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[Kyuudaime]

Naruto failed the genin entrance exam twice, therefore he is older, also his wiki page listed him originally as 13 and Sakura at 12 when they were genin.

But you're assuming that him and Sakura started at the same age and you're assuming that the wiki page is right.

[primary colours123]

Hey,
Just saw the OneManga version. Thank you Mr Uzumakikage.
But did anyone notice that in this version somehow all the Hatred seems to be concentrating against Sasuke? The other version made it look ike the words were spoken by many people which Naruto is recalling, but here it seems as if these are all Naruto's own thoughts and somehow seem to be directed against Sasuke. Of course, due to the extremely ambiguous presentation, it's all up for different interpretations.
Moreover Kyuubi reminded me too much of part one Itachi, with all his "your hatred compared to mine" speech. No wonder Uchihas could control Kyuubi, they were all hatred freaks.XP
@ Ms Ciardha: Thanks for the background Information. I really would not have noted any of that myself. Though as pointed out by Mr Insurrection there are many conflicting evidences. I'm still confused and I suppose will remain so till Mr Kishimoto decides to clarify.
Anyways, I really don't think it matters except for the established fact that Naruto and Sakura could not have possibly been born to the same mother with those birthdates.
Take care.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

But you're assuming that him and Sakura started at the same age and you're assuming that the wiki page is right.

I really don't trust wiki. Anyone can edit, and some facts there are seemingly biased.

[Kyuudaime]

I really don't trust wiki. Anyone can edit, and some facts there are seemingly biased.

I only trust the stuff that seems to be logical with no other alternatives really.

[Insurrection]

But you're assuming that him and Sakura started at the same age and you're assuming that the wiki page is right.

I really don't trust wiki. Anyone can edit, and some facts there are seemingly biased.

Yeah, that's true, but I'm still going with Naruto is older, since he failed before then passed with the others. It just makes more sense to me, but it could be possible of the opposite, however I think it's enough to suggest he's the oldest of his class.

Sasuke though confounds me, I don't know about him because of plotholes. The storyline has various plotholes.

Edited by Insurrection, 05 June 2010 - 07:20 AM.

[Derock]

Yeah, that's true, but I'm still going with Naruto is older, since he failed before then passed with the others. It just makes more sense to me, but it could be possible of the opposite, however I think it's enough to suggest he's the oldest of his class.

Sasuke though confounds me, I don't know about him because of plotholes. The storyline has various plotholes.

See, and this is why the timeline is very confusing to me. Even though, Kishimoto wrote down the days and months, what are the years? Which character in Naruto's generation is the eldest and the youngest? When was a certain event (Ninja Wars, Kyuubi attack, Naruto failed the exam 3 times in the Academy, etc.) occurred? Or better yet, what's the actual season these events occurred? These are just basic plotholes that needs to be answer so it can make sense.

You know what, instead of asking the man questions about pairings, a certain character or an upcoming fight scene, how about asking Kishimoto about the actual occurrances of these events? Do they follow an complicated timeline, sort of like Dragonball with its timeline? (I remember that timeline started around 1000 year or was it 100 year... something like that).

[Dreamer]

I notice people are assuming Sakura is older than Naruto because Kishi drew her before Naruto, that is irrelevant ands holds no weight to given ages of the characters in the manga plot. Kishi can make them whatever age he wants them to be in the story.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 05 June 2010 - 11:42 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Okay, I think I finally have a way to settle this.

I am going to assume, since there is nothing against this that I can think off, is that all standardize testing is similar. The test in Naruto's school would be similar to that of say "FCAT" like I have here (Florida's Comprehensive Assessment Test). Some of you might have this test but call it something different.

I am going to assume the position that while japanese and american schools are different, they both have this test that unless you pass it you cannot go to the next grade.

Now some test I know of you can not take until you are say a certain age. This could prove that they changed the rules of the test that you have to be a certain age before you can take. This could explain that Naurto is older since he tried it first and failed it before most of his other classmates. This is assuming of course that no other kids failed the test but him.

Now when I took my FCATs one year I actually failed it the first time. I had to take it again. I didn't have to wait a year before I retook it the test. I only had to wait a mere 3-4 months to take it again so long as I took it before graduation. I actually took the retest while other classes were taking theirs. Setting these test up is a long process so not doubt that when a graduating class takes the test, they have to use the whole school and set days up so only certain grades take it. You also still stay in school after you take this test, it's just a test to make sure you comprehend what you were taught so far.

This could be what Naruto had to do. He failed it the first time, and then waited again until the others were taking the test and took it again.

That is the best theory I got.

Now we know that Sakura and Naruto are born months apart. No matter where you look at March 28 and October 10 are less than 7 months apart. Not long enough to have two babies by one mother.

We know for a fact that Sakura and Naruto are about the same age. It's not like a three year difference. Otherwise Naruto would be 18 by now and he's not.

If Naruto is indeed older then Kushina died long before Sakura was born so no they can't be siblings
If Sakura is older then Kushina was pregnant with Naruto at the time and so again no.

The only thing that would make this factual is if they were twins and since we know they were born in different months, then no.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 05 June 2010 - 12:17 PM.

[ciardha]

Naruto failed the genin entrance exam twice, therefore he is older, also his wiki page listed him originally as 13 and Sakura at 12 when they were genin.

US wiki page Worst source possible. Look to the Japanese sources instead. Both the first databook and the anime info book list Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke as 12. Also, note the different graduation ages of characters, above, also Itachi graduated at 7, Sai at 10, Minato at 10, etc... For some reason Naruto was tested on the kage bushin test three times and failed it. Also Naruto was still 15 when part 2 started, he turned 16 when the story hit his birthday, it's not yet spring in the manga since then, but the third Japanese databook lists Sakura as 16, thus she's the oldest, and nearly 17.

[primary colours123]

Hey,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the third databook list both Naruto and Sakura (as well as others) as 15-16?
I'm not very sure about it. Sakura's age has not been stated in part two. Naruto's age, however has been stated when he met his father.
Take care.

[Dreamer]

Hey,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the third databook list both Naruto and Sakura (as well as others) as 15-16?
I'm not very sure about it. Sakura's age has not been stated in part two. Naruto's age, however has been stated when he met his father.
Take care.

Your right it does say that, lot of people are going by only the months between the two without knowing the exact year of their birth. For all we know she could be just now turning 16 or 17.

Lol, i think were getting way off topic though. I'm hoping Kishi doesn't hold back on telling everything about Kushina and her past at Whirlpool country .

[harry4e]

You know what's worse?
Someone in NF made a theory on how Kyuubi is gonna be beaten with the "power of love". It was great and all, until he/she mentioned that thanks to Kushina, Naruto would remember Hinata's love for him and would make him beat the Kyuubi. If you guys saw it, you know who he/she is.

Yup makes perfect sense, when you consider it was her love that fully unleashed his hatred and went 9 tails..lol Nah if Naruto is to overcome the Kyuubi using his love, it will start off with Iruka, who is always the first person that is mentioned when mentioning Naruto's past and being acknowledged, (Hinata might have acknowledged him first but from a distance so as far as Naruto knew it never happened) then probably the Hokage, then most likely Kakashi, then Sasuke, then Sakura, then Konohamaru and after that we'd probably see the rest of Konoha 12, (including Hinata,) Then we have Jiraya, Gaara, Tsunade and then everyone else.

We might actually see something like that, Naruto pulling the Kyuubi's chakra and then ghosts of those who believe in him helping him.

As for who Kushina looks like the strangest one i've seen is, Orihime with Sakura's eyes.

[ciardha]

Hey,
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the third databook list both Naruto and Sakura (as well as others) as 15-16?
I'm not very sure about it. Sakura's age has not been stated in part two. Naruto's age, however has been stated when he met his father.
Take care.

Both 16 in 3rd databook, both 13 in second databook, both 12 in first databook. We know Naruto was still 15 when he returned (a bit over 15 1/2 to be specific) because several times the Kyuubi attack on Konoha was referenced and how long ago it occurred was mentioned- the first few times it was referenced it was said to be 15 years ago, but when Jiraiya was killed, for the first time it was referenced as 16 years ago. So Jiraiya apparently was killed around Naruto's 16th birthday.

[Insurrection]

Yeah, that's true, but I'm still going with Naruto is older, since he failed before then passed with the others. It just makes more sense to me, but it could be possible of the opposite, however I think it's enough to suggest he's the oldest of his class.

Sasuke though confounds me, I don't know about him because of plotholes. The storyline has various plotholes.

That's me correcting myself

US wiki page Worst source possible. Look to the Japanese sources instead. Both the first databook and the anime info book list Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke as 12. Also, note the different graduation ages of characters, above, also Itachi graduated at 7, Sai at 10, Minato at 10, etc... For some reason Naruto was tested on the kage bushin test three times and failed it. Also Naruto was still 15 when part 2 started, he turned 16 when the story hit his birthday, it's not yet spring in the manga since then, but the third Japanese databook lists Sakura as 16, thus she's the oldest, and nearly 17.

This is you going backwards onto topic.

Moving on.

[Gravenimage]

One Manga version is out!
I thought the quality was much better on Bee's words.

Agree Uzukmakikage one manga translation is better than mangastream.

[Black Rose]

You know what's worse?
Someone in NF made a theory on how Kyuubi is gonna be beaten with the "power of love". It was great and all, until he/she mentioned that thanks to Kushina, Naruto would remember Hinata's love for him and would make him beat the Kyuubi. If you guys saw it, you know who he/she is.



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[Strangelove]

lol, a mother's love to beat Kyuubi, it doesn't have anything to do with Hinata.

Edited by Strangelove, 05 June 2010 - 11:56 PM.

[Insurrection]

lol, a mother's love to beat Kyuubi, it doesn't have anything to do with Hinata.

Hug a demon fox, gain untold power.

Edited by Insurrection, 06 June 2010 - 12:10 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

lol, a mother's love to beat Kyuubi, it doesn't have anything to do with Hinata.

Right and Hinata knows nothing about being a mother....unless.....KIBA!!!! You naughty dog.

[Mik3]

Who gives a ISH about NaruHina theorys FROM Narutofan. Why do we always need to mention them