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#11961 luffyq1

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 4 2013, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's bother you? :/ I said that he's still decent anyway


You said that he wasn't special shamefulcry0js.gif

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#11962 六道仙人

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Mar 4 2013, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You said that he wasn't special shamefulcry0js.gif


well, maybe it was a little rude but it's truth... Don't worry, for me he's still better than mangastream wink.gif

But what I tryng to say here is true: In these lastet years the quality of translations is getting more poor and this's sad...


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#11963 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 4 2013, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well, maybe it was a little rude but it's truth... Don't worry, for me he's still better than mangastream ;)

But what I tryng to say here is true: In these lastet years the quality of translations is getting more poor and this's sad...

It's like we got to be hip, yo! That's...really lame. Thank god my Halo novels didn't get tarnished. Then again, they are novels.

#11964 KeikoxYusuke

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 3 2013, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The best NS moment for me from the OPs and EDs is New Song, intro 10, where Naruto is inches away from Sakura's face XD. I also like their reactions in this scene.



I have it as my Siggy on Gaiaonline right now. wink.gif


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#11965 soraandven

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

i don't think viz media supports nh besides i don't think theres really an official translation although i did find chapter 469 by viz media and that transkation felt alot clearer

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#11966 redragon88

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (coolcatjas @ Mar 4 2013, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah it just sucks ): Viz wants the translations to be as easy to read for English readers as possible. But unfortunately in doing so they cut corners and add words. Cut corners if its too difficult to translate in a way that makes sense and add words to try to give the same "feeling" as the Japanese transcript. They are trying to "professional" translators and therefor make changes which can, sadly, lead to misunderstanding. "Lost in translation" if you will.

...or maybe it's like you said and Viz does indeed support NH xD

It's still a mystery to me as to why they changed Kushina's advice about girls. "Don't fall for a weird one." looks pretty straight forward to me. It's funny how in Storm 3 Kushina properly delivers the correct advice in the japanese dub, but the english subs still change it to "first girl that comes your way.".

Then again "first girl that comes your way" could mean the first girl that declares she likes you, so Hinata looses either way. tongue.gif

Edited by redragon88, 04 March 2013 - 08:39 PM.


#11967 luffyq1

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 4 2013, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's still a mystery to me as to why they changed Kushina's advice about girls. "Don't fall for a weird one." looks pretty straight forward to me. It's funny how in Storm 3 Kushina properly delivers the correct advice in the japanese dub, but the english subs still change it to "first girl that comes your way.".

Then again "first girl that comes your way" could mean the first girl that declares she likes you, so Hinata looses either way. tongue.gif


"Find a girl like me" can't be twisted to fit NH.

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#11968 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Mar 4 2013, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Find a girl like me" can't be twisted to fit NH.

Unless for some unknown reason she becames a tsundere and decides to change her hair color to red
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#11969 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (soraandven @ Mar 4 2013, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i don't think viz media supports nh besides i don't think theres really an official translation although i did find chapter 469 by viz media and that transkation felt alot clearer

Neither do I. Again, they only making too straightforward without having certain impacts. It's a downside. But hey, I got the first volume of part 2 with a free color page! Hooray!

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 4 2013, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unless for some unknown reason she becames a tsundere and decides to change her hair color to red

And decided to hate one aspect of her body (maybe looking too much of Rock Lee's hair?). Heck, let's have her get a pupil in her eyes. Start dressing like Kushina. Ok, that's pushing it but yeah. tongue.gif

#11970 redragon88

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 4 2013, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And decided to hate one aspect of her body (maybe looking too much of Rock Lee's hair?). Heck, let's have her get a pupil in her eyes. Start dressing like Kushina. Ok, that's pushing it but yeah. tongue.gif

Didn't the Rock Lee manga made fun of that. I think Hinata actually got depressed for the association of hairstyle. laugh.gif

Funny enough both of them also tend to use polite speech when addressing people (-kun for guys and -san for girls). Both also had a certain rivalry with Neji at given points. And of course the fact that they both have unrequited crushes on one of the main characters.

It's almost like they kindred spirits fighting the same battle.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 4 2013, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't the Rock Lee manga made fun of that. I think Hinata actually got depressed for the association of hairstyle. laugh.gif

Funny enough both of them also tend to use polite speech when addressing people (-kun for guys and -san for girls). Both also had a certain rivalry with Neji at given points. And of course the fact that they both have unrequited crushes on one of the main characters.

It's almost like they kindred spirits fighting the same battle.

Actually, that's where I got the joke from. laugh.gif Now, I think about it, maybe the love story between Naruto/Sakura could have ended if Naruto said something about her forehead in the beginning of part 2. She was incredibly happy seeing him again. Oh well, the journey continues.

That is funny how you pointed that out. Not to forget that they are proud failures. Sad how people really downplay Rock Lee's love for Sakura. Yes, he won't win her, though prefer over SS, but sheesh, it is there still. If he can't win, why Hinata has to? It goes to show you that side characters can't win them all. Naruto, on the other hand, has to if he's the role model that Kishi planned to made.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:24 PM

hey redragon in case you don't know cc2 used viz's translation for kushina's words in storm 3 have a look for yourself

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE (soraandven @ Mar 4 2013, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey redragon in case you don't know cc2 used viz's translation for kushina's words in storm 3 have a look for yourself

Wait, is that good or bad thing?

#11974 soraandven

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:30 PM

nah just trying to show that viz media isn't biased although if you want my opinion id say its a good thing

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE (soraandven @ Mar 4 2013, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey redragon in case you don't know cc2 used viz's translation for kushina's words in storm 3 have a look for yourself

I know. I mentioned it in a post above.

The japanese dub was kept accurate with the "Don't fall for a weird one", but the english was changed to "Don't fall for the first girl that comes your way".

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE (soraandven @ Mar 4 2013, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nah just trying to show that viz media isn't biased although if you want my opinion id say its a good thing

You mean the way how she sounded like Hinata has no chance while Sakura is the most likely answer.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (soraandven @ Mar 4 2013, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nah just trying to show that viz media isn't biased although if you want my opinion id say its a good thing

How does that prove they aren't biased? I'm not saying they are, but I really don't get what you're trying to explain

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 4 2013, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How does that prove they aren't biased? I'm not saying they are, but I really don't get what you're trying to explain

I can't say that they are biased, but I can say they butchered the moment at times. I'm just glad the databook is very close to Japanese original writings.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

pretty much besides naruto still has feelings for sakura anyway

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (soraandven @ Mar 4 2013, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
pretty much besides naruto still has feelings for sakura anyway

He will always have that feeling. It just that we need one more confirmation. Honestly, one more time will kill any chance for anything. You know, if he did change feelings, you would assume the ending would be different, despite being the fact it's made up. Either way, they could have shift focus, but they didn't. So, what is it that people are missing?




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