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[Dalton.T.R]

You'd think that they'd learn from their mistake by now story telling brings sales, not sales determine storytelling. And BTW why bother anymore? NH(Hinata fans) are also turned off from the series and it didn't take much. It only needed to "take away" something they cared about.

Boobies! 

[Yojeveka]

@yojoveka
They aimed are the sales even at the expense of story telling.

I know, that's why it's useless to expect something good from this story =/

Edited by Yojeveka, 14 May 2016 - 02:35 AM.

[rocci]

I know, that's why it's useless to expect something good from this story =/

Maybe they could give a good firework(action).
The hardcore will buy it regardless the quality, so it depend on casual.
Will they bought something that not make by kishi?

[James S Cassidy]

I don't get the idea of Batman VS Superman...like, at all. 

 

Superman: An alien from a distant world who could destroy the entire planet if he really wanted to.

 

Batman: A really rich dude in a badass uniform...

 

It doesn't make any sense to me...

It is the idea of God vs Man to which some people love that one.
 

 

The whole "Batman v. Superman" thing, ever since the beginning, was never supposed to be about the fighting between them itself like the film made it all about, but rather, as Captain America: Civil War did FAR better between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark, their differences in ideologies. Bruce Wayne/Batman and Clark Kent/Superman both want the same thing - justice and protecting the "little guy" (us) but they obviously have completely polar opposite methods of doing so. Where Superman is about being a symbol of hope for humanity and believing that they can change for the better on their own by being an example for them to strive towards, Batman is more about fear and intimidation to make people too afraid to be criminals lest he (or others) come after them. The fighting itself is much more of a secondary thing by comparison.

This too.

There is is even more to it when you go farther into Batman and Superman's ideologies. Superman wants to be human like Batman, but Batman wants all the powers of Superman so he can be a better man for it. Superman actually thinks Batman is better because he is human and being human means he can be flawed and not have people expect anything from him. Not that he wants to avoid responsibility, but rather he wants people to accept his flaws too. However, because he is supposed to be "Super man" they always put him on the highest pedestal possible. Batman wants to be Superman because then he knows he can do everything he wants to do and protect people. He wants to inspire people like Superman does and continue to do so for a long time. Batman wants to be more than what he is as he feels he is too flawed to really change the world.

In a way, Batman and Superman are jealous of each other which is why they get into a lot of arguments.

What pisses Batman off the most is he feels Superman doesn't know how lucky he truly is, but Superman always tries to tell him....."you put me on something so high that I feel like I don't belong anymore. I want to be down here with all of you...not up in the sky always looking down." Batman can be social and can have things he can connect to people with...Superman doesn't feel like he belongs sometimes.

I wonder how Sasuke's and Naruto's fight would be if this was their ideology. Naruto's and Sasuke's fight seems more similar to civil war Steve vs Tony albeit done very wrong. At least you can join either side and technically be both right and wrong at the same time.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 16 May 2016 - 03:33 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Oh? You are? I find asexuals to be fascinating individuals!   

 

That's nice to hear. Asexuality is often largely misunderstood, I didn't even know much about it until a few years ago. I find it a shame that most people don't talk about asexuality, or many times even acknowledge it, because it would have saved me a lot of confusion and feeling awful about myself if I had known about it earlier in my life.

 

 

 

I sometimes would argue that good Shonen ARE Seinan. Like I said, One Punch Man. It is such a fine line that I just consider it a Shonen anyway despite what people claim. I mean, I know the differences, but Naruto seems to have more gore, violence, and adult themes than OPM. I wonder why Naruto isn't a seinen by now.

I mean look at this:

Naruto contains all of these elements and even includes gore, cursing, and so much more. So how can Naruto not be considered a Seinen, but OPM is? This confuses me. That's like saying the Pretty Women is a romance movie, but not a romance comedy despite the lines being so thin.

Hell, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure started out classified as a Shonen and ran in Shonen Jump, but then changed it to a Seinen.

Fairy Tale is another Shonen that comes to mind that is well written....mostly. And stuff that isn't is not that big of a deal or it is played for laughs now.
 

 

To my understanding, it's more depending on the publisher that classifies a manga as shounen or seinen than the actual content, though I'm sure that can be a factor as well. Several times I've read/watched series that were shounen that felt like seinen or seinen that felt more like shounen, so that's why I'd say that the quality of the work is really the important thing to look for, rather than what is the target demographic.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 17 May 2016 - 02:07 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

To my understanding, it's more depending on the publisher that classifies a manga as shounen or seinen than the actual content, though I'm sure that can be a factor as well. Several times I've read/watched series that were shounen that felt like seinen or seinen that felt more like shounen, so that's why I'd say that the quality of the work is really the important thing to look for, rather than what is the target demographic.

The simplest way to understand the difference between Shounen and Seinen is simple. It's more an age rating system then genres. Shounen are made for teen but adults can enjoy them like T rated movies and games. And Teens can read Seinen manga but parents should take pro-cations before letting them read it like with M rated movies and games.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Why do most shone not mothers look so young while their husbands are butt looking ugly, old?

[Dalton.T.R]

Why do most shone not mothers look so young while their husbands are butt looking ugly, old?

Because manga! That's why!

[rocci]

Different between shonen and seinen aside from target audience is censorship and some unwritten law, but mostly censorship.

The most gore and sexualize fanservice in shonen manga is still mild compare to seinen manga. It's like pg 13 vs r rating.

@konohacrimson
I think it depend of style.
The more realistic the style the more realistic the story.
But hot wife and ugly husband is not unfound in real life.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Because manga! That's why!

 

Well, ain't that a good thing that we both are writers 

 

Different between shonen and seinen aside from target audience is censorship and some unwritten law, but mostly censorship.

The most gore and sexualize fanservice in shonen manga is still mild compare to seinen manga. It's like pg 13 vs r rating.

@konohacrimson
I think it depend of style.
The more realistic the style the more realistic the story.
But hot wife and ugly husband is not unfound in real life.

 

What I meant is why don't the ladies age while the men do. Its like they get younger over the years. I only see this with Shonen type of manga.

[rocci]

@konoha
You'll not only see that in shonen manga.
Boku dake ga machi is a seinen manga who featuring (the best) mother who doesn't age. Usually it use as running joke.

Hinata doesn't age perhaps the author want fap over her

[Yyubie]

Kishimoto already doom / make coffin of himself and his manga the moment he draw Sasuke and Hinata for the first time.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Characters not aging is used for a gag most of the time. Sometimes they will not say the age as a mystery but contribute to the running gag. Some don't have a reason, but some do, realistically or comedy. But when no one acknowledge it, then it's just author being pervert.

[Dalton.T.R]

 

Well, ain't that a good thing that we both are writers 

 

 

 

Well, you may be a writer, but I'M a legend!

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Well, you may be a writer, but I'M a legend!

 

Like Kishi 

[Skarrow]

Out of curiosity has anyone made a review of Boruto the movie or N:TL in the style of cinemasins yet? I think I want to try my hand at it. Starting from N:TL (it's the easiest) to my least favorite Naruto movie (Will of Fire)

[TouKen4Life3g]

I would love to do that with The Last but I have no time, especially now.

[LuckyChi7]

Out of curiosity has anyone made a review of Boruto the movie or N:TL in the style of cinemasins yet? I think I want to try my hand at it. Starting from N:TL (it's the easiest) to my least favorite Naruto movie (Will of Fire)

 

 

I'm working on my review for Boruto The Movie, but I did do a review for the last, but it's not in the style of cinemasins.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Has anyone reviewed the last Nostalgia Critic style?

[TheFirstEvil100]

Has anyone reviewed the last Nostalgia Critic style?

I wish I could I mean would be funny just think of all the jokes that you can do and much more as well.