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#11741 elmas

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 02:58 PM

I always believed that NS is the end pairing since the beginning.But in order to milk fans and earn much money Kishimoto made NaruSaku complicated and teased all fans.


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:03 PM

I always believed that NS is the end pairing since the beginning.But in order to milk fans and earn much money Kishimoto made NaruSaku complicated and teased all fans.

About the underlined, I prefer to use the words-- In order to maintain the suspense and keep all fans interested-- instead.


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:04 PM

@Raiton

 

Yep, the Gutsy Ninja scenario is basically what I'm just waiting to see happen in the final chapters of the manga.

 

Although from what I remember Kishimoto didn't write that novel, but I think he did supervise the author who did it or at least gave his approval of the novel.



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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:05 PM

 

@Rikoudo

Thanks.

 

I found this, in some random comment on youtube:

"I  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU ALL TO READ THIS,ITS INERESTING AND MIGHT GIVE AWAY POSSIBLY  FEW LAST MANGA CHAPTERS!

Now Jiraiyas book "tales of gutsy ninja Naruto“ was an actual book written BY kishimoto and released in Asia and Europe.It has different names to some charachters,places and abbilities  and different story but the stories basic concept is the same to main series and charachters keep same charachteristics.It has incredible amount of parallels to original story.The ending is open because Jiraiya sensei told Naruto to write the epic end of the book.Now this is close to the end of the book „by coincidence“.Now charachters in book represent following in main series:Shuu(kakashi) tsuyu(sakura) renge(sasuke) naruto(naruto).Story towards the end is hillariously similiar parallel to manga 693 and onward.In it tsuyu failed to save renge from becoming evil chaos who wants to destroy there village and way of life.Naruto goes to fight.Meanwhile shuu comforts tsuyu in despair.Tsuyu tells Shuu she still loves renge.Shuu sensei can give only one final love advice.Shuu tells her that people can realise in whom they ACTUALLY find happiest future and place where they find themselves if they concetrate in deep vision.Tsuyu closes her eyes and SHE NOW SEES NARUTO SMILING INSTEAD OF RENGE.Tsuyu then starts  running towards battlefield where Naruto is because she says she failed saving renge but she knows she must do something and needs to get to naruto.“?"

 

 

That's probably how it's going to happen, if narusaku were to happen. There were enough hints built to make this work, but you gotta feel that kishi started to rein it in after the the stuff with sai because of $$$$$ and not wanting narusaku until the end.

 

But after 693, who knows. It's like, can you just get over the guy you liked when you were 12 who not only does not give a **** about you, but has tried to kill you and the people you care about.. SEVERAL TIMES NOW?



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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:05 PM

WTF? Is he a NS fan or what? fake account? xD

What happened?



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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:08 PM

 

@Rikoudo

Thanks.

 

I found this, in some random comment on youtube:

"I  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU ALL TO READ THIS,ITS INERESTING AND MIGHT GIVE AWAY POSSIBLY  FEW LAST MANGA CHAPTERS!

Now Jiraiyas book "tales of gutsy ninja Naruto“ was an actual book written BY kishimoto and released in Asia and Europe.It has different names to some charachters,places and abbilities  and different story but the stories basic concept is the same to main series and charachters keep same charachteristics.It has incredible amount of parallels to original story.The ending is open because Jiraiya sensei told Naruto to write the epic end of the book.Now this is close to the end of the book „by coincidence“.Now charachters in book represent following in main series:Shuu(kakashi) tsuyu(sakura) renge(sasuke) naruto(naruto).Story towards the end is hillariously similiar parallel to manga 693 and onward.In it tsuyu failed to save renge from becoming evil chaos who wants to destroy there village and way of life.Naruto goes to fight.Meanwhile shuu comforts tsuyu in despair.Tsuyu tells Shuu she still loves renge.Shuu sensei can give only one final love advice.Shuu tells her that people can realise in whom they ACTUALLY find happiest future and place where they find themselves if they concetrate in deep vision.Tsuyu closes her eyes and SHE NOW SEES NARUTO SMILING INSTEAD OF RENGE.Tsuyu then starts  running towards battlefield where Naruto is because she says she failed saving renge but she knows she must do something and needs to get to naruto.“?"

 

This story still leaves Sakura with having romantic feelings for Sasuke (Renge) bc she says she still loves him there is no resolution to it  and playing this in Naruto is bad  bc she has no reason to love him at all , not to mention it makes it look that the only reason she hasn't gotten with him is bc she couldn't save him . This is why I hate this ending I don't see why is this good ?


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:10 PM

@Raiton
 
Yep, the Gutsy Ninja scenario is basically what I'm just waiting to see happen in the final chapters of the manga.
 
Although from what I remember Kishimoto didn't write that novel, but I think he did supervise the author who did it or at least gave his approval of the novel.


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:14 PM

how end that novel?



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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:17 PM

So another week to wait.

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:25 PM

About the underlined, I prefer to use the words-- In order to maintain the suspense and keep all fans interested-- instead.

That can work too.:lol:


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:37 PM

So another week to wait.

3 weeks and we can all die in peace... xD


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:46 PM

how end that novel?

 

I'm actually really curious about that myself, hearing about it now sounds interesting.  If only there were a copy out for the US I'd love to pick it up and give it a read. 

 

 

Though from the scenario that was used in the novel, things could go down that route. 


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:04 PM

 

@Rikoudo

Thanks.

 

I found this, in some random comment on youtube:

"I  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU ALL TO READ THIS,ITS INERESTING AND MIGHT GIVE AWAY POSSIBLY  FEW LAST MANGA CHAPTERS!

Now Jiraiyas book "tales of gutsy ninja Naruto“ was an actual book written BY kishimoto and released in Asia and Europe.It has different names to some charachters,places and abbilities  and different story but the stories basic concept is the same to main series and charachters keep same charachteristics.It has incredible amount of parallels to original story.The ending is open because Jiraiya sensei told Naruto to write the epic end of the book.Now this is close to the end of the book „by coincidence“.Now charachters in book represent following in main series:Shuu(kakashi) tsuyu(sakura) renge(sasuke) naruto(naruto).Story towards the end is hillariously similiar parallel to manga 693 and onward.In it tsuyu failed to save renge from becoming evil chaos who wants to destroy there village and way of life.Naruto goes to fight.Meanwhile shuu comforts tsuyu in despair.Tsuyu tells Shuu she still loves renge.Shuu sensei can give only one final love advice.Shuu tells her that people can realise in whom they ACTUALLY find happiest future and place where they find themselves if they concetrate in deep vision.Tsuyu closes her eyes and SHE NOW SEES NARUTO SMILING INSTEAD OF RENGE.Tsuyu then starts  running towards battlefield where Naruto is because she says she failed saving renge but she knows she must do something and needs to get to naruto.“?"

 

 

I'm pretty sure some fans denounced this youtube comment, but what can you do, really? Anyways, is there anyway I can get this real life light novel version of Jiraiya's book? Or at least read translated scans?

 

 

That's probably how it's going to happen, if narusaku were to happen. There were enough hints built to make this work, but you gotta feel that kishi started to rein it in after the the stuff with sai because of $$$$$ and not wanting narusaku until the end.

 

But after 693, who knows. It's like, can you just get over the guy you liked when you were 12 who not only does not give a **** about you, but has tried to kill you and the people you care about.. SEVERAL TIMES NOW?

 

 

This story still leaves Sakura with having romantic feelings for Sasuke (Renge) bc she says she still loves him there is no resolution to it  and playing this in Naruto is bad  bc she has no reason to love him at all , not to mention it makes it look that the only reason she hasn't gotten with him is bc she couldn't save him . This is why I hate this ending I don't see why is this good ?

 

For the last time, didn't someone confirm that Sakura doesn't want to be with Sasuke but rather save him because she cares about him as a friend? The fan translations gave off the impression that she still has romantic feelings for him despite the fact that the raw scans had Sasuke reject and question Sakura's feelings while Kakashi denied that Sakura still loved him in a romantic way.

 

Or am I just missing something here? Ever since chapter 693 came out, many of you have lost confidence in this ship all because of a few screwed up translations from what I understand. NaruSaku will happen eventually, it's just gonna take some time before it happens. So can we at least try to be patient until that moment arrives? Then we can bring out all the food and drugs we want and get kittenfaced over our victory. Or drown our sorrows if we lose, but the likelihood of that happening is pretty low. Whatever the outcome is, lets just wait until we get a definitive moment the screams canon for one ship or another and whatever happens happens.

 

Now on to the topic of the film. So are we getting a new trailer on the 18th of November or not? I've heard someone mention that earlier in this thread but I'm not sure if that was a rumor or legitimate information. Also when will the conference with the Voice Actors take place? Perhaps we could get a tiny bit of new info from whatever they have to say about the film.



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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:13 PM

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i think she still has romantic feelings for him, but she is only imagining what he is not really. and she still didn't confessed but prayed to him. I  think she consider helself a disgrace and unable to save a loved one to her. She doesn't want to have a relationship with him but only save him, bring him back and live happily together in team 7. But as we know, her feelings are not strong enough to move him. That has always been the Naruto's duty.

And Kakashi said "ai suru/ai kittene" that is not platonic love. As I said before, Sasuke and Sakura do not share any family bond so don't compare it to Kushina or Itachi's words. Chapter 540 and the color page of chapter 686 are now clear.  :sick: 


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:20 PM

Imagine if the fan translation was all real. Biggest screwup that the world will have to recover and it will take a while.

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:23 PM

Agreed with 六道仙人 and Raiton that Sakura still loves Sasuke romantically. :/

This person explains it very well.

Guys we shouldn't deny it... It just doesn't look good. However we can say that Sakura can't imagine herself being with Sasuke as he is now, so eventually she will have to move on once she realIzes he isn't budging.

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:26 PM

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And Kakashi said "ai suru/ai kittene" that is not platonic love. As I said before, Sasuke and Sakura do not share any family bond so don't compare it to Kushina or Itachi's words. Chapter 540 and the color page of chapter 686 are now clear.  :sick: 

Naruto and Sasuke don't share a family bond either, yet he considers him a "brother". It's no different. Right before that Kakashi literally just said that she has no desire to be with him. Team 7 consider each other "family" so it does still make sense.

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:28 PM

@K9ofChaos

And Kakashi said "ai suru/ai kittene" that is not platonic love. As I said before, Sasuke and Sakura do not share any family bond so don't compare it to Kushina or Itachi's words. Chapter 540 and the color page of chapter 686 are now clear.  :sick:

Kakashi used it as well when talking about Team 7, right?


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:28 PM

how end that novel?

 

 

I'm actually really curious about that myself, hearing about it now sounds interesting.  If only there were a copy out for the US I'd love to pick it up and give it a read. 

 

 

Though from the scenario that was used in the novel, things could go down that route. 

 

It's open ended, but it's hinted that Tsuyu, should they come out of everthing alive, will end up with Naruto, because just at the end the scene with Shu making her realize her priority is appearing.

 

Also, if somebody is doubting if Kishi is an author:

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His name is written as one and there is no word of it saying "based on the Naruto manga!" And believe me, in Germany we are strict about such stuff.1


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 04:29 PM

@Rikoudo
Thanks.
 
I found this, in some random comment on youtube:
"I  VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU ALL TO READ THIS,ITS INERESTING AND MIGHT GIVE AWAY POSSIBLY  FEW LAST MANGA CHAPTERS!
Now Jiraiyas book "tales of gutsy ninja Naruto“ was an actual book written BY kishimoto and released in Asia and Europe.It has different names to some charachters,places and abbilities  and different story but the stories basic concept is the same to main series and charachters keep same charachteristics.It has incredible amount of parallels to original story.The ending is open because Jiraiya sensei told Naruto to write the epic end of the book.Now this is close to the end of the book „by coincidence“.Now charachters in book represent following in main series:Shuu(kakashi) tsuyu(sakura) renge(sasuke) naruto(naruto).Story towards the end is hillariously similiar parallel to manga 693 and onward.In it tsuyu failed to save renge from becoming evil chaos who wants to destroy there village and way of life.Naruto goes to fight.Meanwhile shuu comforts tsuyu in despair.Tsuyu tells Shuu she still loves renge.Shuu sensei can give only one final love advice.Shuu tells her that people can realise in whom they ACTUALLY find happiest future and place where they find themselves if they concetrate in deep vision.Tsuyu closes her eyes and SHE NOW SEES NARUTO SMILING INSTEAD OF RENGE.Tsuyu then starts  running towards battlefield where Naruto is because she says she failed saving renge but she knows she must do something and needs to get to naruto.“?"


The thing is, Sakura shouldn't need Kakashi to help her understand who she truly loves. She should come to this conclusion on her own. But if this is the best Kishi can do in making NS canon, then I'll take it and run. So be it.

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