone here seen La corda D'oro primo passo ? I think it was a shoujo anime with a lot of classical music.

[narulsaku]

Yes there are debates, but there are much less intense. And the pairing matter in a shonen manga is not as important as it can be in a shojo, a novel or an american movie. 
But I suggest we quit this subject, I know you understand what I mean and I understand what you mean, but we won't agree on the fact that Kishimoto care or doesn't care about Western pairing war. 
And sorry for not having notice you were not serious, hope you don't mind. ^_^

yes u r right this topic is without an end and hehe dont worry i didnt minded it at all. It happens in debate. Its just for fun haha. And u know what i also think that pairing isnt the prime concern of shounen manga. But i just love NS so much i take pairing war a bit seriously. Hahaha. So talking about shounen i think the moral does matters though .and NS gives a good moral.

[natalieuciha]

does anyone feel rin's death was selfish? i know she had to die that way for plot purposes like the sharingan upgrade / to make obito insane.. but she could have killed herself with her kunai.. no need to traumatize kakashi that way..

 

@natalieuciha: you asked about the similarities between mikoto and sakura right? I found a panel of her that looks the same as sakura's.

 

 

 

 

i did say they look similar  because of the bangs but now i see their profiles are a bit similar not that its  relevant to anything....but their pose is also similar ..coincidence or kishimoto is tricking us?idk

 

but if u want to see which other character i see resembling Mikoto and why ,let me know

Edited by natalieuciha, 10 December 2013 - 05:09 PM.

[Luna]

I don't know how you get the patience to deal with them man. They're like a pack of hyenas or something. Once they see you, all of them just pounce on you at once. With the SS backing up the NH it's even worse.

 Honestly PAIRING wars are nothing compared to these Celebrities/Singer fanbase wars. It's waaaay worse.  OMG if you see some of the comments these people make about the singers and the people defending them are worse.