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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:15 PM

Ok, I just want to say that if Kishi keeps Tsunade alive after what just happened, it will be atrociously terrible writing. I mean, she was freaking cut in half. And is bleeding to death. She needs to die at this point. Someone important needs to die, and Tsunade is the best candidate.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Sep 11 2012, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kitten....

That's all I can say.....

Like some people said, I was actually expecting Oonoki to be the one to bite the dust. But... I can still see him dying using a desperate jutsu to stop Madara (or at least stall him). With 2 Kages (possibly) dead, and a General likely being mentally incapacitated (if Madara & Obito pushes Kakashi over the edge to break him), then the Alliance is really going to see dark days ahead.

Another thing.... I HATE how Kishi brought back Oro. He should have stayed DEAD. With Tsunade dead, it would've been the perfect scenario. With all 3 of the Sannin dead, this would pave the way for the Original Team 7 to become the next Sannin.

Well, it would be possible for Orochimaru to kind of "stay dead" by hiding in the shadows and becoming a recluse, alone with his experiments and such.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Sep 11 2012, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, I just want to say that if Kishi keeps Tsunade alive after what just happened, it will be atrociously terrible writing. I mean, she was freaking cut in half. And is bleeding to death. She needs to die at this point. Someone important needs to die, and Tsunade is the best candidate.

Why would that be terrible writing ? She still could be saved by the slug or someone rescue her or something happens. Now if there will be flashbacks and then she's still be alive, that would be somewhat a bad writing cause other than that, there really isn't.

Edited by T XD, 11 September 2012 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

Actually i just want to see how sakura reacts now!!!

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:32 PM

You know Tsunade could go walk off that injury of hers, oh wait...

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 11 2012, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
on a serious note :o where is naruto??? was that a clone?? did naruto go to find the kages......? if so.........naruto BETTER not hog tsunade.........give sakura some development.....!!!

will naruto try and find sakura??? so she can heal her first? before going to tsunade????

that's what i'm wondering and what i'm afraid of ,i don't want a narutoxtsunade moment and interaction,I mean com on he had his story with his sensei that's enough and besides doing it again means that kishi we'll have to repeat again he wpn't do that

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 11 2012, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you mean by "he" as Obito, he won't do that cause they will fight with him more easily, not when he was in the alternate universe to make things pass through him when he fighting with him in the real world.
But if this case happened, Naruto would have willingly or unwillingly had been transported to the alternate universe of Obito and well, you know, some chatting between them and maybe a fight if Obito not returned to be a good guy.

how would naruto Tnj obito when he doesn't even now the story,Hell,he seems like a third wheal in all this mess i mean whenever obito or madara talks he goes bellastic and jumps,to tnj obito should be kakashi's thing and even kakashi needs someone to tnj him so he could get a hold of himself laugh.gif sleep.gif

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Edited by candycane-chan, 11 September 2012 - 05:34 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (Toasty Warrior @ Sep 11 2012, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know Tsunade could go walk off that injury of hers, oh wait...


Hahaha lol biggrin.gif

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:36 PM

[quote name='candycane-chan' date='Sep 11 2012, 06:33 PM' post='410692']
that's what i'm wondering and what i'm afraid of ,i don't want a narutoxtsunade moment and interaction,I mean com on he had his story with his sensei that's enough and besides doing it again means that kishi we'll have to repeat again he wpn't do that


how would naruto Tnj obito when he doesn't even now the story,Hell,he seems like a third wheal in all this mess i mean whenever obito or madara talks he goes bellastic and jumps,to tnj obito should be kakashi's thing and even kakashi needs someone to tnj him so he could get a hold of himself laugh.gif sleep.gif


Im pretty sure the real naruto is in tobis dimension so kishi has a plan with him wink.gif

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

I thought about that....wit..when madara said this naruto was a clone ,kakashi was shocked and had a " ! "
does that mean he was surprised that narut was a clone or that madara found out

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 11 2012, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how would naruto Tnj obito when he doesn't even now the story,Hell,he seems like a third wheal in all this mess i mean whenever obito or madara talks he goes bellastic and jumps,to tnj obito should be kakashi's thing and even kakashi needs someone to tnj him so he could get a hold of himself laugh.gif sleep.gif

Yea, Kakashi could go with him too but i meant if it's only Naruto, he will talk with him like he somewhat did with Nagato and maybe Obito will make some hints about what really happened and what's going on and Naruto tries to reason with him.

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 11 2012, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought about that....wit..when madara said this naruto was a clone ,kakashi was shocked and had a " ! "
does that mean he was surprised that narut was a clone or that madara found out

We don't know for sure cause don't forget that it's a possibility that he might be in the alternate universe of Obito.

Edited by T XD, 11 September 2012 - 05:48 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:46 PM

the last sentence /\ i hope so,i dont wnt him to be anywhere near the kages at this moment
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:49 PM

Bloody hell, the chapter is already out? omfg.gif

I don't want Tsunade to die, especially not in that way. sad.gif But it looks like she might be using the last of her strength to save the rest of the Kages... If she does pass away, who will be Hokage? It feels too early for it to be Naruto as it's his ultimate goal and he still hasn't resolved things with Sasuke.

So Naruto and Bee will be up against Madara, and we're starting to see just what that fan can really do. It looks like it absorbs energy and returns it to the attacker, so Naruto and Bee will have to come up with a way to neutralise it. They're up against the man who defeated the combined strength of the Kages, so Naruto will have to use every ounce of his unpredictable cunning to come out of this alive. Like some people here, I also think the original Naruto is inside Obito's shadow dimension - next time he uses it he'll be in for a nasty surprise.

It looks like we'll get some flashbacks next week, definitely looks like a very old Madara found and revived Obito. Obviously he passed away from extreme old age after he finished training Obito, but we still need to see how the hell he was able to corrupt such a nice guy.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, I just want to say that if Kishi keeps Tsunade alive after what just happened, it will be atrociously terrible writing. I mean, she was freaking cut in half. And is bleeding to death. She needs to die at this point. Someone important needs to die, and Tsunade is the best candidate.


Actually, it's amazing she's alive right now and that she could live long enough to do anything. Not to mention the unbearable agony she must be in.

It's one of those things, like the massively incompentent prison guards, that we as a fandom are asked to hand wave away. Surviving injuries people shouldn't long enough to do or say something meaningful is a stable of many stories.

Also, don't forget Katsuya offered to essential glue her back together and she didn't waive it off because it was a ludicrous idea, but because she is prioritizing the others.


Soo...don't write the death certificate yet! smile.gif

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I don't want Tsunade to die, especially not in that way. But it looks like she might be using the last of her strength to save the rest of the Kages... If she does pass away, who will be Hokage? It feels too early for it to be Naruto as it's his ultimate goal and he still hasn't resolved things with Sasuke.


I'd assume either the power vacuum will be short enough that it will just remain (or be ignored) or Kakashi will keep the seat warm. They could do it now...with Naruto being the true as well as they spiritual leader of the village Sasuke wants to destroy.

If feels like an ending moment, but it doesn't have to be.

I don't know what Kishimoto will do though. Just some ideas.

P.S. I think she will die, but I'm not going to say the type of injury makes it a forgone conclusion.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:03 PM

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Smiter @ Sep 12 2012, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bloody hell, the chapter is already out? omfg.gif

I don't want Tsunade to die, especially not in that way. sad.gif But it looks like she might be using the last of her strength to save the rest of the Kages... If she does pass away, who will be Hokage? It feels too early for it to be Naruto as it's his ultimate goal and he still hasn't resolved things with Sasuke.


Looks like Kakashi is doomed.

QUOTE (Nate River @ Sep 12 2012, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, it's amazing she's alive right now and that she could live long enough to do anything. Not to mention the unbearable agony she must be in.

It's one of those things, like the massively incompentent prison guards, that we as a fandom are asked to hand wave away. Surviving injuries people shouldn't long enough to do or say something meaningful is a stable of many stories.


Surviving would be impossible in real life, neither is being conscious after losing so much blood. But we've seen characters who have survived through far worse, so who knows.

Edited by Nefertieh, 12 September 2012 - 02:28 AM.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Sep 11 2012, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, it's amazing she's alive right now and that she could live long enough to do anything. Not to mention the unbearable agony she must be in.

It's one of those things, like the massively incompentent prison guards, that we as a fandom are asked to hand wave away. Surviving injuries people shouldn't long enough to do or say something meaningful is a stable of many stories.

Also, don't forget Katsuya offered to essential glue her back together and she didn't waive it off because it was a ludicrous idea, but because she is prioritizing the others.


Soo...don't write the death certificate yet! smile.gif



I'd assume either the power vacuum will be short enough that it will just remain (or be ignored) or Kakashi will keep the seat warm. They could do it now...with Naruto being the true as well as they spiritual leader of the village Sasuke wants to destroy.

If feels like an ending moment, but it doesn't have to be.

I don't know what Kishimoto will do though. Just some ideas.

P.S. I think she will die, but I'm not going to say the type of injury makes it a forgone conclusion.


Hmm think Tsunade will heal the Kages and then she dies maybe the alliance with Sakura meets her short before she dies or something like that and im 100 % sure Kishi plans something special with naruto in Obitos dimention maybe defeating him during madara searchs for him. But i still dont know why obito lets madara search for naruto because i think obito knows that naruto is in his dimension.

Maybe he wants to help to defeat madara!

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:40 PM

Something interesting I thought about. Remember how Obito talks to Sasuke all about the Uchiha history and about Madara rivalry with the first hokage (as if he was Madara himself). Do you guys think he was just quoting what old Madara said to him when he was a kid?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:40 PM

I feel kind of sad with my own FC, is hard to read some comments saying that they will be happy now that it seems that Tsunade will die, Sakura can finally get her own development, I'm really angry at Kishimoto for killing Jiraiya, and I will be 7 times angrier if Tsunade die I don't care about any Sakura development, I feel that it can happen without Tsunade dying, she doesn't need to understand Sasuke and Naruto's pain, he just needs to develop her character without killing anyone dear to her, Shizune and Naruto.

You also know why this suck FC? It suck because Tsunade wanted to See Nawaki become Hokage but he dei, then she place her hope on Dan but he also die, know that Naruto the last person she place her faith on is close to become Hokage she might die.

Why Kishi needed place Tsunade 3 times on the verge of death? mad.gif

Damn this Manga is so freaking frustrating.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:04 PM

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 11 2012, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im pretty sure she isnt able to summon slugs and slugs are useless anyway they cant fight/ just heal

One of the tailed beasts -- Saiken -- is a slug capable of fighting. Just saying.

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 11 2012, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The original can't be in Tobi's alternate universe, can he?

I'm really wondering about that too. That Naruto is currently in the other dimension makes some sense, actually.

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, I just want to say that if Kishi keeps Tsunade alive after what just happened, it will be atrociously terrible writing. I mean, she was freaking cut in half. And is bleeding to death. She needs to die at this point. Someone important needs to die, and Tsunade is the best candidate.

It is a documented medical fact that the human body can survive being cut in half. (A few examples here and here -- the second one might be too gory for sensitive types, so view at your own risk.) And using such body trauma in a fictional plot is also not unheard of; it was employed to dramatic effect in the movie Signs.

Not that I disagree with your point -- that Tsunade should die now for the events and the impact to be useful -- I just wanted to point out that Kishimoto didn't conjure the possibility of Tsunade's temporary (or even long-term) survival out of thin air.

QUOTE (Smiter @ Sep 11 2012, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like we'll get some flashbacks next week, definitely looks like a very old Madara found and revived Obito. Obviously he passed away from extreme old age after he finished training Obito, but we still need to see how the hell he was able to corrupt such a nice guy.

There's something I don't get about that, though... I thought corpses revived by Edo Tensei had the appearance of the person at the time of their death. If Madara died as an old man, how does his corpse look so much younger?

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