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[Inferno180]

One really easy element to throw in, kushinas foreshadow. We don't need to argue the parallel aspect but the Kushina foreshadow for ns is something many opposing fanbases try to twist.

It's a 2 fold overly simplified reason for ns just to hint it as the end pairing.

1. Kushina said for naruto to find a girl like her, minato was there and seconded everything she said before their deaths. This meant that for one thing there would be an end pairing.

2. 631 came, no matter how people look at the girlfriend comment, no matter how they debate this, sakura is still the only girl compared to Kushina canonically in anyway shape or form. Yes naruto has been compared to Kushina, but this doesn't change the fact that sakura is like her and besides, any arguement of ns being just a Kushina Kushina, makes no difference, naruto is like minato too so his minato ness can work with Sakura's kushinaness.

We know the meltdown 631 caused, I still say the worst thing of all was how divided those fanbases became once the minato sakura event came up saying she is like Kushina. This drove fans to saying its a joke, it's not important, naruto doesn't need to listen to Kushina, minato will take the comment back, literally it caused such twisted reactions it's insane how many exist.

The whole link of kushinas foreshadow to 631s events to the similar backgrounds of sakura and Kushina, the whole event of 631 is that it wasn't just a moment, it built on the Kushina foreshadow and unlike 615 which was just a moment, foreshadow material persists until needed. Nothing has said there is another girl like Kushina and for nh being soooo canon for a moment like 631 after 615, it's harder for them to actually say canon with naruto liking the idea of sakura as his girlfriend. Seriously what would be the point if it didn't lead anywhere? Not to mention 635 being a big sinkhole for SS, sakura not trusting Sasuke is basically a potential start of a collapse for the only half of SS that has existed.

Fans can argue as they need and want but events like kushinas background to the foreshadow, to 631, guess a simple manga facts link like this is something that many people missed or should discount simply because sakura canonically exists in the link. I mean if we get that event later after this Madara fight, I still await the massive meltdown fans will do, like 631 but on a much larger scale. We have sight of a potential ns event and the time around the final fight is ns ace in the hole, seriously just cause it has Sasuke involved and hinata has no Importance or any conceivable reason to be around Sasuke she never even spoke to him. This is territory she cannot enter and simple, the biggest fact of all, people expect naruto to succeed it's everything but fail or give up on sakura,seriously he should not get the girl he has been shown to like for the majority of the manga? Yeah that makes perfect sense, but the fact if naruto not giving up on anyone including his love for sakura, it's too much for some people to process.

[TouKen4Life3g]

did tobirama say minato's an idiot or both father and son are idiots?

Yes.

[James S Cassidy]

In one of my videos, I had a poster write

"Kishimoto says only sakura can save sasuke from darkness"

-sigh- Where do people come up with this stuff?

[Hanabi]

^that's blatantly false..only naruto can connect to sasuke now..sai, kakashi, and sakura all failed trying to make sasuke see sense 

Yes.

Okay I just checked 645 he said naruto's a bigger idiot than his brother but did he say anything like father and son are idiots?

Edited by Hanabi, 05 December 2013 - 09:15 PM.

[sushi.]

In one of my videos, I had a poster write

"Kishimoto says only sakura can save sasuke from darkness"

-sigh- Where do people come up with this stuff?

this makes my head spin help me

 

Naruto will save Sasuke.

It is one thing being bs, but this is a whole new level. You can't mess with NaruSasu's destiny, it's the center trail in the story. Everything ties up to it, twisting it will break the rest into pieces.

[TouKen4Life3g]

^that's blatantly false..only naruto can connect to sasuke now..sai, kakashi, and sakura all failed trying to make sasuke see sense 
Okay I just checked 645 he said naruto's a bigger idiot than his brother but did he say anything like father and son are idiots?

I believe it was in chapter 642.

[Nostradamus]

@Shashank95 First of all Welcome. Secondly don't bother with the NH fans because it's pointless, trust me. Now if you want to read their comments fine but don't waste your energy replying to them. They are a very strange fanbase, they twist the events of the story to support their pairing anyway they can. I remember once reading a comment that went something like "The reason Sakura was in 615 and made that face was because Hinata's speech got to Sakura and made her think that she should trust Sasuke and trying to kill him was wrong because Sasuke truly loves her" or something ridiculous like that, you get the point.

[Superman333]

@Shashank95 First of all Welcome. Secondly don't bother with the NH fans because it's pointless, trust me. Now if you want to read their comments fine but don't waste your energy replying to them. They are a very strange fanbase, they twist the events of the story to support their pairing anyway they can. I remember once reading a comment that went something like "The reason Sakura was in 615 and made that face was because Hinata's speech got to Sakura and made her think that she should trust Sasuke and trying to kill him was wrong because Sasuke truly loves her" or something ridiculous like that, you get the point.

Okay, that was the most ridiculous argument I ever heard . .

[Shashank95]

I've seen even more ridiculous arguements where Fans claim that Naruto and Sakura secretly love Hinata and Sakura respectively but are too shy to show it, i was like O.o are these guys for real ? Guys i haven't read the manga for a while, is it true but Tobirama inventing the Hiraishin ? And do you guys think Naruto will ever Admit to Sakura that he was the one who complemented her forehead and Not Sasuke. I think that's the big Narusaku moment in store for us. We all know how Sakura feels abt her forehead, but now she Knows how much love Naruto has for her, if he tells her now. Sakura's reaction would be priceless to see

[Inferno180]

I've seen even more ridiculous arguements where Fans claim that Naruto and Sakura secretly love Hinata and Sakura respectively but are too shy to show it, i was like O.o are these guys for real ? Guys i haven't read the manga for a while, is it true but Tobirama inventing the Hiraishin ? And do you guys think Naruto will ever Admit to Sakura that he was the one who complemented her forehead and Not Sasuke. I think that's the big Narusaku moment in store for us. We all know how Sakura feels abt her forehead, but now she Knows how much love Naruto has for her, if he tells her now. Sakura's reaction would be priceless to see

Yes tobirama did invent the shadow clone technique and flying thunder god along with edo tensei. He essentially made some of the strongest techniques but the shadow clone and edo tensei became forbidden though the shadow clone could be used in limited amounts by some normal people like Kakashi.

Just as minato complimented Kushina on her hair, remember Kushina used to hate minato and hated her hair

This is oh so familer to sakura hating naruto and her own forehead in which naruto liked that and was the first to compliment her forehead. Yes they may bring it up in the future, naruto may blurt it out or see it was naruto who complimented her that day. Sais reveal to sakura isn't narutos confession by proxy as some say, he will have his own chance to say it most likely when the Sasuke stuff is closer to being resolved.

All the sakura Kushina similarities can come forward now due to 631, they can build on 631 so there is potential.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Shadow clone is pretty intense feat. The fact you can do that forbidden jutsu with clones can create multiple deaths. When Sarutobi did that, I was like "Ok, that jutsu is broken."

[Shashank95]

Yeah, you're right. If Naruto knew the Shiki Fuin, he could spam the Shadow clone to seal every guy on the battle field. Come on, now that Madara's mortal this would be a great way to kill that crazy uchiha :-P

[Shashank95]

The forehead comment has to brought up. I mean, this is just me but wasn't Sakura's love for Sasuke strengthened when Naruto said those words in Henge. Granted he said that it was something Naruto would say but the Sakura back then wouldn't listen to reason. Kishi needs to tie up a lot of loose ends. Do you guys think he's throwing in Hinata just to keep some of the Rabid Naruhina fans interested in the manga ? Cause i've seen many Naruhina fans go as far as to claim that they would fly to Japan and end Kishi if Naruhina didn't go canon O.o Tobirama must've been a greater genius than even Minato right ?

[Shadow1275]

The real question here is can Naruto take on Sasuke. While ppl want to say that Sasuke can't take on Naruto in Kyubi mode, Sasuke doesn't have to. He already has the sharingan and knows how to neutralize the Kyubi. Without the Kyubi, we have EMS Sasuke vs. Sage Mode Naruto. The question is can Sage Mode stand up to Sasuke's EMS?

[Shashank95]

He neutralized the Kyuubi when they were at a disagreement right ? But right now they are in synch. Maybe Sasuke can't neutralize the Kyuubi. Also the seal was holding back the Kyuubi back then. But if Sasuke want's to fight with the EMS then he must let Naruto use his full powers too. Cause even if Sasuke wins it would be a hollow victory

[Jake]

Yeah, you're right. If Naruto knew the Shiki Fuin, he could spam the Shadow clone to seal every guy on the battle field. Come on, now that Madara's mortal this would be a great way to kill that crazy uchiha :-P

 

No it was explained during Naruto's Sage Mode training that if his shadow clone did not balance Natural Energy properly and turned to stone that it would happen to the real Naruto too when the clone is dispersed, It isn't hard to imagine that it's any different with the Death Reaper Seal.

 

The real question here is can Naruto take on Sasuke. While ppl want to say that Sasuke can't take on Naruto in Kyubi mode, Sasuke doesn't have to. He already has the sharingan and knows how to neutralize the Kyubi. Without the Kyubi, we have EMS Sasuke vs. Sage Mode Naruto. The question is can Sage Mode stand up to Sasuke's EMS?

 

I don't think that works when a Biju and Jinchuriki are in sync, like Naruto and Kurama are, otherwise Sasuke could have used his Sharingan to suppress Gyuki when he and Taka fought B, there is no reason that it would only work with Kurama and none of the other 8 Biju.

[natalieuciha]

Does anybody has the official links,or some reliable sources for sakuras databooks,where naruto is mentioned?

[Tokura Misaki]

In one of my videos, I had a poster write

"Kishimoto says only sakura can save sasuke from darkness"

-sigh- Where do people come up with this stuff?

 

 

It's very similar to SasSak's argument: "she filled his lonely existence." 

[Shashank95]

I agree with you guys cause Sasuke tried to suppress Gyuuki right ? But we'll never know until the fight actually starts. But Sasuke did get beaten badly by Killer B, Naruto is already strong by himself, add to that the strongest Bijuu working in tandem. It would be one hell of a fight. Like Obito said, it might be another Madara Hashirama like showdown

[咲耶姫]

 

 

It's very similar to SasSak's argument: "she filled his lonely existence." 

 

You know that it does exists in one of the databooks. I think it's said in databook 2 but not sure.