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[Sojobo]

Lol I discussed in the podcast. But yes, I remember that. Oddly enough, that ending did suck and no, it's not because it's Hinata. It's just...well, just is.

Bad drawing/animation and signing. I would say the same thing if it was Sakura.
This ED sucked a lot to me.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bad drawing/animation and signing. I would say the same thing if it was Sakura.
This ED sucked a lot to me.

It could be anyone and it will still be lame. Honest to god, it was a dud. Maybe that's why we don't get another one, but I digress. I like your sig.


Btw, I like all the posts I read, including redragon88.

[Don-kun]

Well I did update my post, but at least that's good news. I do think it may focus Madara (yeah they're bad at keeping it a secret) as well as Naruto and Tobi the most. But again, there's a good chance of what you say. We'll just have to wait and see. Maybe the ending has a better chance. Luckily, there's actually chances for fans. Unlike color pages in manga. Sure way to dodge NH in color. I admit I laughed. But I digress. I'm surprised they haven't made a one full fledge ending of NH, both side. Then again, I always thought they are just Hinata fans. Again, it so happen that her character does involve with Naruto, so yeah.

I'm with you on this thought and about a full NH opening or ending, well it doesn't bother me since the anime team had there pairing teasing moment with exception of the Hinata cocking for Naruto they always try to stay close to the Manga.
Full NH from Naruto side is almost suggesting that Naruto loves her back when in fact the one he loves is Sakura and there are some scene that leads the fans to believe that Sakura might feels something and that is why they normally do Sakura>>>Naruto in there OP and ED.
In other words Hinata and NH does not worries me and it's clear with pairing Pierrot focus on the most despite having there bias towards a character.

Dont you know? They tried to make a Hinata ending once but then Sakura wouldnt let them. It was in an omake.

Well they did make a Hinata ending that was far from being NH, that's what I meant by them trying to stay honest to the manga.

Edited by Don-kun, 03 March 2013 - 07:47 PM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

I'm with you on this thought and about a full NH opening or ending, well it doesn't bother me since the anime team had there pairing teasing moment with exception of the Hinata cocking for Naruto they always try to stay close to the Manga.
Full NH from Naruto side is almost suggesting that Naruto loves her back when in fact the one he loves is Sakura and there are some scene that leads the fans to believe that Sakura might feels something and that is why they normally do Sakura>>>Naruto in there OP and ED.
In other words Hinata and NH does not worries me and it's clear with pairing Pierrot focus on the most despite having there bias towards a character.




Well they did make a Hinata ending that was far from being NH, that's what I meant by them trying to stay honest to the manga.

didnt see the ED personaly i rarely watch them. But since it aparently sucked so much maybe they should of listened to Sakura in the first place and not rebuild the set she so awesomely anihalated.

[HauntedCake]

MY personal favorite ED's

[Sojobo]

I like your sig.

Thanks.

ED 22 is my favorite NS ED by far.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm with you on this thought and about a full NH opening or ending, well it doesn't bother me since the anime team had there pairing teasing moment with exception of the Hinata cocking for Naruto they always try to stay close to the Manga.
Full NH from Naruto side is almost suggesting that Naruto loves her back when in fact the one he loves is Sakura and there are some scene that leads the fans to believe that Sakura might feels something and that is why they normally do Sakura>>>Naruto in there OP and ED.
In other words Hinata and NH does not worries me and it's clear with pairing Pierrot focus on the most despite having there bias towards a character.




Well they did make a Hinata ending that was far from being NH, that's what I meant by them trying to stay honest to the manga.

I haven't watch an opening/ending with both acknowledging each other for NH, just one or maybe two but from Hinata's side. The thing about NS is that not only it's both acknowledgement from both sides, but it's coming from Sakura, who is claimed to not love Naruto. Plus, I'm still waiting for NH ending with only them and only them. NS got it, so yeah.

[T XD]

I think that it will be weird having a NH ending or opening cause we already have both for NS.

[soraandven]

i found naruto vs gaara this is my favorite fight of part 1 cuz it shows how strong his determination is to save sakura and it shows sasuke that his power is stronger then his own lol

[soraandven]

click here to watch it

[AzureWaters]

I think the "For you" ending is the best in terms of NaruSaku.

My favorite however is ending 6 with Sasuke and Naruto as samurai.

[Don-kun]

I think that it will be weird having a NH ending or opening cause we already have both for NS.

That to and believe it or not I can see Hinata stepping down back to the sideline again when Sakura is back on the main scene and more importantly like in 450 I don't see Hinata embracing Naruto while Sakura is only an spectator, that role belongs to Haruno Sakura and no on else, even if Naruto dies (lets hope this never happens) Sakura will be the one shown to be affected the most and who the others will offer their condolences just like a wife who lost her husband.
I don't care what others try to claim about Hinata's importance to the Manga and Naruto since it's clear like water that the role belong to Sakura.

Edited by Don-kun, 03 March 2013 - 08:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

i found naruto vs gaara this is my favorite fight of part 1 cuz it shows how strong his determination is to save sakura and it shows sasuke that his power is stronger then his own lol

That fight is what got me thinking that Naruto is dead on serious with his love for Sakura. When you think about it, it was probably the last time that we see him pushing to the limit. No, scratch that, beyond the limit. He was always in the losing position many times, but Sakura keeps reminding him so he pulls an unbelievable feat. He even kept going when he's on the ground. That's scary for any villains to see. I always wish for this again, but this time, Sakura will see how much she matters.

I think the "For you" ending is the best in terms of NaruSaku.

My favorite however is ending 6 with Sasuke and Naruto as samurai.

I do like that ending for NS. Ending 6 is neat. I want the anime use the last color spread for the ending, like making a short story. That would be sweet.

[T XD]

That to and believe or not I see Hinata stepping down to the sideline once again when Sakura is back on the main scene and more importantly like in 450 I don't see Hinata embracing Naruto while Sakura is only an spectator, that role belong to Haruno Sakura and no on else, even if Naruto dies (lets hope this never happens) Sakura will be the one shown to be affected the most and who the others will offer their condolences to like a wife who just lost her husband.
I don't care about what others try to claim about Hinata's importance to the Manga and Naruto since it's clear like water that the role belong to Sakura.

Of course Hinata will go back to the sidelines. It's where she belongs. Sakura will have to reappear eventually on this battle and there's no escape from it.
Plus, when that happens, all the side characters will be no longer a lot on the main screen as they were before.

[redragon88]

What I hear being said sometimes is that his love for Sakura is a bad thing. Naruto keeps his own feelings bottled up inside in order to make Sakura happy, and as Sai said it weighs heavily upon him. Sakura is inadvertently causing him a lot of pain, and when she finds out about it, she is guilt tripped into confessing to Naruto in an effort to rid him of his burden, even though she doesn't actually love him romantically. However, the way she goes by her confession is deceitful and almost patronizing.
Stating that she has fallen in love with him because he was there in place of Sasuke, and that unlike Sasuke he is a hero rather than a criminal, made her seem like the shallow type of person who picks out who she wants based on their status and popularity. This generated even more hate for Sakura amongst those who dislike her, and I think that's part of the reason people don't support Naruto's romantic endeavors- they just don't like Sakura.

And because they hate her they look for whatever excuse to put her down as a bad person. All that you described is interpretation based on negative prejudice.

At the end of the day all that Sakura has done so far has been out of care for Naruto, she thinks very fondly and highly of him. If she screws up is not because she's arrogant, it's because she had some bad ideas as to how to approach a situation. But the people that dislike her will obviously not see that and choose to portray her as some sort of bitter opportunist.

You say other people are biased and that they tend to interpret things in a way that supports their own views, but to be fair, aren't we doing the same thing here?
Bold: this is a good example of that. Regardless of whether or not Naruto actually does act neutrally towards her, you choose to interpret the scene in such a way that confirms your point of view.

It can't be an interpretation when the evidence is right there on paper. It's not up to interpretation whether Naruto made a fond face towards Hinata, it's a fact that can be viewed.

Now if I say something like "Naruto didn't feel anything romantic towards Hinata in 615", that right there is an interpretation. We can be sure that he doesn't show romantic love for Hinata (given his face), but he could be feeling it internally and not showing it. Although it's rather unlikely since he tends to show what he feels, but you never know.

I'm sure Harry's bond with Hermione was stronger, but in the end he still randomly fell in love with and married Ginny. Yes I brought that up again

Since you said you were just trolling I'll let this one slide.

Still, as said Harry never crushed on anyone at the beginning. And you know how in manga/anime romantic development uses way bigger emotions. It's all about destined loved ones, not casual dating. The differences between the east and the west in that regard is the same as Heaven and Earth. See what I did there.

[soraandven]

i also found this fight

[Tsubaki]

There is that ED SS & NH, I don't remember well wich season it is, but they did an ED with NH/SS.

What saddens me the most is that I love this ED but that SS/NH vibe really ruined it a little to me ...I find so weird that Hinata was included in an ED that is based more on team 7 and their issues. btw... the NarutoxSasuke fight and the song are amazing!!

[Baguette]

And because they hate her they look for whatever excuse to put her down as a bad person. All that you described is interpretation based on negative prejudice.

At the end of the day all that Sakura has done so far has been out of care for Naruto, she thinks very fondly and highly of him. If she screws up is not because she's arrogant, it's because she had some bad ideas as to how to approach a situation. But the people that dislike her will obviously not see that and choose to portray her as some sort of bitter opportunist.

Can't disagree there.
Generally, people say:
"I hate Sakura because she sucks."
When in reality it's more like:
"Sakura sucks because I hate her."
People want to have reasons to loathe her, and so they actively look for things to interpret in such a way that it can be used to bash her with, while at the same time selectively disregarding all of the good that she does.

It can't be an interpretation when the evidence is right there on paper. It's not up to interpretation whether Naruto made a fond face towards Hinata, it's a fact that can be viewed.

Now if I say something like "Naruto didn't feel anything romantic towards Hinata in 615", that right there is an interpretation. We can be sure that he doesn't show romantic love for Hinata (given his face), but he could be feeling it internally and not showing it. Although it's rather unlikely since he tends to show what he feels, but you never know.

Fair enough.

Still, as said Harry never crushed on anyone at the beginning. And you know how in manga/anime romantic development uses way bigger emotions. It's all about destined loved ones, not casual dating. The differences between the east and the west in that regard is the same as Heaven and Earth. See what I did there.

I think I get what you're saying, but I don't think there's much of a difference terms of romantic development in western & eastern entertainment. Both have a fair amount of "destined loved ones" and "casual dating" themes, whether it be in books, on TV, or such and such. Come on people, us Asians aren't all that different from you

[TouKen4Life3g]

The thing is in Shounen is that when the main character gets a love interest that he is interested in, he's going to get her. When there's nothing like that, well follow the journey to see if they are going to end up together. Hero/heroine or main characters usually ends up the victory. I don't use this argument because NS is so good without it. But again, it's usually follows that flow, especially in Shounen.

[Baguette]

Yeah, that's true. Let's hope Naruto follows the same pattern.