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#11761 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:00 PM

@Don-Kun
I agree with you i think on the confession she said everything that she thinks of Naruto, but one things is for sure she does not love him yet.
She loves Sasuke.
The whole realizing that Naruto was always by her side,encouraged her,great man,little dummy etc, she realized that on the confession.
The whole "I dont deserve" is stupid, Naruto loves her and she says does not deserve his love but Sasuke deserve her love while he only did bad things for her which she described Sasuke on the confession as the guy who " Only did bad things and break my heart".

The only thing left is MinaKushi with a compliment i cant see another alternative other than complimenting her forehead or whatever.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 March 2013 - 01:06 PM.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:14 PM

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@1:14 wheres that pic from?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 3 2013, 05:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Don-Kun
I agree with you i think on the confession she said everything that she thinks of Naruto, but one things is for sure she does not love him yet.
She loves Sasuke.
The whole realizing that Naruto was always by her side,encouraged her,great man,little dummy etc, she realized that on the confession.
The whole "I dont deserve" is stupid, Naruto loves her and she says does not deserve his love but Sasuke deserve her love while he only did bad things for her which she described Sasuke on the confession as the guy who " Only did bad things and break my heart".

The only thing left is MinaKushi with a compliment i cant see another alternative other than complimenting her forehead or whatever.


Completely Agree Here. All It takes is for Naruto to compliment her forehead. Back in chapter 3 he did so under disguise as Sasuke ^^

Now He needs to do it as himself, no one else. Not yet has Sakura been in love with Naruto, But I'm sure eventually we will see confirmation. This Very well could be the chance to finally show that NaruSaku is most definitely the next generations MinaKushi. Jiraiya never got to tell Tsunade how he felt about her and never will get the chance, But Naruto has the chance to.

It's all up to Naruto now, to show Sakura HOW he feels about her. Yes, she knows he loves her but, Does she truly realize how much he loves her? If he compliments her forehead I believe she'll realize that Naruto was infact the one who complimented her forehead when they were 12 smile.gif
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:31 PM



is there a video with this scene? :o

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:32 PM

Found this and i LOL'ED so hard. laugh.gif



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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:36 PM

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Found this and i LOL'ED so hard. laugh.gif



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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 3 2013, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Don-Kun
I agree with you i think on the confession she said everything that she thinks of Naruto, but one things is for sure she does not love him yet.
She loves Sasuke.
The whole realizing that Naruto was always by her side,encouraged her,great man,little dummy etc, she realized that on the confession.
The whole "I dont deserve" is stupid, Naruto loves her and she says does not deserve his love but Sasuke deserve her love while he only did bad things for her which she described Sasuke on the confession as the guy who " Only did bad things and break my heart".

The only thing left is MinaKushi with a compliment i cant see another alternative other than complimenting her forehead or whatever.


One thing I will say about your bold statement, all we can do is speculate about her feelings for Naruto, I choose to go with her action speak louder plus Yamato clearly try to tell the readers that Sakura feelings for Naruto are strong and it could well be love, this is something we cannot assume about Sasuke>>>Sakura and Naruto>>>>Hinata since the Manga only give us the idea that there could be a Sakura>>>>Naruto already taking place in the Manga, all we need at this point is Sakura internal thought stating how wrong Naruto was about her not loving him, no reader that is not biased can say with a straight face that they never saw her feelings for Naruto being developed in the Manga.

Sakura confirmation of her feelings for Naruto is far more believable scenario between all the big three, sudden realization about her feelings for me will be crap writing that could be applied to NH and SS ass well, acceptance of them and trying to embrace them or do something about them is more accurate withing the Manga.

Assuming that Sakura loves Naruto at this current time in the Manga while not denying that she also have feelings for Sasuke since he is the only one she openly shows romantic feelings for is far more accurate than saying that she doesn't love Naruto at all and only loves Sasuke since the Manga it sell show us the opposite of not loving him at all.
Sadly both assumption fall under speculation since we need a confirmation from Sakura, internal thought would be by far the best way to show the readers since it would be really silly to say that she is lying to her mind.

Edited by Don-kun, 03 March 2013 - 01:50 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:42 PM

@ HauntedCake: The first one, I found it a long time ago and I always thought that I won't be surprised if Naruto ever did that laugh.gif
@ pharix: The one with Naruto with his parents behind him is very beautiful when he's looking at Sakura XD

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What??
I said what if there's a SS that undo she looking at Sasuke on a negative way? Wont undo the "slowly moving on from him" and accepting her feelings then on the final battle when everyone thinking that SS and NH will happen she suddenly realizes that she loves Naruto and end up together wont be bad writing?Wont be forced and unnatural?

And then will come the prophets saying "it was so obvious because he's the main character and Sakura is the heroine".


I understand what you're saying.

My opinion is that if Sakura's going to get over Sasuke for that reason, she needs to do it quickly. Sasuke is already much more mellow than he was at Kage Summit. If the Hokages convince him to deal with Madara and help their side, if only temporarily, Sakura will likely start seeing him in a more optimistic light. Especially if he pops up in the battlefield and tries to seal him.



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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Mar 3 2013, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One thing I will say about your bold statement, all we can do is speculate about her feelings for Naruto, I choose to go with her action speak louder plus Yamato clearly try to tell the readers that Sakura feelings for Naruto are strong and it could well be love, this is something we cannot assume about Sasuke>>>Sakura and Naruto>>>>Hinata since the Manga only give us the idea that there could be a Sakura>>>>Naruto already taking place in the Manga, all we need at this point is Sakura internal thought stating how wrong Naruto was about her not loving him, no reader that is not biased can say with a straight face that they never saw her feelings for Naruto being developed in the Manga.

Sakura confirmation of her feelings for Naruto is far more believable scenario between all the big three, sudden realization about her feelings for me will be crap writing, acceptance of them and trying to embrace them or do something about them is more accurate with the Manga.

Assuming that Sakura loves Naruto at this current time in the Manga while not denying that she also have feelings for Sasuke since he is the only one she openly shows romantic feelings for is far more accurate than saying that she doesn't love Naruto at all and only loves Sasuke since the Manga it sell show us the opposite of not loving him at all.
Sadly both assumption fall under speculation since we need a confirmation from Sakura, internal thought would be by far the best way to show the readers since it would be really silly to say that she is lying to her mind.

HEr feelings for Naruto is strong but she said everything, she said that Naruto was the man who was at her side all the time, that encouraged her, that he was a little dummy who became a great man, but what about is left for Sasuke why she still loves him?
I'm trying to question this myself since yesterday does not make any sense she say that Naruto only was the one who did all the good things for her and sasuke was only the guy who did bad things for her and break her heart the thing is why she still loves Sasuke?

She pratically throw at Naruto's face there that he is the best man for her, that Naruto was the only one, that Sasuke pratically had any good influence on her other than being a crush, it only made it seem that her love is incrible shallow.
But after saying all those things she still confirmed her feelings for Sasuke shortly after, just to almost being killed by Sasuke.

I agree that she lied to naruto when she said i love you and that she lied when she said she didnt loved Sasuke anymore but all the statements she said everything was truth.
I cant see her love for Sasuke other than forced and stupid.
I simply cant understand i'm confused a lot, SS does not make any sense.

Hinata has way more reasons to love Naruto than Sakura to love Sasuke.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 March 2013 - 02:01 PM.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 3 2013, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand what you're saying.

My opinion is that if Sakura's going to get over Sasuke for that reason, she needs to do it quickly. Sasuke is already much more mellow than he was at Kage Summit. If the Hokages convince him to deal with Madara and help their side, if only temporarily, Sakura will likely start seeing him in a more optimistic light. Especially if he pops up in the battlefield and tries to seal him.

Still, I think in the end is better that Sakura chooses Naruto based on his own merit, not because Sasuke is evil. Her confession ended badly because that exactly how she described her change of heart.

If that keeps being Sakura's line of thought then one would assume that if Sasuke became good Naruto would never have a chance. That was kind of a running joke some times before Road to Ninja came out. Seeing that picture of AU Sasuke flirting with Sakura many people laughingly claimed that Sakura would pay absolutely no attention to Naruto in the movie and would be more focus on getting the attention of Sasuke.

It's opinions like that which make me want Sakura's stand on her feelings for Naruto to be better addressed next time. She shouldn't be giving the same reasons as she did back then.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 3 2013, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still, I think in the end is better that Sakura chooses Naruto based on his own merit, not because Sasuke is evil. Her confession ended badly because that exactly how she described her change of heart.

If that keeps being Sakura's line of thought then one would assume that if Sasuke became good Naruto would never have a chance. That was kind of a running joke some times before Road to Ninja came out. Seeing that picture of AU Sasuke flirting with Sakura many people laughingly claimed that Sakura would pay absolutely no attention to Naruto in the movie and would be more focus on getting the attention of Sasuke.

It's opinions like that which make me want Sakura's stand on her feelings for Naruto to be better addressed next time. She shouldn't be giving the same reasons as she did back then.

But but... She said that Naruto was the one who was at her side all the time, that he was the one who encouraged her, that he saved the village and she ws like the other ones, that she realized that Naruto has became a great man.

She even described Sasuke as the guy who only did bad things for her and break her heart which even Naruto foresee that couple of times on the manga.
And she wasnt lying on the reasons.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

@Dαrkrєrsŧ
Naruto I choose you because you have being this great men with me while Sasuke has done nothing but break my heart.
Does that sound like a genuine way to tell someone you love them? Or is more about I love you because you're the better choice?
That's why it doesn't make sense to have Sakura feelings switch from Sasuke to Naruto just like that, Sakura needs to come to term with her self about her feelings for Sasuke and what she is planing to do about her relationship with Naruto and how strong are the feelings she haves for him.
Sakura need to figure that out on her own, not because of guilt or because Sasuke is not there.

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What??
I said what if there's a SS that undo she looking at Sasuke on a negative way? Wont undo the "slowly moving on from him" and accepting her feelings then on the final battle when everyone thinking that SS and NH will happen she suddenly realizes that she loves Naruto and end up together wont be bad writing?Wont be forced and unnatural?

And then will come the prophets saying "it was so obvious because he's the main character and Sakura is the heroine".

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 3 2013, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand what you're saying.

My opinion is that if Sakura's going to get over Sasuke for that reason, she needs to do it quickly. Sasuke is already much more mellow than he was at Kage Summit. If the Hokages convince him to deal with Madara and help their side, if only temporarily, Sakura will likely start seeing him in a more optimistic light. Especially if he pops up in the battlefield and tries to seal him.


Nice find and here is another reason why I call all the confuse stuff and the sudden realization bad writing, because if Naruto and Sasuke suddenly realize that they love Naruto>>Hinata and Sasuke>>Sakura NS fans will complain about all the hint we got from Sakura>>Naruto, plus NS before Sasuke redemption kind of gives me as a NS fan a little bad taste. We don't need to see Sakura gating over a bad Sasuke, we need to see Sakura gating over Sasuke the person and there history together since it was clear to her that not even at his best moment he felt something romantically for her.

Edited by Don-kun, 03 March 2013 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Mar 3 2013, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice find and here is another reason why I call all the confuse stuff and the sudden realization bad writing, because if Naruto and Sasuke suddenly realize that they love Naruto>>Hinata and Sasuke>>Sakura NS fans will complain about all the hint we got from Sakura>>Naruto, plus NS before Sasuke redemption kind of gives me as a NS fan a little bad taste. We don't need to see Sakura gating over a bad Sasuke, we need to see Sakura gating over Sasuke the person and there history together since it was clear to her that not even at his best moment he felt something romantically for her.

What confusing me is this, even if Sasuke becames good or whatever will not change the fact that Naruto was the one who encouraged her and etc...
Things that she realized on the confession arc.
What is left for Sasuke? what history other than being a crush?

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Naruto I choose you because you have being this great men with me while Sasuke has done nothing but break my heart.
Does that sound like a genuine way to tell someone you love them? Or is more about I love you because you're the better choice?
That's why it doesn't make sense to have Sakura feelings switch from Sasuke to Naruto just like that, Sakura needs to come to term with her self about her feelings for Sasuke and what she is planing to do about her relationship with Naruto and how strong are the feelings she haves for him.
Sakura need to figure that out on her own, not because of guilt or because Sasuke is not there.

But even if Naruto rejects she should already get over him, if Sauske did nothing to her other than bad stuff why still loves him, Naruto is the guy that did all the good things for her, if Naruto changes to the good side of the force will not change the fact that she already realized that Naruto was the man who was at her side all the time, who encouraged her, her speech wasnt only because Naruto was a good guy but also she realized that he was the one who was at her side, who make her grow who give her encouragement who was responsible for the woman she have became.

And come with terms, i cant understand this anymore, she said that Sasuke wasnt a great man, she said that Sasuke wasnt the guy who encouraged her, that Sasuke wanst at her side all the time, what is left for him other than being a crush.
I do agree with you that she has to come with terms with her feelings, but she saw what is right in front of her and was still unable to have an answer, what type of stupid love is the one she have for Sasuke? it's like she has any reasons to love him.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:13 PM

Well, I have seen a lot of great posts in here and the debate is interesting. I like the posts from Tsubaki. It was really really good and I can't believe I missed it. Maybe there's something we missed after all. I must say it's a shame that we are in break mode with these Hokages' talk and what not. Not saying they're bad, but I think we the people are really eager to see the current standing for NS, mainly where Sakura stands. I want to see how Kishi will clear out this since he's known to resolve everything, small or big.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 3 2013, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I have seen a lot of great posts in here and the debate is interesting. I like the posts from Tsubaki. It was really really good and I can't believe I missed it. Maybe there's something we missed after all. I must say it's a shame that we are in break mode with these Hokages' talk and what not. Not saying they're bad, but I think we the people are really eager to see the current standing for NS, mainly where Sakura stands. I want to see how Kishi will clear out this since he's known to resolve everything, small or big.


You are not adding anything to the current argument, you're just changing the topic while saying things that we are all doing at this point, what waiting to find out what will happen next and how the Manga will unfold.

Next time it will be kind if you at lease try to let us know that you're saying something off topic and not clearly shifting the topic, something you do a lot instead of adding your two sense.

Sorry if I sounded rude trust me is not my intention is just sometimes I wish you would add more to the discussions on the forums and not changing the current discussion or at lease let others know that what you're about to say is not related to what is currently being discussed.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

And what's wrong with that?? the guy was just commenting how good the debate is going. If someone wants to redirect the thread to another topic, it's well within their right to do so. You can either response to it, or just stay on the previous topic. That's all.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Mar 3 2013, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are not adding anything to the current argument, you're just changing the topic while saying things that we are all doing at this point, what waiting to find out what will happen next and how the Manga will unfold.

Next time it will be kind if you at lease try to let us know that you're saying something off topic and not clearly shifting the topic, something you do a lot instead of adding your two sense.

Sorry if I sounded rude trust me is not my intention is just sometimes I wish you would add more to the discussions on the forums and not changing the current discussion or at lease let others know that what you're about to say is not related to what is currently being discussed.

Why cant he change the topic, you can still stay at your disussion with darkrerst right? So whats the problem?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:40 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 3 2013, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I have seen a lot of great posts in here and the debate is interesting. I like the posts from Tsubaki. It was really really good and I can't believe I missed it. Maybe there's something we missed after all. I must say it's a shame that we are in break mode with these Hokages' talk and what not. Not saying they're bad, but I think we the people are really eager to see the current standing for NS, mainly where Sakura stands. I want to see how Kishi will clear out this since he's known to resolve everything, small or big.

I think Kishi will make a great surprise with NS in this arc, and with Sakura as well like what she's going to do in this battle. The absence of Sakura in the group shot, back in 617, is a way telling that her role is next somewhere after the Kages and Sasuke's mini arc. At least, that's the way all the main characters tends to be after such a thing occurred XD

I don't know what Kishi has in store for Sakura for this battle, but he can't let her out of the way when she's present and side characters are present. Main characters do something when they're present like taking action and/or have a specific role for the protagonist in a battle.

Sakura has to appear again in this battle eventually. There's no escape from it.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:40 PM

shamefulcry0js.gif NOOOOOO! dont change the subject please!!!!! shamefulcry0js.gif

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