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#101 Gravenimage

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:54 PM

Cool but we already know that the next chapter should be the big confrontation between the fourth and the Kyuubi or I could be wrong. I think Minato might visit Kushina one last time to tell her his plan and that's what will lead her to ask him to sealed part in her in Naruto like Minato. This mean that this flashback arc could last for another two more chapters, so maybe it will end by 505.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 19 2010, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool but we already know that the next chapter should be the big confrontation between the fourth and the Kyuubi or I could be wrong. I think Minato might visit Kushina one last time to tell her his plan and that's what will lead her to ask him to sealed part in her in Naruto like Minato. This mean that this flashback arc could last for another two more chapters, so maybe it will end by 505.


Yeah I hope the flashback ends soon, so we can get back to seeing Kisame get his butt kicked. happy.gif

Edited by Uzumakikage, 19 July 2010 - 01:57 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2010 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Jul 19 2010, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I hope the flashback ends soon, so we can get back to seeing Kisame get his butt kicked. happy.gif


I don't think it will be like that I have said a long time ago. It doesn't matter if Kisame has a lot of chakra it will be suicide to take on two jinchurikkis who have tamed their Bijuu and can unlock their true potential. After the flashback of the Kyuubi attack on Konoha ends Naruto might ask Yamato to leave the island because he thinks this is all just a training trip, Yamato might end up spilling the beans to him that this is all just a plan to keep him and Bee isolated from Akatsuki as the plan before the war begins.

Naruto will definetely leave the island returning to Konoha he will be against the idea that he's going to stay doing nothing in the war. Bee might stay and just when Naruto leaves Kisame will make his move. We can't forget that Madara ordered Kisame to capture the eight tails not the nine tails, I still strongly believe that it will be Sasuke the one to get the order to capture Naruto.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 19 2010, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it will be like that I have said a long time ago. It doesn't matter if Kisame has a lot of chakra it will be suicide to take on two jinchurikkis who have tamed their Bijuu and can unlock their true potential. After the flashback of the Kyuubi attack on Konoha ends Naruto might ask Yamato to leave the island because he thinks this is all just a training trip, Yamato might end up spilling the beans to him that this is all just a plan to keep him and Bee isolated from Akatsuki as the plan before the war begins.

Naruto will definetely leave the island returning to Konoha he will be against the idea that he's going to stay doing nothing in the war. Bee might stay and just when Naruto leaves Kisame will make his move. We can't forget that Madara ordered Kisame to capture the eight tails not the nine tails, I still strongly believe that it will be Sasuke the one to get the order to capture Naruto.


I strongly agree about the sasuke part. I also Imagine that when that goes down it will be in a similar fashion as gaara went down against deidara. I am not saying there will be a massive explosion which knocks him out, but rather he will be taken down when sasuke takes a cheap shot to get the upper hand.

Anyways back on topic, I wanna see what madara does now, is he considered defeated and done fighting for now, or is he going to retaliate thats my question. I do not think he is done yet, because a single rasengan should not be enough to stop him.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:08 PM

dont forget too that as Pein found out the hard way Naruto has an new edge against chakra sucking things like sameheda.

Sage mode may prove a case of indigestion for the sharkskin sword.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jul 19 2010, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dont forget too that as Pein found out the hard way Naruto has an new edge against chakra sucking things like sameheda.

Sage mode may prove a case of indigestion for the sharkskin sword.

HAHAHA....now that just gave me the funniest image ever! Nice! laugh.gif

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jul 19 2010, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dont forget too that as Pein found out the hard way Naruto has an new edge against chakra sucking things like sameheda.

Sage mode may prove a case of indigestion for the sharkskin sword.

Kisame will have a hard time wielding a toad statue!

actually, I wonder if it would get him too, since he uses the chakra from it

Edited by pharix, 19 July 2010 - 07:33 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (pharix @ Jul 19 2010, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kisame will have a hard time wielding a toad statue!

actually, I wonder if it would get him too, since he uses the chakra from it


It would be extremely lame if Kisame were to be defeated by being turned into a statue, at least the double lariat decaptation looked much more awesome.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:54 PM

I doubt it will be Naruto fighting Kisame either it will be Bee again or probably Gai why else did Kishi made him come along with Naruto and Yamato? he probably wants Gai to finish what he and Kisame started at their fight during the rescue Gaara arc.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 19 2010, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt it will be Naruto fighting Kisame either it will be Bee again or probably Gai why else did Kishi made him come along with Naruto and Yamato? he probably wants Gai to finish what he and Kisame started at their fight during the rescue Gaara arc.


Actually this fight started long time ago when Itachi came to Konoha after Naruto sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE (alexander @ Jul 19 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually this fight started long time ago when Itachi came to Konoha after Naruto sweatdrop.gif


I know but it wasn't really fight because they only came to get Naruto not to look for a fight.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:52 PM

I know one thing is for certain and that is Naruto is probably going to kick some major butt once the flashbacks are done and we get back to fighting.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:04 AM

I can't wait for the fighting to come back! >:D

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:06 AM

QUOTE (Toasty Warrior @ Jul 19 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know one thing is for certain and that is Naruto is probably going to kick some major butt once the flashbacks are done and we get back to fighting.


Don't get your hopes up. We all thought the same thing when he came back from his 2 1/2 year trip with Jiraiya, and that was a bust. We thought the same thing about his fight with Pain, and then he lost. Badly.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:12 AM

Flash backs have there perks in all, but they get really boring fast, no matter how much action is them. I really hope these flash backs end soon so we can go back to Naruto kicking butt wink.gif

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:04 AM

QUOTE (KungFuTruffle @ Jul 19 2010, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't get your hopes up. We all thought the same thing when he came back from his 2 1/2 year trip with Jiraiya, and that was a bust. We thought the same thing about his fight with Pain, and then he lost. Badly.


Wait, what? huh.gif

Are we in the same page here? Naruto didn't lose to Pain. He basically dominated the whole field; until Pain used the advantage of "killing" the people Naruto cared (Fukasaku and... the fandom's goddess). There was no losing in that fight. If he had lose, wouldn't we see him being captured by Pain and Kyuubi being extracted while Sakura and the others having a panic attack searching for Naruto.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:20 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Jul 19 2010, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, what? huh.gif

Are we in the same page here? Naruto didn't lose to Pain. He basically dominated the whole field; until Pain used the advantage of "killing" the people Naruto cared (Fukasaku and... the fandom's goddess). There was no losing in that fight. If he had lose, wouldn't we see him being captured by Pain and Kyuubi being extracted while Sakura and the others having a panic attack searching for Naruto.


Naruto was pinned down by multiple rods piercing his body, couldn't move, and had to be rescued by Hinata. What part of that is winning?

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:26 AM

QUOTE (KungFuTruffle @ Jul 20 2010, 03:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto was pinned down by multiple rods piercing his body, couldn't move, and had to be rescued by Hinata. What part of that is winning?


Well, he was doing pretty fine for someone facing 6 opponents at the same time sweatdrop.gif , but i gotta agree that if wasn't for Hinata interferance, Naruto would have lost. By the way, @Derock, I seriously laughed at the "fandom godess" part, it perfectly fits with Hinata laugh.gif

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:30 AM

QUOTE (KungFuTruffle @ Jul 19 2010, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto was pinned down by multiple rods piercing his body, couldn't move, and had to be rescued by Hinata. What part of that is winning?


Uh... As I said before, Pain gain the advantage of distracting Naruto by taking the life of a friend/ally (well, for Hinata's case, it was a suicidal attempt to get his attention of confessing her love for him, and what can he basically do about that?) when he's trying to save them.

Put yourself in Naruto's shoes for one minute:

What would you do if one of your friends was suddenly Shinra Tensei and to be impaled by the rod?

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By the way, @Derock, I seriously laughed at the "fandom godess" part, it perfectly fits with Hinata laugh.gif


Well, today, she is exactly that. Now this needs a meme.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:45 AM

QUOTE (KungFuTruffle @ Jul 20 2010, 03:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto was pinned down by multiple rods piercing his body, couldn't move, and had to be rescued by Hinata. What part of that is winning?


The old adage "better lucky than good" comes to mind for Naruto's fight with Pain. You're right though, that fight was not the the complete Naruto ass kicking that was thought to have happened.

However, to be fair, Naruto didn't lose as "badly" as you stated. That would imply that he was completely dominated during his battle with Pain. Instead, he was able to defeat 5 out of the 6 paths of Pain compared to Jiraiya's 1 out of 6. Albeit, Naruto had help - intel from Katsuya, Gamabunta and the other giant toads, ma and pa toad, and ultimately Hinata (*gasps*).

It's hard to call it a loss when at the end of the day, Naruto walked away from the battle and Pain didn't. Although, calling it a win wouldn't actually do it justice either. It was messy - pretty much what a battlefield is supposed to be like. Now, if only the Dragonball like resolution didn't cheapen the whole affair.

QUOTE (Derock @ Jul 20 2010, 03:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh... As I said before, Pain gain the advantage of distracting Naruto by taking the life of a friend/ally (well, for Hinata's case, it was a suicidal attempt to get his attention of confessing her love for him, and what can he basically do about that?) when he's trying to save them.

Put yourself in Naruto's shoes for one minute:

What would you do if one of your friends was suddenly Shinra Tensei and to be impaled by the rod?


Such as it is in war. Pain used a tactic to gain an advantage over Naruto. That was hardly surprising. Naruto had an advantage with Katsuya feeding him information on each of the individual abilities of the various Pains. Both sides had checks and balances.

To answer your question, I personally probably would have done the exact same thing as Naruto. However, what Naruto should have done is taken advantage of Pain's recharge time and attacked God Pain and be done with it. I wonder if the academy will cover that in military history lol.

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