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[TouKen4Life3g]

I heard we won't get an origin story for Spider-Man but we'll see. They should just do it like a story pass by, not like literally from the beginning.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Tom Holland is the actor, quite young, only 19. Apparently he was cast for the upcoming Spider-Man Homecoming movie coming out next year (what a bs title)... How many more reboots of the series are we gonna get, lol?

 

 

I heard we won't get an origin story for Spider-Man but we'll see. They should just do it like a story pass by, not like literally from the beginning.

From what I've read/heard, Homecoming is not going to be another origin movie. Hopefully it's true. The Black Panther movie will also apparently not include an origin story either, possibly because his "origins" get shown in Civil War, but be more of a continuation following the events of Civil War.

[alexander]

I've seen plenty of reviews already. For what I understand, it's the best MCU movie done to date. The action is absolutely top notch. Everyone says the airpoirt battle is a comic book fan wet dream come to life. The political side is very well done and you can clearly see and even agree with the ideologies of both sides. Ant man and Spiderman are the show stealers (with spiderman himself being said to be his best live action incarnation of all time), though not everything is sunshine and rainbows. It seems Sharon Carter was reduced to a love interest to Steve, with her character having extremely little development, whose only pourpose in the movie was to shoehorn a romance (Geez, this is Brucetasha all over again. I would rather see this movie stay romance neutral). And Baron Zemo is an pretty weak villain that that didn't left much of a mark and left an weak impression, only being there because the movie required an main baddy.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ok, people are leaving from theaters and wow, it's like they were legit blown away. Expectations usually don't meet. It exceeded them. I'm going to try to keep my hype minimum as possible.

[LuckyChi7]

Ok, people are leaving from theaters and wow, it's like they were legit blown away. Expectations usually don't meet. It exceeded them. I'm going to try to keep my hype minimum as possible.

 

I so totally agree,  ya know it's so funny I was one of those guys that didn't watch either of the two Captain America Movies till they came out on Bluray. and I gotta say this is the first Captain America I'm so legitly invested in seeing, and no its not because Tony Stark or Spiderman are in it. Those guys are just the icing on the cake, I'm just really curious how this movie is gonna play out for him. 

 

 

Side note: My girlfriend thinks that this movie kinda feels like Avengers 2.5 just based off the marketing and the through all promotions and in some ways I can kinda agree with her, but I'll hold off my judgment till the movie comes out.   What about you guys? 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 15 April 2016 - 02:56 AM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I've seen plenty of reviews already. For what I understand, it's the best MCU movie done to date. The action is absolutely top notch. Everyone says the airpoirt battle is a comic book fan wet dream come to life. The political side is very well done and you can clearly see and even agree with the ideologies of both sides. Ant man and Spiderman are the show stealers (with spiderman himself being said to be his best live action incarnation of all time), though not everything is sunshine and rainbows. It seems Sharon Carter was reduced to a love interest to Steve, with her character having extremely little development, whose only pourpose in the movie was to shoehorn a romance (Geez, this is Brucetasha all over again. I would rather see this movie stay romance neutral). And Baron Zemo is an pretty weak villain that that didn't left much of a mark and left an weak impression, only being there because the movie required an main baddy.

I wouldn't be surprised if the original intention was to develop Bruce with Betty throughout other Hulk movies while Steve could be with Natasha, but unfortunately, Edward Norton leaving the Bruce Banner role and forcing Disney/Marvel to hunt down a replacement probably really screwed with timing schedules and such and resulting in there being unable to be other standalone Hulk movies for that development to happen yet at the same time, Disney/Marvel probably didn't want to just leave Bruce out in the cold as not only does everyone else have/had someone in their life (Tony with Pepper, Thor with Jane, Clint with his wife, possibly Vision and Wanda ala the comics, Scott and Hope, and even Steve had Peggy before) but if anyone really needs someone by his side, it's Bruce Banner.

So while the pairing was definitely out of left field, I can see why it was done in general.

And from the sounds of it, Baron Zemo went the way of Baron von Strucker, as in he seemed like he'd play a big role as a main antagonist but...yeah...though not surprising with Zemo's case as the focus really was more on Steve and Bucky as well as the internal conflict between Steve and Tony and their side more so than an outside antagonist.

 

 

I so totally agree,  ya know it's so funny I was one of those guys that didn't watch either of the two Captain America Movies till they came out on Bluray. and I gotta say this is the first Captain America I'm so legitly invested in seeing, and no its not because Tony Stark or Spiderman are in it. Those guys are just the icing on the cake, I'm just really curious how this movie is gonna play out for him. 

 

 

Side note: My girlfriend thinks that this movie kinda feels like Avengers 2.5 just based off the marketing and the through all promotions and in some ways I can kinda agree with her, but I'll hold off my judgment till the movie comes out.   What about you guys? 

I can get why people get that impression given it has each of the Avengers characters in it minus Thor and Hulk ((who is obviously being set up for Ragnarok while Hulk is also supposed to appear in it in what sounds like an ode to Planet Hulk from what I've heard. Though I can also understand them not being there since both Bruce and Thor ended up agreeing with Tony's side of things in Age of Ultron and so to have both of them on his side, as well as Vision, and Natasha to help keep Hulk from going out of control, that would have seriously made Tony's side too OP, lol)) but from what has been talked about the film story so far, it's definitely much more a "Captain America" film when all is said and done.

So basically, it's a candy "Avengers" shell covering a chocolate "Captain America" center. XD

[Nostradamus]

New trailer (Well sort of)   :

[rocci]

Just saw it, I think if they could handle this many characters then the next avenger will be good.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's a great sign. When was the last time many heroes let alone villains being handled in one movie ended up good?

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

That's a great sign. When was the last time many heroes let alone villains being handled in one movie ended up good?

And of course, the main reason I feel it works is because we got to know most of these characters already, with only Spider-Man and Black Panther being "newcomers", but from the looks of things, they both get at least an introduction in Civil War rather than them just appearing and being thrown into the fray without any build-up, which would explain why Spider-Man: Homecoming...still a weird title...and Black Panther aren't going to be origin stories, but rather (at least I assume for now in the case of Homecoming) continuations based on what they do in Civil War. We already saw the clash of differences between Tony and Steve in both previous Avengers movie, as well as metaphorically based on their individual movies, so even Civil War isn't out of nowhere fan-service for us while it also tries to be its own unique thing rather than simply copying the comic story (which caused a lot of people to actually doubt the movie ever since the main plotline was revealed; wth Steve's friendship with Bucky as well as Tony at the forefront rather than the huge political battle from the comics and, of course, not SO many characters).

This is why I have a lot more faith in Infinity War Part 1 and 2 as opposed to Justice League.

BTW, looks like the Inhumans movie is no longer going to be part of the Phase 3 lineup anymore due to it being pushed back again, this time out of the scheduled time frame (not until 2020 now from the looks of things), probably due to, this time, work on Spider-Man: Homecoming taking priority while Robert Downey Jr. also said in an interview that he was up for at least one more Iron Man movie too. I would love if they adapted the story of him being with the Guardians of the Galaxy for a time. Imagine the combined wit and snark of him and Chris Pratt's Star Lord together, lol.

[LuckyChi7]

My thoughts on the movie: 

 

Note: First 5 Minutes and 50 seconds are Non Spoilers!! 

 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Currently putting down my thoughts on FB. Will edit with a copy/paste them if I ever finish, lol.

EDIT:
 

Captain America: Civil War...wow...where do I begin?
 

Well, I can start by saying that the hugely positive reviews don't give it justice at all. If you REALLY want to truly experience what the reviews were saying, you really need to watch it. This film is really what Batman v. Superman WANTED to be but failed at completely.
 

Whereas Batman v. Superman was really ONLY about the fighting in general and not a whole lot of substance behind it like there should have been, quite a bit of the fighting in Civil War wasn't solely primal excitement, but also still having funny moments and also even PAINFUL to watch even because we stood alongside most of these characters (obviously, Spider-Man and Black Panther are newcomers, but we still get introduced to them and get a little time to know their characters, to which I can proudly say that neither disappoint), saw them grow and develop in each of their standalone films (for those who had them anyway) and the prior Avengers film, seeing them get molded by those events and so you're not surprised at all at these general events taking place the way they did.
 

Not only did characters make it clear about how they felt about the Sokovia Accords documents that would place The Avengers under a UN supervising committee, but even as they fight, you feel the emotions behind each blow, and you know this is NOT truly what anybody wants, but because Steve nor Tony, in another one of their similarities that makes their fighting so emotional, are not willing to stop in their beliefs, it really leaves no other option BUT to fight until there's no one left of the opposition standing in their way. And what makes it harder is that both sides are both right AND wrong in different ways with their beliefs. You can see the good and bad points in their views.
 

But while there was definitely a lot of emotion (the twist behind Zemo is definitely not what I expected), in true Marvel fashion, there is still plenty of lighthearted, more goofy and funny moments to keep things balanced (including Stan Lee's obligatory cameo, lol) as opposed to Batman v. Superman being pretty much 99.9% dark and humorless grit.

The movie, as with each MCU film has, also ends with consequences for their actions and doesn't try to end things on a bright and happy note. Things ended BADLY for The Avengers and now we'll have to see how they will be able to fight together again with the final pair of Avengers movies.
 

Definitely one of the best MCU films, if not best comic book movie I've ever seen. Go out and see this film, and if necessary, watch every MCU film starting with the first Iron Man movie before seeing Civil War. You will not regret it.

Edited by HalfDemonInuyasha, 07 May 2016 - 03:30 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

 

Currently putting down my thoughts on FB. Will edit with a copy/paste them if I ever finish, lol.

EDIT:
 

Captain America: Civil War...wow...where do I begin?
 

Well, I can start by saying that the hugely positive reviews don't give it justice at all. If you REALLY want to truly experience what the reviews were saying, you really need to watch it. This film is really what Batman v. Superman WANTED to be but failed at completely.
 

Whereas Batman v. Superman was really ONLY about the fighting in general and not a whole lot of substance behind it like there should have been, quite a bit of the fighting in Civil War wasn't solely primal excitement, but also still having funny moments and also even PAINFUL to watch even because we stood alongside most of these characters (obviously, Spider-Man and Black Panther are newcomers, but we still get introduced to them and get a little time to know their characters, to which I can proudly say that neither disappoint), saw them grow and develop in each of their standalone films (for those who had them anyway) and the prior Avengers film, seeing them get molded by those events and so you're not surprised at all at these general events taking place the way they did.
 

Not only did characters make it clear about how they felt about the Sokovia Accords documents that would place The Avengers under a UN supervising committee, but even as they fight, you feel the emotions behind each blow, and you know this is NOT truly what anybody wants, but because Steve nor Tony, in another one of their similarities that makes their fighting so emotional, are not willing to stop in their beliefs, it really leaves no other option BUT to fight until there's no one left of the opposition standing in their way. And what makes it harder is that both sides are both right AND wrong in different ways with their beliefs. You can see the good and bad points in their views.
 

But while there was definitely a lot of emotion (the twist behind Zemo is definitely not what I expected), in true Marvel fashion, there is still plenty of lighthearted, more goofy and funny moments to keep things balanced (including Stan Lee's obligatory cameo, lol) as opposed to Batman v. Superman being pretty much 99.9% dark and humorless grit.

The movie, as with each MCU film has, also ends with consequences for their actions and doesn't try to end things on a bright and happy note. Things ended BADLY for The Avengers and now we'll have to see how they will be able to fight together again with the final pair of Avengers movies.
 

Definitely one of the best MCU films, if not best comic book movie I've ever seen. Go out and see this film, and if necessary, watch every MCU film starting with the first Iron Man movie before seeing Civil War. You will not regret it.

 

 I saw the movie on Saturday and it was better than Winter Soldier which was hard to do but they did it.

Steve and Bucky were great together and I know I'm beating a dead horse with this but Steve and Bucky are better and more believable friends than Naruto and Sasuke and the movie actually makes you feel sorry for Bucky. I'm glad it didn't go the route the comics did with Steve dying and Spidy causing One More Day, though Spidy and Black Panther were some of the best things in the movie and Black Panther wanted revenge on Zemo but didn't let it consume him unlike Sasuke.

I  wish that Batman v Superman was what Civil War was. The movie did a good job at showing both sides of the argument. There was more joy and hope in Civil War than Batman v Superman showing why Marvel is better at movies. This is the best Captain America movie out of the three. Plus the fight between Tony and Steve was tragic and better than any of Naruto and Sasuke's fights. 

[luffyq1]

i can't believe this actually happened, but i started to tear up at cap/buc vs tony. the music and the dialogue just made the fight scene that much intense. steve/buc was actually the best thing about this movie. also, best fight scene was during the apartment with steve/buc. black panther and spider-man were done very well despite their short appearance. the little scene between steve and natasha in the church filled my shipper heart lol. i will definitely see it again this thursday. 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

i can't believe this actually happened, but i started to tear up at cap/buc vs tony. the music and the dialogue just made the fight scene that much intense. steve/buc was actually the best thing about this movie. also, best fight scene was during the apartment with steve/buc. black panther and spider-man were done very well despite their short appearance. the little scene between steve and natasha in the church filled my shipper heart lol. i will definitely see it again this thursday. 

Without making any direct spoilers for others, it's also very ironic how, just like how they did everything BvS tried to do but much better, they even use the subject of mothers and do it SO much better.

[luffyq1]

Without making any direct spoilers for others, it's also very ironic how, just like how they did everything BvS tried to do but much better, they even use the subject of mothers and do it SO much better.

oh yeah, they definitely nailed that well. this movie sets up so many things perfectly. i was thoroughly entertained by this movie, which had everything in it. steve actually scared me when he was repeatedly basing tony like a mad man with his shield lol. movie was so intense that i'll need a cigarette after watching it xD.

Edited by luffyq1, 11 May 2016 - 03:35 AM.

[trang95]

Can't wait to watch the movie. I'm just waiting for my brother to get done with finals so that we both can watch it. You guys get me excited!

[LuckyChi7]

I can't stress enough about how much I love this movie given what rating I gave it on my video review, but you know here's some things I'm really interested in now Spider-Man: Homecoming, and Black Panther.  At the same time my love for Civil War has gotten me wondering like Avenger's Infinity Wars Parts 1 and 2 have a tough act to follow, but I without a doubt believe that the Russos will pull it off some how given then Infinity Wars is suppose to have like 50+ characters involved which is crazy, but I think they can do it as they did for Winter Solider and now Civil War. 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I can't stress enough about how much I love this movie given what rating I gave it on my video review, but you know here's some things I'm really interested in now Spider-Man: Homecoming, and Black Panther.  At the same time my love for Civil War has gotten me wondering like Avenger's Infinity Wars Parts 1 and 2 have a tough act to follow, but I without a doubt believe that the Russos will pull it off some how given then Infinity Wars is suppose to have like 50+ characters involved which is crazy, but I think they can do it as they did for Winter Solider and now Civil War. 

And we also can't forget the build-up to it, possibly starting with the upcoming Doctor Strange (wouldn't be surprised if it brings in the Soul Stone) and onward with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. Who knows if anything will be done with Spider-Man: Homecoming, but Thor: Ragnarok will most likely be when the real building up begins.

[VanitasDS76491]

And we also can't forget the build-up to it, possibly starting with the upcoming Doctor Strange (wouldn't be surprised if it brings in the Soul Stone) and onward with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. Who knows if anything will be done with Spider-Man: Homecoming, but Thor: Ragnarok will most likely be when the real building up begins.

I hear Thor: Ragnarok will be a key movie in Phase 3.