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#11941 Qia

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 01:27 AM

why would they hate her for that? They are shipping way too hard if they do that !

It's not like she isn't his closest female friend , and the one he had since he was 12!

Blah...I don't like that kind of talk.

They still have a deep bond, and that's what counts!

Because some people are that petty, especially if they are fans of Hinata who believe she's more worthy of the heroine role. This is just giving them more proof for that, essentially. It's nice that you're not one of those people...but I've encountered far too many since the last chapter, and I know for a fact there would be even more after this movie if Sakura were to be shown rejecting Naruto for Sasuke. I'd rather a confession just not happen at that point tbh ;-; 


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 01:32 AM

Now I feeling the pain for both  of them.


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 01:38 AM

The movie will make naruto(the fake one who gives up) "fall in love " with Hinata-sama for real, they will introduce the asspul scarf, the asspul kidnapping, the asspull alien Toneri, and thanks to this Naruto will miraculously begin to love hinata

Truly pathetic, naruhina could work if it had development but there isn't, so that's why this stupid movie exists.

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 01:51 AM

Here is the even worse reality check...it's not like they will "love" Naruto now because he is with Hinata. That's probably the biggest lie any one of them would live.

The sad reality that everyone is forgetting is that....everyone's bar had to be lowered just to make Hinata "look" better. You couldn't make her a better character so you have to lower Sakura's character indefinitly...you had to lower Naruto's indefinitely and make him this bleeding heart just for Hinata to even have a chance. That's all there is. You can't make Hinata a strong women, so you make Naruto weak and pathetic so she only appears strong.

Isn't that sad? I think that is the saddest reality I can think so and worse when very few really see that.

 

I know. It's awful. They both had to lose. Sakura lost her development, her goals, her everything. She lost her love for Naruto. And Naruto lost his heart's desire. He had to change who he is, he had to give up. He didn't surpass Jiraiya or Obito or Tsunade or Yahiko or his parents. He lost his love too. 

 

And ending up with Hinata doesn't fix those things. Hinata gets what she wants, but Naruto loses out. And the readers are supposed to be happy for him? For this? It's not a happy ending. (The same goes for Sakura — Sasuke gets someone he never wanted, and Sakura loses out. So sad.) 



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Posted 17 November 2014 - 01:59 AM

If you think Kishi will force NH in our throats with this movie, if you agree say" aye!".

 

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 02:03 AM

 

I know. It's awful. They both had to lose. Sakura lost her development, her goals, her everything. She lost her love for Naruto. And Naruto lost his heart's desire. He had to change who he is, he had to give up. He didn't surpass Jiraiya or Obito or Tsunade or Yahiko or his parents. He lost his love too. 

 

And ending up with Hinata doesn't fix those things. Hinata gets what she wants, but Naruto loses out. And the readers are supposed to be happy for him? For this? It's not a happy ending. (The same goes for Sakura — Sasuke gets someone he never wanted, and Sakura loses out. So sad.) 

What a backwards world we live in huh? This is why I feel like the world has lost something...something important.

 


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 02:03 AM

If you think Kishi will force NH in our throats with this movie, if you agree say" aye!".
 
Like Happy from Fairy Tail.

Aye, sir!

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 02:04 AM

If you think Kishi will force NH in our throats with this movie, if you agree say" aye!".

 

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 02:32 AM

i don't think those are gloves. the top part is curved and very small almost shaped like a clothes iron :sweat:

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 02:45 AM

Lol ... his assistant is mad at us because we do not understand why a woman still cares for a man who tried to kill her at least 3 times? Seriously?!

 

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 03:48 AM

Can anyone of our translators translate this tweet?

 

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This is supposed to someone who received word from Kishimoto about ch 699 saying that it's about the same as was planned 8 years ago. I'm not really sure if I should believe this but Takl seems to trust this guy for some reason.

 

 

Also this.

Here The first tweet: 

 
The series that lasted 15 years is over... We joined our efforts in the publication of that series for 12 years and it still feels like it was yesterdays. 8 years ago, I was told about the ending... Some little modifications/adjustments were made, but what was shown was the same beautiful plot/ending I was told back at that time..... Really good work Kishimoto-sensei for those 15 years!
 
And the tweet in which Kishimoto's assistant criticize NS fans: 
 
Again, NaruSaku fans/believers didn't understand.
Were they completely ignoring Sakura's feelings?
The one who still love/has feelings the most with all her heart despite having been betrayed is Sakura, I'm sure she'll be happy. Are those feelings so hard to understand? 

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 03:51 AM

Personally, I don't think Naruto ever had Sakura as one of his goals. If he ever did, it would seem like he never truly loved her, and would make it seem like he only ever wanted to get into her pants.

The most kittened up thing about this movie is that it seems to be retconning Naruto's feelings for Sakura as a shallow crush. What were they smoking?

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:00 AM

So that's it...abuse gets romanticized and nothing's going to be done about it?  :twitch:


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:02 AM

Here The first tweet: 
 
The series that lasted 15 years is over... We joined our efforts in the publication of that series for 12 years and it still feels like it was yesterdays. 8 years ago, I was told about the ending... Some little modifications/adjustments were made, but what was shown was the same beautiful plot/ending I was told back at that time..... Really good work Kishimoto-sensei for those 15 years!
 
And the tweet in which Kishimoto's assistant criticize NS fans: 
 
Again, NaruSaku fans/believers didn't understand.
Were they completely ignoring Sakura's feelings?
The one who still love/has feelings the most with all her heart despite having been betrayed is Sakura, I'm sure she'll be happy. Are those feelings so hard to understand? 

someone should ask him about sasuke's feelings, he said only 7chapters ago thst he isn't interested in Sakura, and mocked her for "playing at love"if I remember that quote right....even without that panel, you would think murder would put romance off the table ...seems he doesn't get it.

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:06 AM

 

Here The first tweet: 

 
The series that lasted 15 years is over... We joined our efforts in the publication of that series for 12 years and it still feels like it was yesterdays. 8 years ago, I was told about the ending... Some little modifications/adjustments were made, but what was shown was the same beautiful plot/ending I was told back at that time..... Really good work Kishimoto-sensei for those 15 years!
 
And the tweet in which Kishimoto's assistant criticize NS fans: 
 
Again, NaruSaku fans/believers didn't understand.
Were they completely ignoring Sakura's feelings?
The one who still love/has feelings the most with all her heart despite having been betrayed is Sakura, I'm sure she'll be happy. Are those feelings so hard to understand? 

 

Thank you for all your translations and help.

Not surprising.  This assistant was the one that said Naruto stopped chasing Sakura romantically since Pein arc and that Sakura loves Sasuke to the point of pain.  Also asked what fans thought of "Volume 64"... we all know which volume that is. *rolls eyes* 


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:18 AM

So...what....we should send Kishimoto death threats and claim them as us showing our love and support?

"Yes, Kishimoto and Kishimoto's assistant...we love you so much we want to torture you to death. What? What do you mean that is not love? Maybe you are just not understanding us correctly."

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

can someone please tell this so called assistant, that SS is pure kitten & that he doesn't understand the meaning of true love. Thank you.

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:24 AM

Thank you for all your translations and help.

Not surprising.  This assistant was the one that said Naruto stopped chasing Sakura romantically since Pein arc and that Sakura loves Sasuke to the point of pain.  Also asked what fans thought of "Volume 64"... we all know which volume that is. *rolls eyes* 

So Naruto would stop chasing Sakura romantically because Hinata confessed to him? I can understand wanting to look for other opportunities but that makes absolutely no sense.

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:30 AM



Ok this will sound dumb, and will date me, but are those POGS? I haven't seen Pogs in forever.

i think it's a regular badge. the surface is shiny.



And the tweet in which not Kishimoto's assistant criticize NS fans: 

 
Again, NaruSaku fans/believers didn't understand.
Were they completely ignoring Sakura's feelings?
The one who still love/has feelings the most with all her heart despite having been betrayed is Sakura, I'm sure she'll be happy. Are those feelings so hard to understand? 

 

thank you sakuyahime! but isn't this link_papa twitter account just some shop twitter account? 

 

their description on the twitter page (by google translate)

 

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(Reposting my thoughts on the movie from the chapter thread to this one, cause I realized it's better suited for this thread! lol)

 

What's going to be worse is if the movies starts with an SS wedding or romance, and then the rest of the movie is Naruto licking his wounds, getting over his 'crush' then finding his 'true love' with Hinata. 

 

If it goes down that way, and I'm really afraid it's going to, then the whole movie is going to be one long put-down of Sakura, the ultimate backhanded insult. Yes, Sakura will finally get her Sasuke, but she will be the one who broke Naruto's heart while Hinata is the one who repairs it. So even though on the surface it looks like she has finally achieved her goal, she really be a negative or secondary character by driving the main character into the arms of another truer love.

 

The manga chapters were bad enough — she's regressed in her development to accept Sasuke, and she's shown as a housewife which was not one of her goals — but the movie could slide Sakura back yet another notch by making her Naruto's only heartbreak.

 

I'm not expecting the worst.... But I think at this point I'm don't expect them to do right by Sakura. I think in twisting Hinata into some kind of main heroine, their going to force Sakura to be a plot device for the NH romance. 

 

Can I hate a movie that hasn't already come out? Cause I really think I do.

 

.. i think the childhood scarf memory, kidnapping, and forced bride plot is already very laughable. what's one more regression to sakura's /naruto's character going to do.  :excited:


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:44 AM

Here The first tweet: 
 
The series that lasted 15 years is over... We joined our efforts in the publication of that series for 12 years and it still feels like it was yesterdays. 8 years ago, I was told about the ending... Some little modifications/adjustments were made, but what was shown was the same beautiful plot/ending I was told back at that time..... Really good work Kishimoto-sensei for those 15 years!
 
And the tweet in which Kishimoto's assistant criticize NS fans: 
 
Again, NaruSaku fans/believers didn't understand.
Were they completely ignoring Sakura's feelings?
The one who still love/has feelings the most with all her heart despite having been betrayed is Sakura, I'm sure she'll be happy. Are those feelings so hard to understand? 


I refuse to believe that the ignorance displayed in that last tweet belongs to Kishimoto or anyone that is affiliated with him. Is there any proof that the tweet is real, and that it belongs to the "assistant"? Because I refuse to believe that someone associated with the manga would be that out of touch with the fanbase to justify the amount of idiocy that was spewed from that tweet.

The supposed assistant speaks of understanding Sakura's feelings, please tell me how we should accept her feelings that have never been shown anything past fangirlism for a person that she doesn't know in the slightest, that she only liked as a way to be accepted in school, that has taken every opportunity to belittle her with zero care for her, that has tried to murder her on numerous occasions, and that has literally taken her dreams and spit them back in her face because she is now a damn housewife with zero self-respect.

Maybe, while he's busy tweeting, he can tweet how we should understand how Naruto, the man who has done nothing but love her, sacrifice for her, and was literally one of two people to make her into a (former) great kunoichi, get tossed to the side as soon as the person that has done nothing but hurt Sakura comes back. Maybe he can help us understand all those years of development and growing bonds between the two. Maybe he can help us understand all the parallels, the scene with Minato, and everything else. Maybe he can help us understand the reason that Naruto was the one that complimented Sakura's biggest insecurity, yet Sasuke takes that spotlight in a subtle "kitten you" to NS supporters around the world.

Maybe he can help us understand how Naruto had his feelings get spit back in his face and had to apparently end up with a person who has never thought of him for his sake, and has only though of him for her sake.

Maybe he can help us understand how Sasuke has never cared about Sakura, and then all of a sudden turns around and is in a relationship with her, while Naruto has to watch on with a broken heart because of it.

Mayr he can help us understand the messages Kishimoto sent out, like that it's ok to romanticize abuse, that the things Sasuke has done are ok, or how the feelings of the "nice guy" don't matter, because they always finish last in the face of a murdering, abusive, scumbag-turned-hero.

Maybe this so-called "assistant" should start tweeting explanations, because I'll be damned if they're in the train wreck that turned out to be the manga. It's astonishing to me how out of touch someone that is supposedly so close to Kishi can be so far away from the fanbase. That's why I doubt that it was a real tweet from the assistant. There is no way anyone closely affiliated with Kishi would post such utter nonsense, and honestly, it's beyond offensive and insulting, if it indeed turns out to be that this clown is the real deal.

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