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[Blue Jeans]

Well, it's hard to say right now. First off, the revenge thing needs to go for Sasuke. It consumes him and it takes precedence over everything else (and yes, it is rather likely that it will destroy him). Sasuke simply has no time for love when he has a whole clan to avenge and the person who did it has slipped through the fingers of Konoha and no one has been able to bring justice to what was a grevious crime. On top of it, Sasuke himself, when he had been too young, too weak, and too naive to do anything at the time to either prevent it from happening or deal out justice... hell, he must have worn out the what ifs and if onlys after losing everything. Is he a messed up, psychotic and dark, little boy who never quite grew up, yes. But up until Team 7 Sasuke had been successful in keeping everyone at arm's length and not healing the obvious wounds that have festered and grew. He's not a bad guy, that's why he's the anti-hero. Did he give up the chance to redeem himself? Okay, now that's a difficult question to answer and brings vengeance into light. Look, it's easy to say let it go when the wrong was not done to you and as an observer, it's obvious that revenge won't make Sasuke happy... but Itachi also wants Sasuke in his grandios plans of measuring his capacity. After that genjutsu, Sasuke understood that if he stayed he would be putting the only people he has come to care about after losing everyone, in danger. And he also acknowledge that he will not be strong enough to protect those important people either from similar fates should Itachi decide to do what Itachi does best, kill Sasuke's important people. Speculation, true, but Sasuke's a child when he made that decision and it is difficult for children to step out of their world and observes things calmly and objectively. He is basing his decisions on the small bit of experiences - horrible, unforgettable experiences that his brother obviously doesn't want him to forget - and interactions he's had.

Naruto needs to deal with his issues of not being able to keep his promises and being strong enough to protect his important people so that they don't have to leave. He wants to be Hokage, he needs to be stronger, and Sasuke, who was the first to truly acknowledge him as an equal, his brother, is someone he needs to feel he deserves as an equal. He lost the last fight he had with Sasuke and his life was at the mercy of his friend. Seriously, not only does Naruto have issues since he was unloved as a child, but he has issues about self-worth as well. He doesn't angst over it, but getting Sasuke back is a huge part of who he is and what drives him. Being Hokage was a shallow need for revenge as well in the past, to prove to others he was worthy all along, even when they refused to acknowledge him. It only became something with deeper meaning when Iruka truly acknowledged Naruto and then later, Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura followed. Now Naruto understands what the meaning of being acknowledged means, of being important to someone and being strong, dependable and what it means to actually protect. The fact that he knows that Sakura likes Sasuke so much and that Sasuke's departure truly hurt her, and he understands that because it hurt him too, is a barrier that cannot be overcome until the three of them come together again and worked this out. It doesn't matter if Sakura has a change of heart, Naruto would not fully believe this or in himself - which is more important - until he can bring Sasuke back - a goal, at this time that he deems to be tied in with him being Hokage, a goal that he deems will be the FIRST step to proving him worthy to be acknowledged not just by Konoha but by himself.

Sakura cannot decide who she loves or likes more unless she truly spend time with Sasuke again. One just can't make a decision like that, and Sasuke was important enough and was a part of the cycle of her own self-change enough for this to be something that needs CLOSURE of some type. It may lead to SasuSaku and it may lead to NaruSaku and it might lead to SakuNoOne, but the two boys are her boys and she loves them both so much that she is willing to set her life down for them, be it at a moment's notice or a decision that she has time to decide and think over. They both inspired her to grow and she is so different from who she was before, and both Sasuke and Naruto have changed - if not a lot, then enough - for this decision to not be something made on the fly or even for anyone of them to think over on their own. On top of all that, even if Sasuke haven't changed, Sakura has, so that whatever decision she makes, not only does she understand him better now, she may or may not decide that on getting to know him again, that he's not the guy she wants anymore. But she needs Sasuke to be physically present and interact with him and get to know him again before she can do it. And even if Sakura eventually decide she doesn't "love" him like she used to or in the way she did before, it doesn't mean she doesn't love him as a teammate and friend. Either way, Naruto and Sakura will do anything in their power, including giving away their lives and their time to not only bring Sasuke back, but to heal him and show him that he has them as his family now. So, as much as I am a complete NaruSaku fan, I can't disregard the possibility of SasuSaku or just the fact that he matters so much to both of them.

And if Sakura still loved Sasuke, she's not dumb or a masochist. She simply loves him, even if what type of love that is and what she decides to do about it and with it is still up in the air. Love hurts, the more you love someone, the more likely what they decide to do with their lives and themselves will hurt you. Sakura understands this. She loves Naruto too, so when she found out how he had suffered all this time and how she was still not strong enough to protect him from further pain or truly heal the scars he already has, that made her cry for him and made her angry and harsh on herself for being helpless when it matters to the people she loves and cares about. So what if she doesn't benefit from loving Sasuke, if she did it because she got something out of it, that's selfish love, which was what made everyone look down at her in arc one. Sakura grew up, she still loves and its her capacity to continue to love that is what makes her important to Sasuke and Naruto. At least she understands now that her loving Sasuke's not going to change him, that Sakura understands better than anything because she had to change herself. So, I hope that Sakura still loves Sasuke - which is hinted A LOT in the manga, since he is still a force that drives her to change - but it doesn't mean she hasn't started loving Naruto more and more - another HUGE hint in the manga.

And thank god this is not a shoujo... because personally, all three still need to grow up a bit more before I can really consider them having cleared enough issues to consider having healthy relationships. Sakura has the least amount of issues, but both Naruto and Sasuke need to grow up a bit more before I consider either of them ready for that. They may all be old enough to kill people, and have the license to do it, but they have a LONG way to go before they are mature enough to handle a real relationship without half the baggage that both boys are lugging around. I have hope though, that as long as Sakura stays alive, they will both grow to be emotionally more mature than Kakashi - though, that may be insulting to Naruto and Sasuke... because Kakashi isn't much to measure by when it comes to emotional capabilities........

[SeventyxxTimes7x]

to me it doesn't seem hard. After all i'm with the Naruto- like boy for a about 6 months!!!

how nice

[shiroihato]

That would be my guess, although Orochimaru and Anko both said that he dumped her as a failure (maybe just in anime?).

That'd sorta suggest to me that it was while they were still in Konoha, but the latter revelations about how he created the curse seal from Juugo would tend to suggest otherwise.

I kinda get the impression that Kishi worries a lot less about the timeline than we do.

Actually as far as I can tell, she left him because she could tell what he was doing wasn't right. Then he did something to her memory. I don't know what it was, but he made her think he had abandoned her. That's one of the major parts of the whole part with Isaribi. (Though I'm pretty sure that was filler...) Anyway, she got her memory back. And in some part of it (episodes 169-173) It showed her as a young child, interacting with Tsunade, Sandaime, and a medic nin.they seemed pretty friendly. So I don't think the higher ups ever couted her as a missing nin. (Although from what we've seen so ar, I'm guessing the rest of the villagers did.) And I think she did leave the village, but at that point, it seemed like they were authorized to do so. Maybe they were using a mission as a smokescreen?

[twintailednin29]

how nice

thanks!! wait r u being sarcastic?

[ChibiChan]

Once again, agreeing with everyone's posts!
Yeah, the way i see it is:
A LOT of SasuSakuers (and by a lot, I mean enough to fill a decent sized state of the US) are still hanging on to part 1. (Same with NaruHina-sters) ~ And I suppose they can still wish for it to happen, but the possibilities now are even LOWER than before (and they weren't all that high to begin with)

Coz:
1.) Since part 1, Sasuke has never been interested in girls. EVER. Much less, Sakura-chan. This has even forced some people (including myself) to actually question his sexuality

2.) Sakura did have a crush on him, but she somewhat grew out of it all. She still values him as a teammate & w/e, but she ain't swooning and pining all over him like before! (And for some reason, she seems to take pleasure in seeing him naked with Sai...)

3.) Sir Naruto has stepped into the picture! And now he's hotter, taller, and more powerful than ever before in all his blond-hair blue-eyed goodness!! > And Sakura sure has taken a liking to this "new" Naruto....also it helps that:
- Sasuke isn't in the picture
- Naruto is improving his jutsu (Naruto in hospital bed = Much TLC from Sakura)
- ...and NOW Sakura REALLY knows the truth about him!...his past, his hardships...heck all the way down to his "physical attributes" (courtesy of Sai) :o

4.) Sakura's picking up on Naruto's feelings And....although not completely aware of her own, does feel something other than a platonic teammate friendship toward him ~ (Not to mention, people in konoha are starting to see it too....)

5.) Heck Hinata's basically ruled out, and Karin's in the picture now. Miss Sakura part II !! And if some sasusakuer tries to pull the "Oh, he must revive his clan...with Sakura" card, he has a better chance of becoming a pimp and just getting a bunch of chicks together to follow him around, as he will "use them ALL" to do his clan-reviving

I got a ton more reasons for proving my point, but this generally nut-shells it

[BlackLightning]

Ok, 1 question. Just how many times did everyone here ever watch a film that has this plot line: Girl has a huge crush on a boy, the boy is extremely popular but also a jackass. The girl become mature and the role reversed, the boy start having a feeling for the girl and "coincidently" the girl STILL love him, they confess to each other and goes happily ever after.

My own answer to that question: Hundreds if not thousands. The story sounds familiar? thats the classic high school story that ALL Sasusaku fans are clinging for. So, I won't say that the pairing is impossible but I also don't think it will happen. if anything, Kishi is the 1 who made the decision.

[Enermil]

Ok, 1 question. Just how many times did everyone here ever watch a film that has this plot line: Girl has a huge crush on a boy, the boy is extremely popular but also a jackass. The girl become mature and the role reversed, the boy start having a feeling for the girl and "coincidently" the girl STILL love him, they confess to each other and goes happily ever after.

My own answer to that question: Hundreds if not thousands. The story sounds familiar? thats the classic high school story that ALL Sasusaku fans are clinging for. So, I won't say that the pairing is impossible but I also don't think it will happen. if anything, Kishi is the 1 who made the decision.

Stupid occidental romance films. The whole message those high school films send to young girls and young women is, cling to your crush, even is the boy is a jerk, because he secretly loves you and he will someday return your feelings.

We know why the divorce rate is so high these days.

I don´t think that Sasusaku is like that. Honestly I can´t stomach that kind of romance.

[Rick (Bonta-kun)]

Ok, 1 question. Just how many times did everyone here ever watch a film that has this plot line: Girl has a huge crush on a boy, the boy is extremely popular but also a jackass. The girl become mature and the role reversed, the boy start having a feeling for the girl and "coincidently" the girl STILL love him, they confess to each other and goes happily ever after.

My own answer to that question: Hundreds if not thousands. The story sounds familiar? thats the classic high school story that ALL Sasusaku fans are clinging for. So, I won't say that the pairing is impossible but I also don't think it will happen. if anything, Kishi is the 1 who made the decision.

i dont remember watching any movies like that at all lol

then again, i dont watch many romance films

[deathworks]

Ok, 1 question. Just how many times did everyone here ever watch a film that has this plot line: Girl has a huge crush on a boy, the boy is extremely popular but also a jackass. The girl become mature and the role reversed, the boy start having a feeling for the girl and "coincidently" the girl STILL love him, they confess to each other and goes happily ever after.

My own answer to that question: Hundreds if not thousands. The story sounds familiar? thats the classic high school story that ALL Sasusaku fans are clinging for. So, I won't say that the pairing is impossible but I also don't think it will happen. if anything, Kishi is the 1 who made the decision.

So true.
lol if you ever look at some of the sasusaku fics summerys on fanfiction.net thats pretty much what it is almost 100%.
(note i said summerys because is don't read them..I can already tell whats the storys like just from that..)

How sad.

[MagusKyros]

Ok, 1 question. Just how many times did everyone here ever watch a film that has this plot line: Girl has a huge crush on a boy, the boy is extremely popular but also a jackass. The girl become mature and the role reversed, the boy start having a feeling for the girl and "coincidently" the girl STILL love him, they confess to each other and goes happily ever after.

My own answer to that question: Hundreds if not thousands. The story sounds familiar? thats the classic high school story that ALL Sasusaku fans are clinging for. So, I won't say that the pairing is impossible but I also don't think it will happen. if anything, Kishi is the 1 who made the decision.

Things are different in Japan I believe.

Let's also not forget this is Shounen manga we're talking about.

[JABR]

I think it largely depends on which character needs the relationship to resolve and help tie up their character arc.

On one hand you have Naruto's stated desires to be Hokage, to be acknowledged as something other then the Kyubi container, etc... included in that is a relationship with Sakura that he himself doesn't or can't fully define/explain like most kids his age.

On the other hand, you have Sasuke's two stated goals of killing his brother and restoring his clan. The former is what is overshadowing and powering about his character thus far. But the latter is the part where Sakura could come into play (or any appropiate female could) again.

It is possible for Sakura to love Naruto and be needed (and loved) by Sasuke just as much as it is for Sasuke to admit he loves her and admit she belongs with Naruto.

Time will tell.

[Radon]

Well you have to remember that Sasuke has only ever stated the revival of his clan once in the entire manga and while it is possible that he could come back and be like "Sakura lets make babies." but nowhere in his character design is that a definite.

We KNOW Kish is not gonna have Sasuke and Sakura doing anything at the age of 16 as this is a Shonen manga for young men so unless theres a time jump, or he hooks up with Kerin (who at this point is the only person who's expressed outward sexual desires towards Sasuke in part 2) thats not really going to happen.

Sasuke needs a housewife to be honest. Someone he can leave at home with his 7-8 kids while he goes out and parades around in his Ninja attire. Sakura USED to be that kind of girl, but now shes not. Shes a good ninja and a skilled medic who I can seriously see not settling down and starting a family till shes at least 25-30.

This also brings up a personal theory I have about Sai. Why did Kish go with that specific character design? The emotionless, pale, attractive young male slot is already filled by Sasuke, and he didn't need to be similar to Sasuke to get the job he was assigned to do, done.

And now here we have, someone who resembles Sasuke in appearance, voice (as stated by Sakura), and personality and she shows little to no attraction to him unlike Ino whose all over him. In fact Sakura tells Ino that Sai is an emotional cripple herself when they are at the hospital with Kakashi.

My guess was he was added to show Sakura's emotional growth. That if faced with another obnoxious, pretty boy she won't end up in the same situation as last time and also to add another character to the group as well...

These are my theory anyways.

[JABR]

The Sasuke that will return to the village hidden in the leaves if he does so, will be a far different character from the one that left it.

So his tastes and attitudes towards a mate will have to wait to be judged.

[Sithking Zero]

Wait... I thought I heard that Sasuke dies at the end of Shipuuden (Sp?)

What happened?


I mean, if he's dead, then we've got a really different question: "Why do SasuSaku fans support Necrophilia?"

Can someone answer me that?

Mind you, I heard of this secondhand, so it may not be acurate...

[Radon]

No one knows anything beyond the next manga chapter so... No... there is no evidence that Sasuke will die at the end, or anyone else for that matter.

[Sithking Zero]

Oh, okay.

In that case, this topic makes a LOT more sense then. 'Cause if he dies, then what would be the point in asking if Sakura gets together with him?

Please ignore my posts of large stupidity.

[Temari KICKSASS]

I think that it would be somewhat like teh anime Inuyasha, where he was torn between Kikyo and Kagome, Sakura will be torn between Sasuke and Naruto, but ends up with Naruto.I mean, HELLO! He's the most important male character in the storyline cause' it's all about him and she's the main female character cause' he likes her! Sasuke just there to throw ya' guys off. And it worked for the Sasusaku lovers

[SakuDotz]

I mean, HELLO! He's the most important male character in the storyline cause' it's all about him and she's the main female character cause' he likes her! Sasuke just there to throw ya' guys off. And it worked for the Sasusaku lovers

Sasuke is a "main" character too though. And the storyline isn't all about Naruto. ; People just jump to conclusions because ONE character likes the other. Sakura was just like the other many girls Sasuke has crawling all over him so we can't really say that they will end up together because it's just a silly infatuation. She never "loved" Sasuke. At least, that's what I believe. She just liked him since he had all the spotlight and was impressive. Simply to put it, Sasuke looks at his teammates in more of a sibling way. He's never shown feelings of love or affection towards Sakura and there's no way that he's going to now after we've seen his current attitude. I don't see Sasuke in any type of love life right now. He's too busy trying to make his goal a reality. Not even with Karin because we know she's just another chasing fangirl.

[SakuNaruLover]

Sasuke is a "main" character too though. And the storyline isn't all about Naruto. ; People just jump to conclusions because ONE character likes the other. Sakura was just like the other many girls Sasuke has crawling all over him so we can't really say that they will end up together because it's just a silly infatuation. She never "loved" Sasuke. At least, that's what I believe. She just liked him since he had all the spotlight and was impressive. Simply to put it, Sasuke looks at his teammates in more of a sibling way. He's never shown feelings of love or affection towards Sakura and there's no way that he's going to now after we've seen his current attitude. I don't see Sasuke in any type of love life right now. He's too busy trying to make his goal a reality. Not even with Karin because we know she's just another chasing fangirl.

totally agrees

[Radon]

I have to say I have never laughed as hard in Part 2 as in 365 when Karin says shes going to ravage rape Sasuke like crazy once Juugo and Suigetsu were asleep.

Shes like Sakura except in her sexual prime and therefor makes for hilarious interactions with people.