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[Gojira]

We already saw that in RTN movie.

No, what we got was that basically Sasuke was Charlie Harper. Sakura would obviously prefer it if Sasuke was with her and her alone as oppose to be one of the many women he flirts with.

So your point is?
Who cares anyway about Hinata? She doesn't matter.
The only thing we got from this chapter regarding Hinata, is that Hinata's dream is Naruto, we already knew that. And that NH is not going to happen in the real world, it's all in Hinata's head.

My point is that NH isn't dead because it still exists one-sided or not. And it was more about a point to how irritating NH fans are gonna be for a while. It isn't going to slow them down any that was my point.

[Nostradamus]

why we no saw the dream of orochimaru?

 

something gore maybe

Orochimaru's dream doesn't contain any gore.

It contains something with Sasuke but it's only for people over 18.

[redrose3443]

I agree with luffy, Sakura needs to be in the action. I can put pairings aside, if it means Sakura is kicking @ss.

[ramenanmitsu]

I feel like Ino x Chouji might become canon. 

 

In the real world Ino won't have two handsome guys fighting for her. And in the real world, Chouji won't have a girl who says that "fat is cool" to him. The opposite of a handsome guy, and a girl who thinks "fat is cool" is definitely Chouji and Ino respectively. I just thought it was quite a coincidence that these two had the same type of dream. But I may be over thinking stuff. 

 

And is this a hint Shikamaru and Temari might get married? The dream was about Shikamaru and Temari NOT wanting to get married, so in the end, they just might. 

[Gojira]

Its pretty obvious Kishi wants to keep Orochimaru's intentions in the dark for now, even though at this point in time he's completely irrelevant

I feel like Ino x Chouji might become canon.

In the real world Ino won't have two handsome guys fighting for her. And in the real world, Chouji won't have a girl who says that "fat is cool" to him. The opposite of a handsome guy, and a girl who thinks "fat is cool" is definitely Chouji and Ino respectively. I just thought it was quite a coincidence that these two had the same type of dream. But I may be over thinking stuff.

And is this a hint Shikamaru and Temari might get married? The dream was about Shikamaru and Temari NOT wanting to get married, so in the end, they just might.

Which I can't help but find confusing since didn't Kishi say himself in an interview that he had no intention of ShikaTemari happening? Maybe he changed his mind.

Edited by Pepsi, 28 May 2014 - 06:34 AM.

[KnS]

Yep, my favourite part was definitely Gaara's dream. Also, that's a very good assessment on ShikaTema. But that said though, Shikamaru is even in more denial than Gajeel is for Levy.

 

Well, I'm very fond of Gaara, as you know.  ^_^  Shikamaru may yet wake up from his denial.  There was absolutely no reason for Kishimoto to make relationships the content of Shikamaru's dream if it wasn't to show that his dream of "never understanding love" will not come true.  Looks like he will understand love eventually.  

 

I'm not. It pretty much only reinforces that Hinata's dream is still Naruto and that whole chapter 573 crap was meant in a romantic light not a platonic one like Shikamaru's

It shows that though still one-sided NH is still alive. As oppose to SS which has officially become dead.

 

I don't know what to tell you.  NH is completely dead.  Kishimoto couldn't make it any plainer without literally spelling it out.  

 

Still predict sakura will getting stab.

 

Every time you post this I laugh.  

 

I also loved how Tsunade's dream included Orochimaru in it as well.. it shows us that deep down he still bears some kind of importance to her. 

 

I took it as a foreshadowing of how, despite everything that has or will happen, Sakura will always feel that way about Sasuke, too.

 

atleast he put sakura and kakashi higher then sasuke i loved that cuz he always means what he says

 

Exactly.  

 

So your point is?

Who cares anyway about Hinata? She doesn't matter.

The only thing we got from this chapter regarding Hinata, is that Hinata's dream is Naruto, we already knew that. And that NH is not going to happen in the real world, it's all in Hinata's head.

 

Yes.  Like I said above, Kishimoto could not have made it any clearer that Hinata has no chance with Naruto, and for several reasons -- including her clan's disapproval.

 

I expect that when all those who are currently under the genjutsu awake, they will realize that whatever they dreamed was just that -- a dream, and not what can or will ever happen in real life.  Let's hope this is the way that Hinata accepts her future.  She will have seen herself with Naruto, meaning she will never be with him, and thought of her clan's expectations -- which she will hopefully step up and accept in order to fulfill her destiny.

[tonga1]

shika-tema surprise me..shikamaru thinks about her in romantic way?

[That Uchiha]

Wow, Sasuke was a real jerk this chapter, he usually treats Sakura better than this...I don't know what kishi is trying to do but I hope he corrects his behavior because i'm really not feeling SasuSaku now.

I like how Naruto defended Sakura and Kakashi. 

Kaguya caught me by surprise. Kaguya for final villain yes please! I just hope Madara doesn't die though.

[luffyq1]

shika-tema surprise me..shikamaru thinks about her in romantic way?

I really don't get the big deal about that pairing. Oh well.

Edited by luffyq1, 28 May 2014 - 06:38 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Well, technically, her dream is also for Neji to be alive (you will say she's not the only one in this chapter), so all the ones who were saying she doesn't give a kitten about his death (me included) were wrong. 

Yeah but that moment when Neji's dead body stood by her feet and she was thinking about Naruto's "Big and strong hand" still remains.

[Gojira]

I don't know what to tell you.  NH is completely dead.  Kishimoto couldn't make it any plainer without literally spelling it out.

Elaborating on that would help me immensely.

[Transformers03]

 

Wow.  Very entertaining chapter.  So Madara's will is to give everyone a dream that is their heart's desire.  That's interesting in terms of his motives.  It's back to that idea of "I know what's best for you and will take away your free will to confer my will upon you."  No thanks.

 

Things of note....

 

+ NH is indisputably dead.  I know NH fans will bang on about it, but it's dead.  Dead, dead, dead.  But the way Kishimoto chose to show it was interesting. While making it clear it would never happen, Kishimoto showed us that there would be no approval for it within her clan even if it could.

 

+ I was happy to see Jiraiya included in Tsunade's dream.  

 

+ Gaara's deep feelings of trust and friendship for Naruto is really cool -- that he would dream of having Naruto as a friend much earlier in life.

 

+ Shikamaru and Temari... hmm.  Another hint, and because in the dream Shikamaru wondered if it would ever happen kind of means it could.  That wouldn't suck.

 

+ I fear for Sai, lol.  Ino is too much for him.

 

+ Sasuke is a tactless, cold-spirited puke.  I didn't think he could get any more disgusting, but I was wrong. Naruto's reaction to Sasuke's condescension was perfect, although it tugged at my heartstrings when Naruto said that Sasuke might be better than him.  It's not true, Naruto!

 

As for the twist at the end, I thought something like that could happen.  I said in my post on #677 that I had a feeling Madara either didn't sense Kaguya's presence, or didn't realize the possibility that she was likely to double-cross him.

 

 

Elaborating on that would help me immensely.

 

 

While I don't essentially disagree with you KnS, I too also want you to elaborate on how you think NH is dead.

[咲耶姫]

Its pretty obvious Kishi wants to keep Orochimaru's intentions in the dark for now, even though at this point in time he's completely irrelevant


Which I can't help but find confusing since didn't Kishi say himself in an interview that he had no intention of ShikaTemari happening? Maybe he changed his mind.

He said he didn't intent in writting about Shikamaru's romance story. That's not the same thing, he could very well write that Shikamaru and temari are married at the end, without explaining anything, after all, they are not main characters, just side ones. And even for side characters, their relationship has already been well hinted. 

[Gojira]

That was Lana.

Wow that's....both pointless and a slap in the face to Superman's relationship with Lois Lane. Kind of makes DCAU Superman look like an kitten when he's currently dating someone he loves and yet his perfect dream is living a family life with his ex girlfriend.

[Nostradamus]

Yes.  Like I said above, Kishimoto could not have made it any clearer that Hinata has no chance with Naruto, and for several reasons -- including her clan's disapproval.

 

I expect that when all those who are currently under the genjutsu awake, they will realize that whatever they dreamed was just that -- a dream, and not what can or will ever happen in real life.  Let's hope this is the way that Hinata accepts her future.  She will have seen herself with Naruto, meaning she will never be with him, and thought of her clan's expectations -- which she will hopefully step up and accept in order to fulfill her destiny.

Like I said in my rants even though I "hate" Hinata. I don't really hate her, I just want her to open her eyes. So let's hope this dreamworld will make her and everyone else see the truth. 

[soraandven]

I'm not. It pretty much only reinforces that Hinata's dream is still Naruto and that whole chapter 573 crap was meant in a romantic light not a platonic one like Shikamaru's

It shows that though still one-sided NH is still alive. As oppose to SS which has officially become dead.ok

ok dude... what in the hell have you been reading? ill say that i agree with you on the 573 thing since it confirms that her thoughts were really meant as romantic but it also confirms nh is dead kishi has always trolled nh since the very start every time nh gets a moment it either gets trolled or ns outshines it every single time and with this recent chapter its not to farfetched to think the nh ship has finally sunk

[luffyq1]

Wow that's....both pointless and a slap in the face to Superman's relationship with Lois Lane. Kind of makes DCAU Superman look like an a**hole when he's currently dating someone he loves and yet his perfect dream is living a family life with his ex girlfriend.

Don't sweat, she was just a combination of Lois and Lana. Her name was Loana lol.

[咲耶姫]

I don't know what to tell you.  NH is completely dead.  Kishimoto couldn't make it any plainer without literally spelling it out.  

He could, by making Hinata finally realize that Naruto loves Sakura, because we can say whatever we want about her smile in 450, she seems to don't get he's already in love with someone else. And then her realizing Naruto will never love her as she expect him to. 

This chapter seems to not be clear enough for NH fans, they take it as a "sweet and intimate NH moment" WTF?!

[Awes9]

As you said, the only one who can help is Naruto. So he should have shared information because Naruto was there and he also wanted to hear about it. But he didn't, and the reason is because it was Kakashi and Sakura asking, not Naruto. He might as well have whispered into Naruto's ear. He's being unnecessarily inefficient for the sake of trying to prove how useless Kakashi and Sakura are. 

Now that you say it you're right. He seems to be a kitten on purpose, that was harsh and unnecessary even for Sasuke.
 

[redrose3443]

Kishi better do something big for Sakura. For the past several chapters he's had her fail and I'm sick of it.

 

Foreshadowing and build up has never had me so mad, I mean, is he having fun feeding hater fuel?

 

Sigh, I just want my heroine to shine. Is that so bad?