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#101 James S Cassidy

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Prime @ Mar 4 2010, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not always time for love the story is not just about love and expecially the love of a pairing. What are you even talking about? I hate to tell you but this is a story and there are hard ships if everything was that easy there would be no story it would be over. There are people that could not be saved and thats the point Naruto has to do what generations before could not. I'm not saying I'm all knowing. I'm just saying that anyone can come up with a possible scenario based upon what has already happened and come to an easy conclusion after all this is not a mystery story you know. The story has been outlined from the beginning there has been foreshadowing for a long time the goals that Naruto must complete have been set. The point is the love will happen it's been built and built and built for a long time and when it does happen it will be dramatic and I see it happening at the perfect time and right now is not that time.


Also were you really caught off guard by the poison kunai? I assumed it was from the very start. She is a medic ninja and fought Sasori it was never something I would have ruled out or not expected


What are you talking about? If you don't believe in love then why are you even here? You either believe in NaruSaku's love or you don't. It would be a little ridiculous for you to be here if you didn't. You make no sense.

There is no way you knew Sakura's kunai was poisoned. There was no indication it was poisoned. I mean, Sasori's poison at least dripped off the blade. Sakura's kunai looked as dry as a bone. There is not even a hint of liquid on it.

You would NEVER have known if Kakashi had not said something. What if Kakashi said nothing and there was no indication of it being poisoned? You would never have known. To believe otherwise you are either lying to yourself or you got really lucky with the predictions. I think the latter is more likely. I mean I got lucky with predictions now and then myself, but it was after looking at every other possibility. I always think of something that was never thought of before.

Even though Sakura is a medical ninja and does have knowledge of poisons, this is not usual for her. She has never used poison in the past even thought she could of.

What's up with you people lately? So much doubt now. So much people worrying about something. I am guessing you are not worried Prime since you know already or at least "predict" was is going to happen. But the rest of you....have all lost faith already? Kind of funny some are even though the deck seemed to be stacked in our favor.

I am not giving up yet and I have good feeling about these things.

The thing about being unpredictable is that if you are unpredictable habitually, then it becomes predictable unpredictability. If he wanted to break that, he would have to go full circle and go back to predictability to be unpredictable again. So for once, what if Kishimoto did exactly what we wanted him to? Thus being unpredictable.

I bet you if Naruto and Sakura kissed in chapter 486 right now, none of you would see that coming. Some say they would, but I bet none of you would. Some of you would be like me and say "Well I knew they were going to do it, but I never expected it now."

I am going to predict the unpredictable.

FOR THE HORDE!!!!

Gee after being sick for the past week, I have all this built up energy.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 March 2010 - 01:48 PM.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (SS3 Goku @ Mar 4 2010, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see were he is going with this ant i agree with James S Cassidy thow i dont know if it will happen so quick but naruto hasal ready ben brought to his lowest point and everything is going to be going up from here for him a kiss is very possible with kish we dident expect sakura to get pissed at sasuke.

look underneth the underneth i did with the kuni poison.

i expect the poison to efect naruto after this battle it was ment to kill sasuke i woulsent be surprised if he faints or sakura dose to somthing to him or if we here from the kyuubi again.


im am expecting sakura,naruto to have a argument as one of kish trolls on NS but in the end it will bring them closer together in the end.


I would not be suprised if it did hurt him considering she is good with poisons and all I would not disagree with the idea of a kiss and honestly like most people I'd support it. Right now just does not seem to be the right time honestly they have been away from the village for a while now and I could see more development taking place once they return. Either way we know this is not the final battle and there is plenty of time for pairing things to happen. Right now the Sasuke issue is at hand though.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:58 PM

oh i belive there will be a kiss but not till the end kish wants to keep his readers all interested.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (Prime @ Mar 4 2010, 06:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is he can be redeemed without actually being brought back to Konoha he could simply fight with Naruto against some one else and there are just a million different things that can happen. But eventually it will happen. I don't really see Sasuke ending up dead without some sort of redemption.






It's not always time for love the story is not just about love and expecially the love of a pairing. What are you even talking about? I hate to tell you but this is a story and there are hard ships if everything was that easy there would be no story it would be over. There are people that could not be saved and thats the point Naruto has to do what generations before could not. I'm not saying I'm all knowing. I'm just saying that anyone can come up with a possible scenario based upon what has already happened and come to an easy conclusion after all this is not a mystery story you know. The story has been outlined from the beginning there has been foreshadowing for a long time the goals that Naruto must complete have been set. The point is the love will happen it's been built and built and built for a long time and when it does happen it will be dramatic and I see it happening at the perfect time and right now is not that time.


Also were you really caught off guard by the poison kunai? I assumed it was from the very start. She is a medic ninja and fought Sasori it was never something I would have ruled out or not expected


I actually agree with you in some points.

I'm a total NaruSaku fan, and I have complete trust in it. The point is though, this is not a Shoujo, it's a Shounen guys. It's not all about the romance, it's about the goal. I'm pretty sure a NaruSaku scene will come up soon, but not like in the next few chapters or anything. And like I said, it's not like I doubt NaruSaku, cause I don't. I'm just going with the honest truth, I'm not using fandom about Naruto and Sakura kissing anytime soon. I just believe, that out of all the couples in Naruto, NaruSaku will be the one that actually becomes Canon.

Right now though, Naruto's making his own decision, and it's all about what the heck he's choosing to do. I can't wait for the NaruSakuness though happy.gifd

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (SS3 Goku @ Mar 4 2010, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im am expecting sakura,naruto to have a argument as one of kish trolls on NS but in the end it will bring them closer together in the end.


Nah, we already had the argument in 469-70. I'm rather confident there won't be another, not one that causes problems with their growing relationship anyway. The issue of Sasuke is now completely split from the feelings Naruto and Sakura have for each other. Didn't you notice how Naruto kept in physical contact with Sakura even after he set her down? He has no anger toward her anymore.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Mar 4 2010, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What are you talking about? If you don't believe in love then why are you even here? You either believe in NaruSaku's love or you don't. It would be a little ridiculous for you to be here if you didn't. You make no sense.

There is no way you knew Sakura's kunai was poisoned. There was no indication it was poisoned. I mean, Sasori's poison at least dripped off the blade. Sakura's kunai looked as dry as a bone. There is not even a hint of liquid on it.

You would NEVER have known if Kakashi had not said something. What if Kakashi said nothing and there was no indication of it being poisoned? You would never have known. To believe otherwise you are either lying to yourself or you got really lucky with the predictions. I think the latter is more likely. I mean I got lucky with predictions now and then myself, but it was after looking at every other possibility. I always think of something that was never thought of before.

Even though Sakura is a medical ninja and does have knowledge of poisons, this is not usual for her. She has never used poison in the past even thought she could of.

What's up with you people lately? So much doubt now. So much people worrying about something. I am guessing you are not worried Prime since you know already or at least "predict" was is going to happen. But the rest of you....have all lost faith already? Kind of funny some are even though the deck seemed to be stacked in our favor.

I am not giving up yet and I have good feeling about these things.

The thing about being unpredictable is that if you are unpredictable habitually, then it becomes predictable unpredictability. If he wanted to break that, he would have to go full circle and go back to predictability to be unpredictable again. So for once, what if Kishimoto did exactly what we wanted him to? Thus being unpredictable.

I bet you if Naruto and Sakura kissed in chapter 486 right now, none of you would see that coming. Some say they would, but I bet none of you would. Some of you would be like me and say "Well I knew they were going to do it, but I never expected it now."

I am going to predict the unpredictable.

FOR THE HORDE!!!!

Gee after being sick for the past week, I have all this built up energy.


I believe in love 100% I just don't believe in fandom writing. I could think of a lot of things that I could say I want to happen but I'm not going to act like it's going to just because its fandom. To be honest I went through this thing where all I was into was romance anime/manga. I also fight for Narusaku all the time on this site I've never doubted it one time. The thing is you obviously have some sort of comprehension issue how come there were more people saying it was poisoned and a bunch were not? Because some people put it all together and it made sense. She is a medical Nin just used a poison gas ball to knock out her own friends in order to go. How could you not come to the conclusion that it was not poisoned? When it had its own panel of a giant dropping line on his face. It was obviously more then just a cut. Also she has never used it before means nothing. She has also never went out with the sole intent to kill some one. But if she was going to poison would be her style of doing it.

You should really learn to read. No one has said that Narusaku was not going to happen or they did not believe it. I just doubt that some horrid fandom kiss will come all of a sudden. Maybe English is you're second language or something I don't know. But a kiss right now would just be the wrong time. Not only did Sakura try to kill the person Naruto is trying to bring home he is in the process of trying to bring him home right now. But now there supposed to kiss all of a sudden? What kind of logic would give you that idea? The point is this manga is written for little kids and its not confusing at all. But for some reason it still blows over peoples heads.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Mar 4 2010, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, we already had the argument in 469-70. I'm rather confident there won't be another, not one that causes problems with their growing relationship anyway. The issue of Sasuke is now completely split from the feelings Naruto and Sakura have for each other. Didn't you notice how Naruto kept in physical contact with Sakura even after he set her down? He has no anger toward her anymore.


oh i seen it loved it too but im not underestimateing kish and kish is a troll im trying to look underneth the underneth the most unexpecting things come when least expected.

No dought in my mind NS will happen but geting there is half/fun/iratation

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:19 PM

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oh i seen it loved it too but im not underestimateing kish and kish is a troll im trying to look underneth the underneth the most unexpecting things come when least expected.

No dought in my mind NS will happen but geting there is half/fun/iratation


I think it's funny when you're going "This will most likely happen and if it does then I'm going to LOL!" Then it does and you're like LOL! It's like being rick rolled or something. But really that's the best part of the pairing. I remember when the Hinata confession happened and I figured it would eventually. I sometimes read the page just for the lol's . I guess thats what happens when you know a author is toying with his readers.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:41 PM

Sort of an out of the way comment but I had to point this out since stuff *does* seem to blow over people's heads.
Sasuke blocked Kakashi's hit... in the next panel you see him flying away with his arms crossed over his chest then he bounces off the bridge like Tigger. There was no "oof" with a squinty eyed expression and then a crash. So of course Kakashi shouldn't be put down for not killing Sasuke, he's obviously just not going to go down like that.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Mar 4 2010, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The issue of Sasuke is now completely split from the feelings Naruto and Sakura have for each other. Didn't you notice how Naruto kept in physical contact with Sakura even after he set her down? He has no anger toward her anymore.


My thoughts exactly. Another panel where their heads are close together. There are many scenes like this where they are drawn close together. Intentionally. When the artist could have drawn Naruto alone and had the panel be just as effective. But the secondary message is that they are physically close and both comfortable with it.

The other one that comes immediately to mind is after the wind nins appear in ch 452, when Naruto and Sakura find out about Sasuke's defection to Akatsuki. There is a panel in there where they are extrememly close.

I've not thoroughly looked, but it would be interesting to compare illustrations with NaruSaku through the manga to other pairings. I can't remember any other illustrated closeness between any other ships, as much as NaruSaku has been shown. I'm looking at you NaruHina!

Anyway, I noticed it right off the bat. And I think since the illustrations are just as strong as the text in getting the message across, it's too much to ignore.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (Prime @ Mar 4 2010, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's funny when you're going "This will most likely happen and if it does then I'm going to LOL!" Then it does and you're like LOL! It's like being rick rolled or something. But really that's the best part of the pairing. I remember when the Hinata confession happened and I figured it would eventually. I sometimes read the page just for the lol's . I guess thats what happens when you know a author is toying with his readers.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:49 PM

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My thoughts exactly. Another panel where their heads are close together. There are many scenes like this where they are drawn close together. Intentionally. When the artist could have drawn Naruto alone and had the panel be just as effective. But the secondary message is that they are physically close and both comfortable with it.


And another point on this issue- to have them argue again doesn't fit Kishimoto's pattern with Naruto and Sakura, particularly in part 2 of the manga. When they've had a disagreement at one point in an arc it doesn't happen again, they figure out what caused the other to get mad and forgive them and renew the bond stronger than ever- almost always without ever even talking about it again. (This is pretty normal as well for the canon romantic couples in shonen. In shoujo they talk about the issue, in shonen they don't. That's just the difference in the way romance is written in shonen vs shoujo manga. It's rare to have characters in a growing romance rehash issues in shonen manga, where it's common in shoujo.)
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:09 PM

I honestly believe if sasuke were to be redeemed w/o dying he would pretty much have to go into exile with naruto letting him go. it is the only way i could see him being able to live, and realize what he has done.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:26 PM

James and Prime, y'all both share good points so theirs no need for you to get mad at each other.

As for the kiss I have no clue when it will come it's possible that it can happen early. I believe it will be a important and symbolic moment which I believe will come in when Naruto feels like he has failed in trying to redeem Sasuke and can't handle Jiraiya's and his father's will. Which could indeed happen early if none of Naruto's words gets through Sasuke and goes back to village feeling like he has failed and lost everything; that will be Sakura's perfect moment that she realizes on the battlefield she might not be able to help Naruto much but she can help Naruto through her love for him and when she kisses him it will free him and take away the burden. stress. and negative thoughts/doubts he has. danarusakunp3.gif narusaku.gif

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:40 PM

i have a theory that third option will work since after naruto smiled sasuke looked less insane

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:45 PM

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I agree with you ^^.. I'd find that very sweet for Sakura to do that, though i'd hope Sai wasn't there to ruin the moment <.< who knows? They could kiss next week xD heh-heh yeah right...

Anywho, I think Prime and James both make good points. There's a time and a place for everything; but there ninja's so there born unpredictable. >D He-he... NH is goin' down next!

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Well of course! Not even Sasuke can NOT have some reaponse to his famous grin! It's like trying to lick your elbow. Lmao.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 04 March 2010 - 07:47 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE (narukunsakuchan @ Mar 4 2010, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly believe if sasuke were to be redeemed w/o dying he would pretty much have to go into exile with naruto letting him go. it is the only way i could see him being able to live, and realize what he has done.


Well I have even thought Sasuke could either somehow save the village to be accepted and restart his clan or somehow live on the outside of Konoha sort of looking out for it. Either way it will happen it's just too far away at this point to come up with a conclusion.

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Mar 4 2010, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Uzumakikage

I agree with you ^^.. I'd find that very sweet for Sakura to do that, though i'd hope Sai wasn't there to ruin the moment <.< who knows? They could kiss next week xD heh-heh yeah right...

Anywho, I think Prime and James both make good points. There's a time and a place for everything; but there ninja's so there born unpredictable. >D He-he... NH is goin' down next!

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Well of course! Not even Sasuke can NOT have some reaponse to his famous grin! It's like trying to lick your elbow. Lmao.


Not even Kakashi could copy that one.












QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Mar 4 2010, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
James and Prime, y'all both share good points so theirs no need for you to get mad at each other.

As for the kiss I have no clue when it will come it's possible that it can happen early. I believe it will be a important and symbolic moment which I believe will come in when Naruto feels like he has failed in trying to redeem Sasuke and can't handle Jiraiya's and his father's will. Which could indeed happen early if none of Naruto's words gets through Sasuke and goes back to village feeling like he has failed and lost everything; that will be Sakura's perfect moment that she realizes on the battlefield she might not be able to help Naruto much but she can help Naruto through her love for him and when she kisses him it will free him and take away the burden. stress. and negative thoughts/doubts he has. danarusakunp3.gif narusaku.gif


I'm not mad at all. There is just a difference between what will be written and what is fandom. Some people see the fandom and think it would be cool to see or that it could happen and it's not always true and most the time it's just insane and does not even fit the plot. People on this website like to throw in alot of Narusaku fandom and of course its to be expected as its the Narusaku website. But there is nothing wrong with fandom as long as it's left as fandom. Some of the stuff people draw is amazing. But some people make predictions of what they think will happen and they use fandom instead of looking at the plot and what is going on in order to come up with a prediction. So many times in the Manga a fight could be going on and people are like "I HOPE THEY KISS OMG!!". It's like wait people and it will happen. There is a time for everything and nows just not the time.

Edited by Prime, 04 March 2010 - 08:46 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:35 PM

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Thankfully, I'm not all into romance so I'm not about to go "OMG! KISS!" well, not until it actually happens >D. I waited 485 chapters for it [Not 10 years when the Manga started I'm only 14, lmao]-(Yes, I've been NS since the begining), I'm sure I can wait another 50-100 or so. With all the physical contact they've had lately (Yes, they have had a lot If you haven't noticed >D) I'm sure it'll come, but in time and a right situation, it'd probably be best with them alone.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 04 March 2010 - 09:36 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Mar 4 2010, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Prime

Thankfully, I'm not all into romance so I'm not about to go "OMG! KISS!" well, not until it actually happens >D. I waited 485 chapters for it [Not 10 years when the Manga started I'm only 14, lmao]-(Yes, I've been NS since the begining), I'm sure I can wait another 50-100 or so. With all the physical contact they've had lately (yes, they have had a lot I you haven't noticed >D) I'm sure it'll come, but in time and a right situation, it'd probably be best with them alone.


I don't really care if its 50-100 or even 10. As long as its right and not all fast written like fandom wants. I'm all for NS and I'm into Romance Manga/Anime and I have saw poorly written Romance and 99% of the fandom is see is poorly written. But like everyone else I'm waiting for the NS moment I just would assume wait instead of it be bad writing that's all.

But it's cool to see people post on here as long as they don't go all wacky. Yea I didn't start reading it when it first came out. To be honest in my time Naruto really became the thing. So it's weird that I'm older now and into it haha.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:56 PM

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Hmm . . . I smell inspiration for a fic. tongue.gif


Write it! XD


QUOTE (JG111580 @ Mar 4 2010, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the point of this conversation is not to convert Sauske right now, but to plant a seed of doubt in Sauske's mind about the path that he's chosen.


Hmm, I believe you're correct about that. It feels too early for Sasuke to be dragged back to Konoha (at least, not without the elders and other villages being up in arms), and this confrontation would be wasted if he came out of it unchanged. Perhaps Itachi's power would reveal another side to the Uchiha Massacre? I'm thinking Madara was actually involved in that, especially with that eye collection he has going on...

Something that causes Sasuke to doubt Madara's version of events would create tension between them, make things more interesting.

QUOTE (ciardha @ Mar 4 2010, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, we already had the argument in 469-70. I'm rather confident there won't be another, not one that causes problems with their growing relationship anyway. The issue of Sasuke is now completely split from the feelings Naruto and Sakura have for each other. Didn't you notice how Naruto kept in physical contact with Sakura even after he set her down? He has no anger toward her anymore.


Yeah, I think that's right. happy.gif While Naruto and Sakura would need some private moments (oh, get your mind out of the gutter... heheelq7.png) to talk, I can't see them having another argument. The question is this... what will Naruto and Sakura decide to do about their relationship? Do they begin to acknowledge their feelings, or will they (god forbid) just pretend Sakura's confession never happened? Another possibility is that Sakura acknowledges her own growing feelings for Naruto, and Naruto still holds back but begins to wonder. Hopefully, we'll see something in the aftermath of Naruto vs Sasuke!




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