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[NaruGirl]

THis is going to be pretty interesting !

[James S Cassidy]

@James

You definitely got it right this week with Naruto's villian is himself. However, I'm not sure his dark side is indeed the true villian.

Seems to be a common theme thoughout the series, doesn't it?

This is just part one.
-He made the promise of a lifetime because he had feelings for Sakura. He fought off those feelings to put her before himself.
-He also went through a lot of personal anguish when he failed to bring Sasuke back.
-He fights with his brotherly love for Sasuke even though he knows Sasuke doesn't
-He conflicts with his feelings for Sakura on MULTIPLE occasions all for her sake and his own.
-He had to overcome his own self doubts when he was in school and his training.

Part two in Shippuden
-He once again still conflicts with his feelings for Sakura even though he is more comfortable about it.
-He had to conflict with the feeling that Sasuke is evil and is never going to change.
-He also had to conflict with everyone saying that Sasuke must die and had to accept that he must do it.
-He once conflicted with his emotions with Hinata and Pain, but this was a once time thing.
-He had to accept Jiraiya's death and grow from it
-He also has to do of self-hatred because he someimes felt he hurt the ones around him.

Now we have Naruto's own doubts, fears, and negative/dark emotions manifested as a doppelganger and he has to fight this now. Literally probably.

The whole manga was a journey of Naruto reflecting over his emotions and personal feelings to make the right choices. From the very small to the big ones. Each time the hurdles got bigger and he had to over come them in order to progress in strength. Sure the other characters had similar experiences, but their troubles were once in a while or not at all. Naruto pretty much faced every challenge as a personal reflection.

Now that we are coming to an end, this is the point where Naruto has to face his toughest enemy. Himself.

Fighting Sasuke is easy when he realized the truth. Madara is easy because well he is trying to kill everything he cares about. Fighting your own demons is a little bit trickier. Almost every enemy Naruto has faced was always a bad guy trying to kill him or the ones he loved. The battle with himself is not an easy one.

I know because I do it some many times my ego is pretty much non-existent.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 April 2010 - 05:21 AM.

[Codus N]

And this tells us we're going to have 493 out next week because Golden Week starts on a Thursday, which is the 29th. The following week, after Thursday, is the break, so after May 9th, 494 will come out.

Huh?? this doesn't make any sense. this week's chapter is supposed to be released on Monday in Japan. Meaning, that, 493 would be released on the 3rd if it wasn't a Golden week.

On another note: we'll definitely see lots of angsting on the next chapter, that's for sure....

Edited by Newkerz, 22 April 2010 - 05:54 AM.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Basing on the Evil Naruto had stated about the villagers who treated him, like kitten, and eventually remarked about how they now value Naruto, isn't the details are quite familiar from Sakura's Confession, how Naruto became a hero, the village loves him now?
I am sorry for bringing this up

[Tokura Misaki]

Is Killer Bee uses "dattebayo" too?

[Derock]

Huh?? this doesn't make any sense. this week's chapter is supposed to be released on Monday in Japan. Meaning, that, 493 would be released on the 3rd if it wasn't a Golden week.

You're thinking about the magazine on newsstands. We're getting the manga from the actual mailbox of someone's house in Japan.

[ShippudenGirl]

Good morning! :3

Well, anyways I suppose you have a point James-kun, we all are technically are own enemies I suppose. Inner conflicts and what not; but I don't think it's really his enemy enemy that's Madara's job. Though, I think Kishimoto did state that Madara wasn't necassarily Naruto's "final" enemy. *shrugs*

[tricksie]

I assume this will be yet another growing stage for Naruto mentally. It's really a good point , why didn't he sign for them ninja? I think it's exactly as it showed Naruto really is sort of selfish still and he will have to change before Bee will train him , But I think the point was that Naruto really says what he thinks everyone wants to hear I think that's why the rapping and the clones had no effect he assumed he could get his way by saying or doing what Bee would like. Naruto will have to notice he has demons inside he must kill before he can control a real demon. After all the 9 tails has always seemed to feed off things that Naruto was insecure about or scared of.

Yeah, that's an interesting way of thinking about it. That Naruto still is saying what everyone wants to hear, but not giving in to his true self.

Until just recently, he only saw Sasuke in that old Team 7 light - now he seems to have snapped out of that. But apparently he still doesn't see any changes in Sakura, and we don't know about how feels towards Hinata. Like signing in the ramen stand, things are changing around him, but is he recognizing it?

So if Bee is self-actualized - and we know he is. He does his own thang unapologetically. - he would see right through Naruto and his little ploy to manipulate him.

So part of this would be him overcoming self to tame the beast within.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but this reminds me of Avatar waaaaay more than Star Wars. When Aang had to face his fears through his chakras, and then in the end he couldn't defeat the fire lord the way he wanted to unless he was incorruptible himself.

Agree with Ciardha and Catsi too, that this self-journey is multi-layered with a better understanding of Sasuke and how easily Naruto could have moved into the dark side.

This will be an interesting little foray into Naruto's mind. Can't wait to see more. Really. I would love to have a couple of chapters of this. But I hope Kishimoto doesn't pull the ol'switcheroo and open a door to so many possibilities then have somebody crash into the pool and disrupt his train of thoughts just when it's getting good!


And just for the record, I've got more rhymes than J.D.'s got Salinger.

[Dreamer]

I'm almost certain there won't be a chapter next week, just go to NF Telegrams if you don't believe me. The early subscribers get their issue a week in advance over the store release, so technically we read next weeks issue that's released on Monday's and also golden week starts late next week and runs through the following Monday=no chapter next week.

My Japanese terminology may be bad but i do know a little about chapter info release and spoiler location (not NF & MH).

Edited by Uzumakikage, 22 April 2010 - 01:40 PM.

[ShippudenGirl]

Let's hope he isn't this ugly :3 --Click here to view--

Erm... Let's hope he isn't this creepy xD

I would laugh if he did Naruto's goofy grin but "evilly".

...Wait, true Naruto revealed! --Click here to view--

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 22 April 2010 - 01:43 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I don't understand why people are getting nervous or a little edgy that Naruto might love Hinata. Yes he loves her but as a friend, comrade he doesn't loves her romantically. We all know perfectly that he has always love Sakura since chapter 3 he has never shown any romantic interest in Hinata whatsoever. If Hinata was so important to Naruto wouldn't Kishi put her more on the story than Sakura? there's no need to do that because Hinata is just a secondary character and those kinds of characters are not important in the main story plot.

So what if evil Naruto might mention to him Hinata's confession? it doesn't mean he's going to fall in love with her all of the sudden (Kishi is not that childish and he doesn't watch Disney movies ) he only uses very slow development like he has done with Naruto and Sakura since the beginning of his manga. If evil Naruto mentions Sakura's confession yes it will have an affect on him because he loves Sakura and he obviously pretends like it never happen explaining why he's acting all normal. Like the villagers, Sasuke and Sakura he has to realized that she really loves him and she has chosen him over Sasuke a long time ago.

He has changed her like he has change the villagers, they respect him and put all their fate in him. It's the same with Sasuke he has to realized that maybe he can save him or maybe he can only save him in death. Right now he doesn't sees him as a member of team seven anymore but as his best friend and brother. He wants to save him from the hatred but he's afraid that he might end up saving him killing him, I think that's what scares him the most that he won't be able to live through the consequences of his actions.

EDIT: Uzumakikage yes I know there's no manga next week you don't have to remind me.

Edited by Gravenimage, 22 April 2010 - 01:43 PM.

[ShippudenGirl]

So... No Manga D; *has heart attack*

Well, I guess that we will have to wait and see what YamiNaruto has to say

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 22 April 2010 - 07:34 PM.

[Dreamer]

Honestley, even if evil Naruto brings up Hinata's confession, there's no back bone or development to even have a or any significance to Naruto's conscious. So it probably won't be even brought up.

[Cloud]

that sucks

Yes, it does. Anything else to add to that?

Honestley, even if evil Naruto brings up Hinata's confession, there's no back bone or development to even have a or any significance to Naruto's conscious. So it probably won't be even brought up.

You've just silenced a few hundred thousand NH fans around the world with those cruel words.... only for a second, of course.

ANGST TIEM.

[Dreamer]

You've just silenced a few hundred thousand NH fans around the world with those cruel words.... only for a second, of course.

Didn't seem bashing to me, i didn't say the word "NH" with cruel vocabulary words following it.

If i'm right and Hinata isn't brought up or used in any special way, Kishi could use the waterfall of "truth" as a way to express his personal feelings/opinion on some things maybe even fandom wise (I hope). Kishi could be further trying to show what he believes and support but through a nice calm manner, without upsetting, since the events of the last interview with a obnoxious fandom giving him a expression to the crowd.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 22 April 2010 - 02:43 PM.

[Cloud]

Didn't seem bashing to me, i didn't say the word "NH" with cruel vocabulary words following it.

Didn't say you were.

But if Hinata's confession isn't brought up again, well...

[RedDelicious]

I just had a twisted thought. What if "evil Naruto" is really KB in disguise, as a start to Naruto's training?
This would be a way to push Naruto into exploring how he really feels.

(KB had time to talk to the other Leaf ninjas, so could have found out about recent public events in Naruto's life.)

[ShippudenGirl]

I just had a twisted thought. What if "evil Naruto" is really KB in disguise, as a start to Naruto's training?
This would be a way to push Naruto into exploring how he really feels.

(KB had time to talk to the other Leaf ninjas, so could have found out about recent public events in Naruto's life.)

No. How would Killer Bee know about the autographs?