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[TouKen4Life3g]

I agree the love triangle was too much. The Last Airbender had romance but I felt that LoK had too much and I didn't really like it. The story would have been better without it.

Same thing I said for Dead Space 3...

[Khaleesi]

To many people this platonic interaction is enough to ship KorrAsami over MaKorra. Who the heck knows what motivated Bryke to do this? This KorrAsami moment wasn't originally this intimate...

I hated the love triangle, I really did, and I don't think it was realistic at all. I like Mako's and Korra's interaction, but the way the producers decided to kitten on Mako and Asami-especially her- made me angry. It feels so unresolved to see how Mako and Asami broke up. Normally, you don't forgive a person who cheated on you that easily. Season 2 was even worse when Korra lost her memories and kissed Mako out of all a sudden. Do you see Mako and Asami talking about this moment afterwards and finally settling things? Nope. Everything would have been better if the love triangle was left out, but I guess the producers had to rush the romance b/c it was originally intended to be only 13 episodes. Still, they should not have continued the love triangle in season 2. For many, including me, this was one of the biggest flaws in season 2.

At least, this love triangle fiasco allowed Korra and Asami to bond even closer in season 3

You didn't understand. That platonic interaction is not enough to make it popular enough to be considered. Bryke do it for something else than its fanbase.

It's realistic but is rushed, as I said, LoK is in general rushed as hell. Season 3 was good, tho. For me Makorra was done in season 2. There was nothing between them since they broke up, Korra didn't think about him romantically, didn't miss him and instead of it she bonded with Assami. I loved that. That's the reason I accept this end couple. They had their development as much they could on this rushed series. Anyway, if there was no romance at all it would be better. 

[sushi.]

I really didn't like the love triangle either. It was like they planned Masami's ruin from the start, and a love triangle is the easiest and most cliché high school drama to do it. They should've broken up because of personality differences, life style and choices(for instance they walk different roads), class etc. Kind of like Makorra? That would've been a well-meshed story with realism and complexity. But they couldn't bother and took the easy way out. :(

 

Because I really like how Makorra ended. Their journey wasn't perfect, but their closure was excellent. They had a good reason to break up and Bryke didn't have to turn them into kitten to make them. I wish Masami would've been dealt with in a similar way.

At least, this love triangle fiasco allowed Korra and Asami to bond even closer in season 3

trang95, I'm wondering why you are smiling at Korrasami friendship, but booing at their romanceship? I understand why you won't ship them, but why do you put the limit on friendship?

[TouKen4Life3g]

I assumed all that "development" was purely friendship but boy was I wrong.

Well, it's up to you, really.

[luffyq1]

I agree the love triangle was too much. The Last Airbender had romance but I felt that LoK had too much and I didn't really like it. The story would have been better without it.

part of the reason i dropped the series.

[Khaleesi]

lmao, if it were Mako who hold hands with Korra everyone would think it was romantic

 

kitten

[kidNinja]

So Korra and Asami are canon now? Lol

 

 

I didn't care about shipping in this show and was neutral the whole time and I don't normally care for same-sex couples (not homophobic just not my cup of tea) but I like this a helluva lot better than either of them ending up with Mako. (He had his chance with both and screwed up, especially with Asami TWICE).

 

 

 

MUCH MUCH better ending than Naruto.

[trang95]

I really didn't like the love triangle either. It was like they planned Masami's ruin from the start, and a love triangle is the easiest and most cliché high school drama to do it. They should've broken up because of personality differences, life style and choices(for instance they walk different roads), class etc. Kind of like Makorra? That would've been a well-meshed story with realism and complexity. But they couldn't bother and took the easy way out. :(

 

Because I really like how Makorra ended. Their journey wasn't perfect, but their closure was excellent. They had a good reason to break up and Bryke didn't have to turn them into a**holes to make them. I wish Masami would've been dealt with in a similar way.

trang95, I'm wondering why you are smiling at Korrasami friendship, but booing at their romanceship? I understand why you won't ship them, but why do you put the limit on friendship?

B/c Season 1 and 2 lacked any type of genuine interaction b/w Korra and Asami- at least I don't consider anything that happened between them as close as it was in Season 3. We keep talking about Team Avatar, Team Avatar, but I've missed any moments b/w our two female characters. Everything revolved around this kittening love triangle.

Why I don't ship Korrasami? B/c I simply do not see anything romantic going on b/w them. I just don't. To me they are great bffs whose friendship reminds me of something similiar in my real life (if I can even call my relationship with my cousin like that). I honestly believed Korra to reunite with Mako at the end of season 4 simply b/c of the way Bryke set up this season (oh boy, was I wrong).

Don't get me wrong, I do not have a problem with yuri ships, for example the girls in Maria-sama ga Miteru, but to me Korrasami was simply platonic.

[Khaleesi]

Again, it's funny how this always comes to h o m o couples. 

If Assami were a boy that was supportive with Korra all the time since she broke up with Mako, the view of it would be different...

Edited by theunburnt, 19 December 2014 - 09:56 PM.

[Khaleesi]

Is it so srtange that to you that people have different opinions about this? I have no problem with h o m o couples but this took me by surprise. I have never seen anything like this. I don't support it but I also don't disapprove as well.

It was intented to be romantic. You don't have to ship it to accept that.

They way it was done was normal for me because the only way we have h o m o couple is in h o m o mangas/animes respectively. When it comes to other series it's...always ambiguous. 

Edited by theunburnt, 19 December 2014 - 09:56 PM.

[Khaleesi]

I'm not going to lie it did give off a romantic vibe but I felt it was left for the fans to decide how they chose to view it.

It was intended to be romantic so it's romantic, period. That "up to interpretation" is just the way of not saying "bisexual" out loud, as always.

[Broken Figurine]

I am not a fan of pandering.

 

Korrasami = NaruHina

 

It happened because it was popular, not because it was supported by the story. kitten that pairing. And kitten Makorra too. Why did Korra have to end up with anyone to begin with? She hadn't had the time or energy to even considering thinking about it for the past two books. Now that she got her life in order, in times of rebuilding, instead of remaining and overseeing the reconstruction, she goes off on a vacation with her friend?

 

Korrasami is as tacked on as their friendship. Seriously, what did the Krew even offer Asami? Why did she stick around for so long? Let's not forget Korra stole her boyfriend, Mako, who cheated on her, more than once if you consider the whole amnesia debacle in book 2 as cheating, when they wanted to get back together but Korra forgot she and Mako had broken up.

 

The finale in general was pretty flat. Eventful, action packed even, and yet so utterly drab and boring. Kuvira cemented herself as the worst villain, bar none, and her pitiful excuse of a backstory is laughably bad. There was truly end goal in sight of her wanton destruction. It was so over the top cartoony that nothing managed to give me any sense of suspense whatsoever. I just knew they'd all make it - well, all of them except for Asami's father, who carried a death flag the size of Texas the moment he showed up, especially when Varrick and Zhu Li bugged out of the Hummingbirds.

 

Honestly, mechs and romance have ruined Legend of Korra. It was never particularly good, but these two things in particular made it far, far worse.

 

If you're comparing NaruHina, which had 700 chapters to potentially develop, with a NON CONFIRMED pairing that had four seasons spanning under 20 episodes, then your perspective is skewed. First of all, Asami and Korra did not jump 20 years into the future, with kids, after a 15 year run where everything was pointing to Makorra. They didn't even get an 'I love you' so if that's pandering to the fanbase, that's pretty weak. There is implication, yes, but people also fail to put into perspective what the characters had gone through and how this is not as left-field and illogical as it might seem.

 

Asami's father just died. Unlike the other characters of Korra's "Krew", she doesn't have anyone left to lean on. Bolin has his brother, his large new-found family, Opal, by extention the Beifongs, and has a great relationship with Verrick (as seen by being 'minister' at his wedding). Mako has his brother and family, and he had a moment with Korra where he firmly said he'd stand by her. They don't need a journey with Korra to get away from it all or whatever. Asami was at a wedding and her father's death is obviously hard on her. She teared up when she mentioned him, and when she admitted to Korra, "I don't know what I'd do if I'd lost you and my father," it confirms what has never really been disputed--Asami is lonely. Her father was everything to her, he betrayed her, and just when she forgives him he was suddenly taken away from her and because of everything going on she couldn't just stop to process.

 

Now think--where are they going? Are they going to some sexy resort, all eyebrow waggling and sly grins? They're going to the spirit world. I think it's quite symbolic of a spiritual journey after loss and suffering. Remember that in season 3 Asami had offered to go with Korra when she was recovering. Seeing someone vulnerable and being there for them isn't a bad way to develop a deep connection. Whatever their past together, the awkwardness of Mako being between them, it's rather insignificant compared to having a friend nearly die. That, and their inclination for friendship wasn't suddenly brought on in the last season. Asami had told Mako season 1, "I like Korra," meaning that even with that boyfriend baggage she liked Korra as a person. It's not a stretch to say Korra is likeable. 

 

Then in season 3 they continued to bond, obviously having moved on from Mako and finding his awkwardness silly as an in-joke between them. That's great development, and removes the idea that this would be a roadblock toward any greater relationship between them. Then of course, Korra's suffering and Asami's compassion probably helped forge that bond where Korra feels that she has an easier time communicating with Asami. I like this a development between them a lot more than what we got in Season 2 with love triangle nonsense, because if we're supposed to believe that the two are honestly friends we needed something deep like this and it delivered. It was relationship drama that I believe really stunted the show, but the handling of this relationship was a highlight for me. 

 

Now back to the theme of season 4, Korra had to take a journey to recovery which, by her words in the last episode helped her become a more compassionate person even toward someone like Kuvira. Now, the tables have turned and Asami, a friend who had supported her through tough times, is having one of her own and she suggests to go on vacation. When Asami says she wanted to see the spirit world, Korra says this is perfect. Why? Because a portal is conveniently there? Sure, but also maybe because spirituality and recovery are linked in this universe. If you look at it outside of the perspective of shipping, this ending can be interpreted as hurt/comfort and compassion. It fits with the theme of season 4 and Korra's growth. 

 

Now, supporting and forging a relationship by compassion is not bad ship material. Asami was part of Korra's group. It's not like Hinata where she was always on the outside looking in--Asami actively gave her support. Also, it's not the resolution of their potential pairing but the beginning. Unlike Makorra where the finale ended with a kiss and girlfriend/boyfriend status, Korrasami is left to develop with the seeds having been sown not in some outside source, but since season 3. It's not a picture perfect pairing but to say that it's the equivalent of NaruHina is ridiculous. The ending of Legend of Korra is eons better than what we got. Bryke ended it right by making it feel like the start of something more, rather than the definitive ending. 

 

Korra said she still feels like there is so much more room to grow, to change, to learn. She has hope again. Likewise, the group will grow with her. What the ending told us is that it is implied that Korra and Asami's development toward each other is heading toward a potential romance and why not? What is so horribly bad about Korra and Asami's relationship that it shouldn't be a possibility? Korra may never end up with Asami. It's not like we got a TWENTY YEAR FLASH FORWARD that has set anything in stone. What people are threatened by is the mere implication of it! It's ridiculous. I would think after the horror that is Naruto's ending we'd have set our bars low that this wouldn't be something we're up in arms. We've seen terrible handling of pairings. Don't lessen the terribleness that was NaruHina by comparing it to something so tame.

[sushi.]

Is it so strange to you that people have different opinions about this? I have no problem with h o m o couples but this took me by surprise. I have never seen anything like this. I don't support it but I also don't disapprove as well.

I'm sure you genuinly believe that you have nothing against same-sex couples, but being homophobic is more than that, and it often lies in the subconsciousness. And this is to all those in this thread who's said "I'm not homophobic but..!!" No one can be completely sure they are free of bigotry. That reeks of arrogance. Casual homophobia is so carefully constructed, we're raised to be like this without noticing. Because under the surface, most of us believe straightness is the default. This problem is so normalized and cemented, and it nowadays it is more sophisticated, not as blatant as before. You can not know and you need to question yourself, and listen to lgbt people. If one of us believes in you enough to call you out on something, do not deny it. Listen, learn, and watch your mouth.

Edited by sushi., 19 December 2014 - 10:21 PM.