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[Shashank95]

[rocci]

There's no way kishi will change nh & ss.
There's a reason why ss child is female.
To pair her up with naruto clone.

[TouKen4Life3g]

There's no way kishi will change nh & ss.
There's a reason why ss child is female.
To pair her up with naruto clone.

Well, her story and narrative can fit to any gender, so basically she has a kid one, nothing distinctive. So your reason is valid.

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 06 July 2015 - 04:15 PM.

[rocci]

Well, her story and narrative can fight to any gender, so basically she has a kid one, nothing distinctive. So your reason is valid.

It kind hard for me to imagine that sasuke child is female, since I always expect his child to be a male, because kishi is sexist and sasuke son will make another rivalry with naruto son.
Look at shaman king for example and it's not even a rivalry manga.

[milan kyuubi]

Kinda of topic. But I think we can now officially say Naruto TL was the worse movie based on Japan ratings!

 

http://movies.yahoo.... MOVIE-/349882/

Edited by milan kyuubi, 06 July 2015 - 04:16 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It kind hard for me to imagine that sasuke child is female, since I always expect his child to be a male, because kishi is sexist and sasuke son will make another rivalry with naruto son.
Look at shaman king for example and it's not even a rivalry manga.

Like you said, if it requires what you said, one of them must be a female.

[Ryriena]

 
Just like you were a couple of weeks back......... I suggest you refrain from making stupid assumptions that people are trolls. You didn't want people calling you a troll for coming here and shoving SS down people's throat, so i suggest you show the same courtesy and not call other people troll.
 
God your hypocrisy is unbearable.

Yup

[rocci]

Like you said, if it requires what you said, one of them must be a female.

It seem like he want to make hetero narusasu. But if salad learn medic jutsu, we got black hair sakura along with sharingan.

[Nostradamus]

So, if I got it right, the mini-series has ended?

 

I just skimmed through the discussion, Is this mini-series suppose to make people support SS? Since the impact seems to be the other way around... :) It's still unhealthy as ever. I'm not sure what's more sad to comprehend: the fact that young people in SS fandom thought SS is beautiful, or the fact that an author with family plus a capable team behind were thinking that this is a role model family young people should look up to...

 

The whole "bond is more than blood" was also meant for nothing, it seems... Yikes, now I'm pretty certain everything are not planned to begin with. That's why there's so many plot holes and unbelievable story line. It seems patched and forced. Speaking of which, what is the morale of the story then? What can we learn from the heroes journey? (apart from what *not* to do when younger people grows up and becomes parents themselves).

 

Why do we need Naruto's presence in this story again? What role did he play, apart from being a cheerleader? Where's the new heroine --Hinata and her children? I thought this was supposed to be an opening for the next movie? Will the story be continued in the movie or there's no connection at all?

 

And Kishimoto decided to stop writing about Naruto after the mini-series ended? Hmm.. why does it sound like his editors didn't give him the green light to continue? Frankly, it sounds more like "our plan didn't really work out, so we need to stop now before we cause more damages and loose more money..."

 

I mean, come on, he literally sacrificed everything he built for the past 15 years just for the sake of the New Era project to come alive, and now he call it a quit? (on top of that he burnt the bridges with majority of his loyal fans financing him in the past decade plus... *misleading* us and making us look stupid, the stake was too high just to come up with *one* volume of mini-series isnt it?). Didn't he just said in the interview a while back that the Gaiden story needs a long way to conclude? (not sure if it's legit or not though...)

 

To me, it's clear that this mini-series has made the characters lost their novelty, sympathy and fun. It only makes the whole conclusion even worse...and when the author didn't tell the truth about certain things in his story-telling, it became his Achilles Heel.

 

He told us in the interview that SS was planned since the start, and yet, he admitted that he don't know how they got to each other... It seems so forced. Everything happened off-panel and the readers are being told, instead of shown... Sasuke becomes father who spent more than half of his lifetime not present for his family? Was there any sense of responsibility coming from him? Because I heard Sakura chased him down while she's carrying? (potentially endangering her life plus the life she carries). Again, what's the morale behind the journey?

 

He also mentioned that Hinata is the new heroine and NH was meant to be. Yet, Hinata is still as irrelevant as ever. Not only her, but also her kids.. :) You put Hinata and Bolt out of the equation, and you won't miss anything from the story (apart from Naruto missing his bento). With or without them, the story in the mini-series still goes on... They didn't add value to it. Only dead weight.

 

I personally think NH and SS fandom are being tricked. Read through all those manga panels that he drew, you'd only have two "kisses" (Naruto + Sasuke accidental kiss and Sakura + Naruto CPR), few hugs and tons of build up and positive development, in which none of them involved the canon pairing. What they got in the end? Naruto being a neglectful father, Sasuke were literally never there the whole time. Sakura was disgraceful as a woman and Hinata still not relevant to Naruto.

 

After the ending, Kishimoto had the chance to show to the world what he meant by making them canon in a believable way, yet he choose *not* to show it.

 

And for all those rumors and issues spreading around (silly divorce rumors, low pre-order ticket sales, etc), please ignore them or take them with a grain of salt. It's coming from the author and the SP to get ex-fans riled up. I've burnt enough money for this series to learn that we were just a laughing stock to them. They just want your attention... it's really not worth it, trust me.

 

Heck even from the start of the Gaiden, all of us here at NS fandom already accepted that Sarada is Sakura's daughter. No one's really buy into the mama-drama. Nobody asked for it. Yet, they spent most of the chapters to discuss that thing, which in the end becomes pointless. What's the goal? That's right, to get ex-fans attention, to reclaim the attention they've lost...

 

Give it a break Kishi & SP, you're the one burning the bridge... We're *not* coming back...

That's because none of this crap was planned the correct way. To me it's clear that the bosses wanted to continue milking the series with the next generation and Kishi just wanted to finish as quickly as possible so he can go on holidays or sleep until 4'oclock in the afternoon or whatever he does in his free time.

 

But no one really had a plan how to do it. So what happened is that everything was farmed out to a couple of individuals; like the novels and the movie and then everything was brought back together and Kishi with his canon stamp well stamped all of them as canon and said screw it, kitten it and ship it. Who cares if it makes no sense, I'm done. Just ship it.

 

What these idiots at SP and Kishi are doing right now is just damage control. They are lying out of the ass to try to convince the audience that they indeed had a master plan behind everything. That this was indeed planned. They were wigging it, they were always wigging it.

They lied to us and they're continuing with the lies. Hoping that the audience is dumb enough to buy their lies.

 

 

 

Edited by Nostradamus, 06 July 2015 - 04:27 PM.

[Yyubie]

 

Just like you were a couple of weeks back......... I suggest you refrain from making stupid assumptions that people are trolls. You didn't want people calling you a troll for coming here and shoving SS down people's throat, so i suggest you show the same courtesy and not call other people troll.

 

God your hypocrisy is unbearable.

Maybe he wants you/people here to spent money or at least watch that Boruto movie

[TheFirstEvil100]

Sadly at this point nothing can save this manga I mean the only way that it can be saved is if SP Kishi and WSJ all come out and say we kittened up the ending for pairings that made no sense and all because we were not good at our job, why because we were too in love with Hinata and her needs,

 

And Kishi will have to say he did it for money and greed and that he has now idea how woman work and has a very, very low view on them.

Edited by TheFirstEvil100, 06 July 2015 - 04:34 PM.

[Hatted]

Really ? he's free to have her own theories but really need to call people "retards" ?

Not just this but when the chapter 10 was coming out she said to fans ss kill themself and take photos when karin be revealed the mom and after when the chapter 10 came out with sakura being the mother she started to call sarada kitten and said to sasuke rape and kill sarada

This guy is doing the whole fandom ns seem like bad 

Edited by Hatted, 06 July 2015 - 04:39 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Really ? he's free to have her own theories but really need to call people "retards" ?

Not just this but when the chapter 10 was coming out she said to fans ss kill themself and take photos when karin be revealed the mom and after when the chapter 10 came out with sakura being the mother she started to call sarada kitten and said to sasuke rape and kill sarada

This guy is doing the whole fandom ns seem like bad 

 

Oh that is true but we also need to remember that both the NH and SS fans are just as bad they also call NS fans retards who had bad at seeing as they call it all the hints that were shown to us by Kishi that both NH and SS were going to be canon,

 

Hell you know I have gor death threats when I do and NS story you know what they tell me Hatted. "Go kill your self you NS loser NH for life you kitten I wish I could burn your house down and kill your family." Hell there are worse ones that I have got all from either NH or SS.

[Hatted]

Oh that is true but we also need to remember that both the NH and SS fans are just as bad they also call NS fans retards who had bad at seeing as they call it all the hints that were shown to us by Kishi that both NH and SS were going to be canon,

 

Hell you know I have gor death threats when I do and NS story you know what they tell me Hatted. "Go kill your self you NS loser NH for life you kitten I wish I could burn your house down and kill your family." Hell there are worse ones that I have got all from either NH or SS.

Yeah but this guy is a page with almost 11K of likes

Someone on JP fandom translate some of the posts and the fandom ns in japan are thinking the whole western ns fandom are like this guy

[Gaara's hair]

Shipping...Everyone goes too far with this stuff xD

Ahh, well! 

[RyohkiFan]

Yeah but this guy is a page with almost 11K of likes
Someone on JP fandom translate some of the posts and the fandom ns in japan are thinking the whole western ns fandom are like this guy

That's not true...I have a friend who says they are just like us, some are crazy, some are not...it depends on the person...besides they look at other pages not just this one...but either way this person is just crazy, it's best to ignore them or block them

[Yyubie]

Sadly at this point nothing can save this manga I mean the only way that it can be saved is if SP Kishi and WSJ all come out and say we kittened up the ending for pairings that made no sense and all because we were not good at our job, why because we were too in love with Hinata and her needs,

 

And Kishi will have to say he did it for money and greed and that he has now idea how woman work and has a very, very low view on them.

YESS. This series still can be save but there are few things that SP and Kishi needs in order to do this, They need to openly admit and make public statement that they were screw up they need to explain a lot of things why it ends like that, why kishi said woman is terrible if moved on from first love but both karin and ino can moved on from sasuke, they need to explain all the false advertising on The Last movie including why they use no refunds policy. Bu i don't thing they have the courage to lick their own spit.

 

 

Really ? he's free to have her own theories but really need to call people "retards" ?

Not just this but when the chapter 10 was coming out she said to fans ss kill themself and take photos when karin be revealed the mom and after when the chapter 10 came out with sakura being the mother she started to call sarada kitten and said to sasuke rape and kill sarada

This guy is doing the whole fandom ns seem like bad 

 

You were bringing people outside this forum. Him is him, he is not here, people here were great we do not talk or bash character like that. The problem of human is, they tend to think "If someone hurt me then the whole world must feel my pain". You feel insult from that person and then you guys instantly think WOOOOAAA All NS fans is bad. One people that WE DON'T KNOW causing war and you bring it to us. One people copy and edit/modified your cannon couple and make NS then all NS fans is bad. This is why the world will never be in peace. If one NS fans outside do or talk bad things about NH or SS you instantly see every NS fans is bad.

[Hatted]

You were bringing people outside this forum. Him is him, he is not here, people here were great we do not talk or bash character like that. The problem of human is, they tend to think "If someone hurt me then the whole world must feel my pain". You feel insult from that person and then you guys instantly think WOOOOAAA All NS fans is bad. One people that WE DON'T KNOW causing war and you bring it to us. One people copy and edit/modified your cannon couple and make NS then all NS fans is bad. This is why the world will never be in peace. If one NS fans outside do or talk bad things about NH or SS you instantly see every NS fans is bad.

It's not me who is saying about him but the fandom NS on 2ch :

I'm saying to they not the whole fandom are idiot like this guy and 98% of the fandom don't agree with this page 

[Hatted]

I think some fan SS/NH translate this and said to they the whole fandom ns is acting like this guy

[rocci]

I think some fan SS/NH translate this and said to they the whole fandom ns is acting like this guy

Why is it a problem? Just threat it as fan theory.