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[Lilac]

Nuh uh--NH fans were the ONLY ones who brought up Hinata's breasts as a reason why Naruto would choose Sakura over her. I can bring up multiple fanarts of it. THAT is sexist and body-shaming of women.
I'm actually defending Hinata because I hate how such a shy modest frumpy character is sexualized into something she's not.
I have no problem with big breasted characters; I love Orihime from Bleach and enjoyed the latest sex joke with her and Ichigo lol. But that's because Kubo MEANT for her to be sexy. Kishimoto didn't for Hinata.
Sorry for the rant..I just hate to be accused of being sexist and body shaming when I am such a big opponent of that.

 

I've seen a lot of Naruhina fanart, since I'm a Hinata fan and it gets tagged. I've yet to see a fanart where Hinata goes "I have larger breasts, pick me!"

 

Unless you mean fanart where she has large breasts? Because...uh, she has them. OR do you mean sexualized in general, because again, she had two kids.  She does the deed. It IS sexist to call her a 'cow' or tear down her character because the size of her breasts. That is what body shaming is. There's another word, which I think would be censored...but it's essentially "strumpet shaming". Shaming a woman for her own sexuality. Which is just as bad.

[soshi]

 

I've seen a lot of Naruhina fanart, since I'm a Hinata fan and it gets tagged. I've yet to see a fanart where Hinata goes "I have larger breasts, pick me!"

 

Unless you mean fanart where she has large breasts? Because...uh, she has them. OR do you mean sexualized in general, because again, she had two kids.  She does the deed. It IS sexist to call her a 'cow' or tear down her character because the size of her breasts. That is what body shaming is. There's another word, which I think would be censored...but it's essentially "strumpet shaming". Shaming a woman for her own sexuality. Which is just as bad.

I have nothing personal with hinata I like her character but Aizen is right I've seen posts on different sites where hinata's fans where saying that naruto should choose hinata because she has big breasts.and if they defines their favorite character with that .........i have no comment

[James S Cassidy]

-sighs and looks down-

You know, this is one of those days that i wish the manga ended ambiguously and this movie was never made.

Sure, it would not  have ended it conclusively, but we all probably would have been far better off and the fandoms would not have been at civil war. Kishimoto and his assistants have said that it is up to the fans what they choose to want or not...to me, it seems like Kishimoto is telling us that we can choose whatever we want and it will be canon to us.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 November 2014 - 11:47 AM.

[archangel]

We don't have to support or like NH/SS but we DO have to ACCEPT that they HAPPENED. It's in the manga.  We may not like the ending but we can't deny these pairings are canon. So I feel bad for people like 咲耶姫 who understand the manga is over, and not in our favor, yet being attacked by "fellow" members for having an opinion. 

 

咲耶姫 always translates for us and is an old member. 

 

Although no matter what NH/SS fans say... we have 15 years of development and Naruto loved Sakura for 699 chapters of the manga.

I agree

I admit that those 2 pairing are canon. But they weren't meant to be when you look the story. Anyone who knows how to read know that. I've been drag in the pairing wars, just because I dare said once that Naruto still love Sakura and no, Hinata has no development to Naruto. I've felt like if I was a witch during the witch hunt. BURN HIM, BLASPHEMY, HE DARE SAYS THAT. I was having just a clean head though I've always like the character together, the story seems to back me up.  I came here at first because I was like man, at least here they don't ship just to ship. They have a point. OH GOD LOL.

 

In other word I love you guys XD,  you gave me hope on the internet humanity .

[James S Cassidy]

We don't have to support or like NH/SS but we DO have to ACCEPT that they HAPPENED. It's in the manga.  We may not like the ending but we can't deny these pairings are canon. So I feel bad for people like 咲耶姫 who understand the manga is over, and not in our favor, yet being attacked by "fellow" members for having an opinion. 

 

咲耶姫 always translates for us and is an old member. 

 

Although no matter what NH/SS fans say... we have 15 years of development and Naruto loved Sakura for 699 chapters of the manga.

Then I guess I am no longer a Naruto fan...because I don't accept it at all. I don't have to accept anything anymore and I don't want to. I rather not be a Naruto fan anymore if it means I am forced to accept this. It's not even a matter of pairings choices, but rather a matter of principles. I am tired of always accepting everything because I have to. I am tired of being told off because I wanted something better.

If people want to just roll over and accept it, then that is their choice, but me? I guess I walk that lonely road, but it is the road I choose to walk.

All my life I always had to accept my fate. To accept all the garbage I was handed and being told to be "grateful" for it. No more. For once, I want to get what I want. I want to be happy just once is my blasted life instead of having to settle for this.

For here on out, I proclaim myself to be the real Naruto...and I will never give up or give in.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 November 2014 - 12:00 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I say it simple: I accept the ending, I don't like the ending, and overall, it has been damaged and landed on mediocre to average. Experience is good, going back isn't rewarded. I want it to be, but yeah, it has been damaged. So there you go.

[James S Cassidy]

I say it simple: I accept the ending, I don't like the ending, and overall, it has been damaged and landed on mediocre to average. Experience is good, going back isn't rewarded. I want it to be, but yeah, it has been damaged. So there you go.

I have to wonder what is worse for the reputation. Going back and fixing the mistakes you made or leaving your mistakes as they are and doomed to repeat them?

Seems, in this world, nothing can ever be fixed or at least...we won't allow things to be fixed.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 November 2014 - 12:28 PM.

[Alessa]

This is basically how their conversations would go.

Exactly. This is why I think NH is so ridiculous. Does the author even think deep enough about the life his character would lead? Such conversations and Naruto being an oddball in Hyuga's household with all those dead-eyed and cold-tempered family members sitting around like statues on the rugs. I can easily see Naruto dying inside and turning into what we see in 700. The famous LAST CD cover might be Naruto going with Hinata to another family dinner.

Edited by Alessa, 15 November 2014 - 12:45 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have to wonder what is worse for the reputation. Going back and fixing the mistakes you made or leaving your mistakes as they are and doomed to repeat them?

Seems, in this world, nothing can ever be fixed or at least...we won't allow things to be fixed.

Pretty much. I feel like I should really write my story.

Exactly. This is why I think NH is so ridiculous. Does the author even think deep enough about the life his character would lead? Such conversations and Naruto being an oddball in Hyuga's household with all those dead-eyed and cold-tempered family members sitting around like statues on the rugs. I can easily see Naruto dying inside and turning into what we see in 700. The famous LAST CD cover might be Naruto going with Hinata to another family dinner.

It wouldn't matter on thinking of the characters. It's at the very end and however it got to marriage and kids, it won't need explanation, because it has already ended. Smooth move if I have to say. Still, I have never see a boring pairing like this till today.

[soshi]

I say it simple: I accept the ending, I don't like the ending, and overall, it has been damaged and landed on mediocre to average. Experience is good, going back isn't rewarded. I want it to be, but yeah, it has been damaged. So there you go.

so do i,believe me I want this to be just a big hoax from kishi but if life has taught me something was to be realistic.the reality of these is simple... is money.if we were a bigger fandom than the other two we were those who will laugh now.and do you want to know what is the great irony in this?we were the ones who supported him for how he created the story not only for ships.we can not do anything now naruto is too big so they can do what they want.the only thing we can do is to unite and to no longer support hem with the new film and the next series but even that will not gona happen

Edited by soshi, 15 November 2014 - 12:56 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

Then I guess I am no longer a Naruto fan...because I don't accept it at all. I don't have to accept anything anymore and I don't want to. I rather not be a Naruto fan anymore if it means I am forced to accept this. It's not even a matter of pairings choices, but rather a matter of principles. I am tired of always accepting everything because I have to. I am tired of being told off because I wanted something better.

If people want to just roll over and accept it, then that is their choice, but me? I guess I walk that lonely road, but it is the road I choose to walk.

All my life I always had to accept my fate. To accept all the garbage I was handed and being told to be "grateful" for it. No more. For once, I want to get what I want. I want to be happy just once is my blasted life instead of having to settle for this.

For here on out, I proclaim myself to be the real Naruto...and I will never give up or give in.

So much - this^

 

so do i,believe me I want this to be just a big hoax from kishi but if life has taught me something was to be realistic.the reality of these is simple... is money.if we were a bigger fandom than the other two we were those who will laugh now.and do you want to know what is the great irony in this?we were the ones who supported him for how he created the story not only for ships.we can not do anything now naruto is too big so they can do what they want.the only thing we can do is to unite and to no longer support hem with the new film and the next series but even that will not gona happen

Its funny, cause in Japan - NS just to big to be compared to NH and SS even together.

[Princess Iris]

 

So much - this^
 
Its funny, cause in Japan - NS just to big to be compared to NH and SS even together.

nopes SS is bigger fandom than NH/NS

[NarutoUzumaki01]

nopes SS is bigger fandom than NH/NS

Any proof?

[rinali24]

I hope that kittens up his sex life with Sakura lol.

 

lol To be honest, I've heard Narusaku shippers talk more about Hinata's boobs than anyone else...Actually, the only place I've seen it mentioned at all is 4chan. Why focus so much on her breasts? Women come in all shapes and sizes, it's kind of sexist to say a character is crap because of the size of her breasts.

 

And really, if you truly don't condone abuse towards women, could you tone down the body shaming? It's not any better...

 

I disagree. All the big boobs talk I hear are from Hinata fans or anti-Sakura fans. All the people saying Hinata is better than Sakura because Hinata has bigger boobs or Naruto should be with Hinata because she has bigger boobs. I see these comments everywhere- reddit, tumblr, other Naruto forums...etc

[rinali24]

Also, I'm sick of people saying I NEED to accept the ending just because it's canon and it's respectful to the author. 

 

No. I don't need to accept anything. If I don't like it, then I don't like it. People telling me I need to accept something isn't going to magically make me do so. I'm allowed to criticize the work. I don't have to like every single page of the story to be a "true fan." If that's the case, then sure, I suppose I'm not a fan. Frankly, this type of mindset makes me so annoyed. It's like nowadays, you're not allowed to make any critical comments about something unless it's total ass kissing. 

[soshi]

Also, I'm sick of people saying I NEED to accept the ending just because it's canon and it's respectful to the author. 

 

No. I don't need to accept anything. If I don't like it, then I don't like it. People telling me I need to accept something isn't going to magically make me do so. I'm allowed to criticize the work. I don't have to like every single page of the story to be a "true fan." If that's the case, then sure, I suppose I'm not a fan. Frankly, this type of mindset makes me so annoyed. It's like nowadays, you're not allowed to make any critical comments about something unless it's total ass kissing. 

I'm with you, for me the manga ended in 698 the rest is just garbage ,and i will not ever accept NH and SS

Edited by soshi, 15 November 2014 - 02:49 PM.

[tricksie]

Also, I'm sick of people saying I NEED to accept the ending just because it's canon and it's respectful to the author. 

 

No. I don't need to accept anything. If I don't like it, then I don't like it. People telling me I need to accept something isn't going to magically make me do so. I'm allowed to criticize the work. I don't have to like every single page of the story to be a "true fan." If that's the case, then sure, I suppose I'm not a fan. Frankly, this type of mindset makes me so annoyed. It's like nowadays, you're not allowed to make any critical comments about something unless it's total ass kissing. 

 

You're welcome here. None of us are accepting it either. Naruto will always have ended at 698 for me. There is simply no point in the final chapter and epilogue other than to bump movie ticket sales and introduce the spin off. It's doesn't serve the story.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

You're welcome here. None of us are accepting it either. Naruto will always have ended at 698 for me. There is simply no point in the final chapter and epilogue other than to bump movie ticket sales and introduce the spin off. It's doesn't serve the story.

 

Exactly, and a lot of fans aren't accepting the ending either. So as Tricksie said, Rinali, you're welcome and accepted here.

[Princess Iris]

Any proof?

ppl in this forum said that

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
You're welcome here. None of us are accepting it either. Naruto will always have ended at 698 for me. There is simply no point in the final chapter and epilogue other than to bump movie ticket sales and introduce the spin off. It's doesn't serve the story.

I still can't believe he did that...