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[Nami]

I despise this character and her fans. Overrated as hell...
Seriously you've ever seen a shipping fandom get their own movie? I'm not talking about plot-related romance couples (ex Link/Zelda from LOZ or Inuyasha/Kagome) I'm talking about a one-sided pairing that had no chance in canon and was suddenly pulled out of the ass as endgame.
NH is a disgrace to shipping.

 

Yeah, they got one episode at most, just to keep trolling. But nothing more.

[Kleine Weiss]

I wanted her to stop chasing after Naruto, not for the sake of NS, but for herself. I always wanted to see a strong female character who can stand up for herself. The problem is her character was always about Naruto, who shall she be without Naruto? I actually wanted to see her coronation day as the leader of her clan. I actually imagined this scenario that during her inauguration, she will keep Naruto as her inspiration to lead the clan but will finally stop chasing after him because now she has a more important duty to lead their clan and demolish the flawed system between the Main family and the Branch family.

 

While walking in the aisle, waiting to be inaugurated, Hinata reflects, "Naruto, you've always been an inspiration to me, your smile saved me, and changed me. But today, I'm finally going to stop chasing after you. To lead our clan is now my sole duty as a Hyuga. To change a flawed system that destroys relationships; that is my new goal. Naruto, I will always be grateful to you and to Neji nii-san for helping me achieve what I am today.  This day will mark a new chapter, in the Hyuga clan, in Hyuga Hinata."

 

I could have worded it better but oh well. 

 

P.S. Also, she is overrated and her fans worshipers are crazy.

Edited by Kleine Weiss, 28 November 2014 - 10:54 AM.

[archangel]

I come to hate her in 2nd part. At the 1st part, she had potential. But on the 2nd part, she shows nothing new. She had no development, never evolve. She still blush and barely speak with Naruto. Fan idolize her because she's cute, pure heart and have big boob.

 

But the real question is how a character like that fit in the ninja world? I mean he was in the war thinking about getting together with Naruto. IN WAR REALLY. They killed Neji off to make Naruto get a little closer. Afterward we have nothing from her. She just learn the 64 palms in the war. I mean really. I see Neji with so much potential too and he die stab by wood. Hinata could have done the rotation to protect Naruto.

 

And don't they get that Tobi and Pain were Akatsuki. They wouldn't have killed Naruto. Deva path was weaken, with an injure Naruto to carry, I believe the remaining ninja could overpower him in the 5 sec. window. Especially when NAruto ask to not interfere. Having Naruto in the 6 tails state ain't convenient.

In the war, if Naruto is injure, Kyubi chakra could have heal him, so is medical ninja. I don't see what's the deal of her putting herself in unnecessary risk

 

Well the character was there as a c**k block in the end. Plus she get Naruto for no reason. throwing most of the story development out of the window. Plus I have to listen that he intend her to be his girlfriend a long time ago. REALLY? I hate when people expect the reader or the viewer to be stupid. Funny things about a story, it's written in ink. You can always comeback and see that it's not really true. She sell the franchise to the money path.

That why I hate her. She destroy an 8 years old reading for me. Without even being there and relevant. Now everything is about making her relevant.

[Paperman]

@ Kliene Weiss Yes! I cokpletely agree. I've always thought that Hinata had the potenetial to becoming a really memorable character. In Part 1 she says Naruto inspired he with his smile. Great. But I wanted to see what she would do with that inspiration. Moving on from Naruto would've been a huge step up. But instead in Part 2 we got her stuck on repeat - Naruto this, Naruto that. You would think her being blacklisted by her clan she would have the guts to prove them wrong. Nope. She became Naruto's shadow. Following only him. It saddens me on how her character became a fixture.

@ archangel: Yeah that's true. Her peraonality is far too... meek to br classified as a shinobi. Every other character shows some drive. Tenten, while she has no development, still aspires to be a strong kunoichi. Sakura and every other female are in the same boat. They want to improve and get stronger. Hinata does too, but not to the extent of them.

I think that's my problem though. That a character with such potential, in the end, goes, "I will be holding your hand, Naruto-kun." There is so much you could've done with her Kishi yet you spent it with her chasing after Naruto-kun.

[Phantom_999]

I don't dislike her, I just don't see the point of her. I like her character but it was just  a wasted potential because all she is honestly is Naruto's fanbase in universe as an answer to all the bias Kishi gave to Sasuke. All the fangirls and all the swooning and pedestal holding Sasuke has in the Naruto world, and Kishi felt " Hey Naruto needs at least one fan like that", and thus, Hinata was born.

 

I don't care what the facts are for her conception, that's How I see it because 1) That is her character 2) that is her character, and 3) THAT. IS. HER. CHARACTER. Her motivations, character developments etc. etc. Are all based on one word. "Naruto-kun". That is all she is and EVER WILL BE. Anyone care to argue otherwise?

Edited by Phantom_999, 28 November 2014 - 06:31 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I don't dislike her, I just don't see the point of her. I like her character but it was just  a wasted potential because all she is honestly is Naruto's fanbase in universe as an answer to all the bias Kishi gave to Sasuke. All the fangirls and all the swooning and pedestal holding Sasuke has in the Naruto world, And Kishi felt " Hey Naruto needs at least one fan like that, and thus, Hinata was born.

 

I don't care what the facts are for her conception, that's How I see it because 1) That is her character 2) that is her character, and 3) THAT. IS. HER. CHARACTER. Her motivations, character developments etc. etc. Are all based on one word. "Naruto-kun". That is all she is and EVER WILL BE. Anyone care to argue otherwise?

 

No, no, I think you covered it well.

 

 

I wanted her to stop chasing after Naruto, not for the sake of NS, but for herself. I always wanted to see a strong female character who can stand up for herself. The problem is her character was always about Naruto, who shall she be without Naruto? I actually wanted to see her coronation day as the leader of her clan. I actually imagined this scenario that during her inauguration, she will keep Naruto as her inspiration to lead the clan but will finally stop chasing after him because now she has a more important duty to lead their clan and demolish the flawed system between the Main family and the Branch family.

 

While walking in the aisle, waiting to be inaugurated, Hinata reflects, "Naruto, you've always been an inspiration to me, your smile saved me, and changed me. But today, I'm finally going to stop chasing after you. To lead our clan is now my sole duty as a Hyuga. To change a flawed system that destroys relationships; that is my new goal. Naruto, I will always be grateful to you and to Neji nii-san for helping me achieve what I am today.  This day will mark a new chapter, in the Hyuga clan, in Hyuga Hinata."

 

I could have worded it better but oh well. 

 

P.S. Also, she is overrated and her fans worshipers are crazy.

 

I know what you mean, Kleine, and it's said all that stuff had reallllly not come to pass! You can imagine how much better Hinata would be if she could do that!

[Phantom_999]

 

No, no, I think you covered it well.

 

Thank You.

[sonicsucks]

All of you are unbelievable. You guys sound like bitter children putting down a honor elementary student while you all got barely passing grades.

As for Hinata, she's not my favorite female but she's not anything close to one note, boring or useless. At least she has developed from where she was and since then did her role better that I can say Sakura has. She was within expectations and never forced her character to rise above everyone else unfairly.

Sakura is guilty of those. kitten her, what makes her more prominent than any of the other rookies maybe bar shikamaru? If hinata was a Satellite love development to the main character (which isn't so bad, she has shown bigger empathy and concern to Naruto's personal human flaws more than Haring ever has), Sakura is even worse from a general narrative.

Sakura fell for a emotionally retarded nutcase who I think would fit Sakura more than any girl in the series due to her more tender treatment towards him and her ability to remind him he's human who through out the series always stood up for him and unconditionally loved him and wanted his happiness. No girl in the series has displayed that level of commitment and loyalty to Sasuke's wellbeing.

And from that, That's all Sakura amounts to, a love story that effects all aspects of her characters growth. She in all her progress as put her growth through a boy she wants to marry. Nothing she did was a sign of individual progress of her own will and cause, she has been in the back seat of Naruto's ride to save Sasuke because that's all she amounted to as a main female character in the plot.

Even her character dynamics with other females is kinda lacking compared to Naruto and Sasuke, her shallow relationship with Ino and other fellow kunoichi shown in part 2, her obvious biased tie to legendary medical ninja, chiyo who obviously was a SasuSaku side story dressed in a Akatsuki fight, and finally her ass pull summoning katsuyu which was never shown or seen before and how her master even showed her how to summon her hell we don't even see how katsuyu accepts her showing how she passes her master.

Anything major involving Sakura involves boys and love. So Sakura is anti feminist and shows a lack of equality towards stereotype roles which is why in the anime there is no Sakura centered episodes even in filler, she very static in her own focus and in a shonen No less. She acts like a childish spoiled angry abusive kitten for no reason but attempted humor between naruto and her which in shonen is kittening one of my peeves.

She like all other stereotypes in anime always feel that they have to assault the main character and be aggressively entitled to overpower males through misunderstanding situations because that's comedy while to me it shows a lack respect for main pairings and so called couples especially in action anime because it's regulates certain gender roles as opposed to empowering them but the woman at the end of the days abuses is not an indication of strength but weakness to show her female needing to control because she's powerless and that she is still weaker than the main character or not that strong in battle against many male filled warriors who are more or less created to give the protagonist a amount of equality as a powerful role.

This is the sad reality or not only Sakura but Hinata and the other female characters, in the end the men matter more on a developed scale and they are more compelling and complex than the women as well as better fighters, better human beings, and more than what they seen on the surface. All the chick's in this series suffer from boy obsession in some fashion not just Sakura and Hinata.

But yeah the reason Hinata is more likeable than Sakura because while meek, overly feminine, and has nearly no outside development beyond Naruto is still at least nicer and more dignified than Sakura. She also loves her teacher, her family, her team, and neji and has shown absolute decisiveness to put her life on the line to save and protect them. She's pretty much the holy virgin Mary as a Chinese inspired ninja girl.

Sakura realistically speaking is more or less too realistic. Less ideal and more corrupt than compared to Hinata. She has lied, she has condescended, she has put personal desires over the greater good of people, she has been cowardly. This ironically makes her human but not interesting to me, she based on this deserves Sasuke even more, because they have plenty of flawed development and look more like anti heroes than actual heroes.

Hinata with her character and her values for the ideals that she and Naruto share is more a heroine than Sakura ever will be.

[rocci]

@sonic is indeed suck
Sakura has more potential than Hinata. It just kishi writing that suck.

[sonicsucks]

Sakura had as much potential as the plot wanted too.

[Dario]

These pissing contests are so pointless now. Both characters could have been decent, both characters ended up being one dimensional baby making machines that could easily have been replaced with nameless females. Truly a shame.

[rocci]

Sakura had as much potential as the plot wanted too.

All character. Minus sasuke.

[sonicsucks]

Whut?

[rocci]

Whut?

Sasuke fulfil all his potential if not more.
This manga should name after him. Hahaha

[Elicit]

All of you are unbelievable. You guys sound like bitter children putting down a honor elementary student while you all got barely passing grades.
As for Hinata, she's not my favorite female but she's not anything close to one note, boring or useless. At least she has developed from where she was and since then did her role better that I can say Sakura has. She was within expectations and never forced her character to rise above everyone else unfairly.
Sakura is guilty of those. kitten her, what makes her more prominent than any of the other rookies maybe bar shikamaru? If hinata was a Satellite love development to the main character (which isn't so bad, she has shown bigger empathy and concern to Naruto's personal human flaws more than Haring ever has), Sakura is even worse from a general narrative.
Sakura fell for a emotionally retarded nutcase who I think would fit Sakura more than any girl in the series due to her more tender treatment towards him and her ability to remind him he's human who through out the series always stood up for him and unconditionally loved him and wanted his happiness. No girl in the series has displayed that level of commitment and loyalty to Sasuke's wellbeing.
And from that, That's all Sakura amounts to, a love story that effects all aspects of her characters growth. She in all her progress as put her growth through a boy she wants to marry. Nothing she did was a sign of individual progress of her own will and cause, she has been in the back seat of Naruto's ride to save Sasuke because that's all she amounted to as a main female character in the plot.
Even her character dynamics with other females is kinda lacking compared to Naruto and Sasuke, her shallow relationship with Ino and other fellow kunoichi shown in part 2, her obvious biased tie to legendary medical ninja, chiyo who obviously was a SasuSaku side story dressed in a Akatsuki fight, and finally her ass pull summoning katsuyu which was never shown or seen before and how her master even showed her how to summon her hell we don't even see how katsuyu accepts her showing how she passes her master.
Anything major involving Sakura involves boys and love. So Sakura is anti feminist and shows a lack of equality towards stereotype roles which is why in the anime there is no Sakura centered episodes even in filler, she very static in her own focus and in a shonen No less. She acts like a childish spoiled angry abusive b*tch for no reason but attempted humor between naruto and her which in shonen is kittening one of my peeves.
She like all other stereotypes in anime always feel that they have to assault the main character and be aggressively entitled to overpower males through misunderstanding situations because that's comedy while to me it shows a lack respect for main pairings and so called couples especially in action anime because it's regulates certain gender roles as opposed to empowering them but the woman at the end of the days abuses is not an indication of strength but weakness to show her female needing to control because she's powerless and that she is still weaker than the main character or not that strong in battle against many male filled warriors who are more or less created to give the protagonist a amount of equality as a powerful role.
This is the sad reality or not only Sakura but Hinata and the other female characters, in the end the men matter more on a developed scale and they are more compelling and complex than the women as well as better fighters, better human beings, and more than what they seen on the surface. All the chick's in this series suffer from boy obsession in some fashion not just Sakura and Hinata.
But yeah the reason Hinata is more likeable than Sakura because while meek, overly feminine, and has nearly no outside development beyond Naruto is still at least nicer and more dignified than Sakura. She also loves her teacher, her family, her team, and neji and has shown absolute decisiveness to put her life on the line to save and protect them. She's pretty much the holy virgin Mary as a Chinese inspired ninja girl.
Sakura realistically speaking is more or less too realistic. Less ideal and more corrupt than compared to Hinata. She has lied, she has condescended, she has put personal desires over the greater good of people, she has been cowardly. This ironically makes her human but not interesting to me, she based on this deserves Sasuke even more, because they have plenty of flawed development and look more like anti heroes than actual heroes.
Hinata with her character and her values for the ideals that she and Naruto share is more a heroine than Sakura ever will be.

I should have stopped reading when you said that Hinata is not anywhere close to one-note or boring. There's like no other character in the manga itself that is as one note and boring as Hinata. Her character is a real tragedy, it could have developed better from Part 1 but it never did! She's a near empty vessel that only contains her pairing fodder status.

[六道仙人]

what rants? Hinata and her fans ruined this manga. Deal with it.

[ramenanmitsu]

what rants? Hinata and her fans ruined this manga. Deal with it.

Hey there is a troll in our near vicinity. Why aren't you trolling master?

[六道仙人]

Hey there is a troll in our near vicinity. Why aren't you trolling master?

 

my soul has been drained up since months :( those goddmned red scarves everywhere!

[Advaith]

what rants? Hinata and her fans ruined this manga. Deal with it.

[shisui]

All of you are unbelievable. You guys sound like bitter children putting down a honor elementary student while you all got barely passing grades.

As for Hinata, she's not my favorite female but she's not anything close to one note, boring or useless. At least she has developed from where she was and since then did her role better that I can say Sakura has. She was within expectations and never forced her character to rise above everyone else unfairly.

Sakura is guilty of those. kitten her, what makes her more prominent than any of the other rookies maybe bar shikamaru? If hinata was a Satellite love development to the main character (which isn't so bad, she has shown bigger empathy and concern to Naruto's personal human flaws more than Haring ever has), Sakura is even worse from a general narrative.

Sakura fell for a emotionally retarded nutcase who I think would fit Sakura more than any girl in the series due to her more tender treatment towards him and her ability to remind him he's human who through out the series always stood up for him and unconditionally loved him and wanted his happiness. No girl in the series has displayed that level of commitment and loyalty to Sasuke's wellbeing.

And from that, That's all Sakura amounts to, a love story that effects all aspects of her characters growth. She in all her progress as put her growth through a boy she wants to marry. Nothing she did was a sign of individual progress of her own will and cause, she has been in the back seat of Naruto's ride to save Sasuke because that's all she amounted to as a main female character in the plot.

Even her character dynamics with other females is kinda lacking compared to Naruto and Sasuke, her shallow relationship with Ino and other fellow kunoichi shown in part 2, her obvious biased tie to legendary medical ninja, chiyo who obviously was a SasuSaku side story dressed in a Akatsuki fight, and finally her ass pull summoning katsuyu which was never shown or seen before and how her master even showed her how to summon her hell we don't even see how katsuyu accepts her showing how she passes her master.

Anything major involving Sakura involves boys and love. So Sakura is anti feminist and shows a lack of equality towards stereotype roles which is why in the anime there is no Sakura centered episodes even in filler, she very static in her own focus and in a shonen No less. She acts like a childish spoiled angry abusive b*tch for no reason but attempted humor between naruto and her which in shonen is kittening one of my peeves.

She like all other stereotypes in anime always feel that they have to assault the main character and be aggressively entitled to overpower males through misunderstanding situations because that's comedy while to me it shows a lack respect for main pairings and so called couples especially in action anime because it's regulates certain gender roles as opposed to empowering them but the woman at the end of the days abuses is not an indication of strength but weakness to show her female needing to control because she's powerless and that she is still weaker than the main character or not that strong in battle against many male filled warriors who are more or less created to give the protagonist a amount of equality as a powerful role.

This is the sad reality or not only Sakura but Hinata and the other female characters, in the end the men matter more on a developed scale and they are more compelling and complex than the women as well as better fighters, better human beings, and more than what they seen on the surface. All the chick's in this series suffer from boy obsession in some fashion not just Sakura and Hinata.

But yeah the reason Hinata is more likeable than Sakura because while meek, overly feminine, and has nearly no outside development beyond Naruto is still at least nicer and more dignified than Sakura. She also loves her teacher, her family, her team, and neji and has shown absolute decisiveness to put her life on the line to save and protect them. She's pretty much the holy virgin Mary as a Chinese inspired ninja girl.

Sakura realistically speaking is more or less too realistic. Less ideal and more corrupt than compared to Hinata. She has lied, she has condescended, she has put personal desires over the greater good of people, she has been cowardly. This ironically makes her human but not interesting to me, she based on this deserves Sasuke even more, because they have plenty of flawed development and look more like anti heroes than actual heroes.

Hinata with her character and her values for the ideals that she and Naruto share is more a heroine than Sakura ever will be.

 

The majority of what you say isn't even true. I hope you get diarrhea soon. Then, what comes of your mouth will match what comes out of you a**hole.

 

Edited by shisui, 29 November 2014 - 02:19 PM.