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[sushi.]

Considering that we've seen Sakura looking sad twice before when it comes to Hinata and Naruto, this is very possible. And can someone please explain to me why it would be so bad if it's a little fanfic-ish? xD. Isn't a fanfic a story, and isn't a manga a story? So...why is it such a bad connection between those two things? Or is it that it's another way of saying that it's too...far-fetched?

Hmm..I've never thought of that before. I think it's basically about dividing proffessional writers and hobby writers.

Slextrem, I think it would be great, and I would like a sad moment like this after the battle. Maybe I just want sadness and sorrow to be played, while one of the characters says the classic after-battle-line, "It's over." It would also be a continuation to chapter 14, where she asked herself "What is this feeling?"

Finally she got her answer.

[Slextrem]

The NaruSaku moment would make me happy, but the the context of the hypothetical situation you wrote would make me sad
It would imply:
-That Madara & Obito were defeated without serious losses among the cast
-That Hinata not only played a prominent role in the battle, but that she was also working closely together with Naruto
-That Sakura was indeed at the battlefield, away from the front lines, and simply healing fodder-this whole time

Oh, I didn't mean that there won't be any other serious losses or that Sakura won't do anything other than heal fodder-nin. I have no idea what Kishimoto has planned as far as those two things go, so that's why I didn't bother elaborating on any of that. I was only using the information that we have right now instead of incorporating personal predictions for deaths and Sakura's shining moment. Does that make sense?

Edited by Slextrem, 02 March 2013 - 08:44 PM.

[Baguette]

Ah ok. In that case I'm all for having a moment like this happen

Edited by Baguette, 02 March 2013 - 08:44 PM.

[Slextrem]

Considering that we've seen Sakura looking sad twice before when it comes to Hinata and Naruto, this is very possible. And can someone please explain to me why it would be so bad if it's a little fanfic-ish? xD. Isn't a fanfic a story, and isn't a manga a story? So...why is it such a bad connection between those two things? Or is it that it's another way of saying that it's too...far-fetched?

Yes, I was meaning that perhaps it's a bit too bias/farfetched of an idea to actually occur in the manga. I'm not sure. Personally, I can see the moment happening, but I'm completely bias for NaruSaku so I can't go by my own word.

Slextrem, I think it would be great, and I would like a sad moment like this after the battle. Maybe I just want sadness and sorrow to be played, while one of the characters says the classic after-battle-line, "It's over." It would also be a continuation to chapter 14, where she asked herself "What is this feeling?"

Finally she got her answer.

I'm also looking for a sad or more emotional moment between the two of them. I love seeing tension between Naruto and Sakura and watching them work through it. That's probably why I like this idea so much.

LOL! Looks like I made an accidental connection to a previous NaruSaku moment!

Edited by Slextrem, 02 March 2013 - 08:54 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I am curious as to why Kishi had Sakura learning about Hinata's love with Naruto, only to disturb her. Kishi created that panel for a reason and in a way, it was interrupted by the news of Naruto being normal again. It's the same arc in which Sakura hugged Naruto. So, what does this all even mean? In love story, you can go two directions with a character who is claimed not feeling anything for a specific character. One is jealousy, though since it's always in a bad conflict, there's no room for jokes. The other is sadness because there's someone else and you don't want to lose that guy in any ways. It's a bit selfish in a way, but that's just nature of feelings. You can overcome it but let's face it, depending how deep it is, it will be heartbroken.

[soraandven]

here's the japanese version of the ending and don't worry nh fans are not going crazy over the order of characters for the final punch and if they do go crazy over it i can just tell them to watch the ending scene

[TouKen4Life3g]

here's the japanese version of the ending and don't worry nh fans are not going crazy over the order of characters for the final punch and if they do go crazy over it i can just tell them to watch the ending scene

Thanks for the Japanese version. Erm, who's worrying? Isn't it obvious that it's the thoughts of his friends, his promise to kages, and promise to all Jinchuuriki? I'm not saying it's you but I think all of us, including outside fans are smart to think this way.

[Arachnia]

I understand but the drama alreayd exist because of 615 and i'm not deying that she loves Sasuke i'm saying is 540 showed her starting to get over it and then suddenly comes an asspull to undo what she thought about Sasuke on 540.
It's just bad writing for kishi to put more drama at the cost of Sakura's character.

Just look at teggen no toppa it's shown that Kamina and Nia would end up together even Kamina saves her on the bridal style then Kamina dies and have a time-skip when go back it's shown Simon and Nia marrying.

That's why i believe there will be a NS moment soon.

was kamina not with that red haired girl

[TouKen4Life3g]

was kamina not with that red haired girl

Don't worry, he misunderstood it. It's been dealt with. Sorry.

[Master_Naruto]

So I started reading the manga and I noticed just how much more pissed Sakura is at Sasuke when he tells off Naruto compared to the anime. You can clearly see how angry she is here which I thought pretty much further reinforces who's side she's on. The giant (GLARE) character really does emphasize this too in my opinion. Check it:

the glare

[redragon88]

was kamina not with that red haired girl

From left to right: Yoko, Kamina, Nia, and Simon.

Edited by redragon88, 02 March 2013 - 11:23 PM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Hello, this is a public service announcement, good evening. Topic today is:

Why "Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto" has some very, very bad implications for NS:

Sasuke tried to kill Sakura, yet Sakura still loved him. Naruto saved her from Sasuke, yet Sakura is still, according to you, confused about her feelings for Naruto. So basically the love of her life/one true love Naruto can save her from her shallow crush Sasuke, and even after that Sakura still can't figure out which one she prefers. Some deep feelings Sakura has there for Naruto, doesn't she, huh? Such a hard choice, between Sasuke and Naruto, so tough to choose.

Arguing that "Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto" after chapters like the summit arc and ch 540 just makes it sound like Sakura is some silly, dumb person who can't see what is right in front of her eyes even when that is specifically pointed out to her. This argument also makes it seem like Sakura's love for Naruto is not too deep or meaningful since she has such a hard time figuring out that she prefers Naruto instead of the guy who tried to kill her twice.

TL;DR: "Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto" does nothing good to NS. In fact, it helps SS a lot more than it does NS because it makes Sakura's feelings for Sasuke so strong that, even after he tries to kill her, she is merely just "confused" whether she might prefer Naruto after all. So when you argue that Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto, you actually end up undermining her supposed love for Naruto while at the same time fortifying her feelings for Sasuke.

Of course, NS is f**cked either way. If Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto = Sakura's love for Naruto is far from strong = bad NS. If she is not confused = no NS. Awesome options. If you ship SS, that is.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Hello, this is a public service announcement, good evening. Topic today is:

Why "Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto" has some very, very bad implications for NS:

Sasuke tried to kill Sakura, yet Sakura still loved him. Naruto saved her from Sasuke, yet Sakura is still, according to you, confused about her feelings for Naruto. So basically the love of her life/one true love Naruto can save her from her shallow crush Sasuke, and even after that Sakura still can't figure out which one she prefers. Some deep feelings Sakura has there for Naruto, doesn't she, huh? Such a hard choice, between Sasuke and Naruto, so tough to choose.

She's not like Hinata who loves Naruto because of his status i think this pretty much describe off, she fall in love with Sasuke it's not a matter of choice it's just because she loves Sasuke, this is a fiction work so real life does not work here, her feelings for Naruto is growing and today Naruto is more important to her than Sasuke.

Arguing that "Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto" after chapters like the summit arc and ch 540 just makes it sound like Sakura is some silly, dumb person who can't see what is right in front of her eyes even when that is specifically pointed out to her. This argument also makes it seem like Sakura's love for Naruto is not too deep or meaningful since she has such a hard time figuring out that she prefers Naruto instead of the guy who tried to kill her twice.

I think we go back to confession arc, she fully understand that Naruto is a better choice for her but still she does not found a answer to what she really feels towards Naruto, and i think Naruto is also aware of this since the end of part 1 that she loves Sasuke.

TL;DR: "Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto" does nothing good to NS. In fact, it helps SS a lot more than it does NS because it makes Sakura's feelings for Sasuke so strong that, even after he tries to kill her, she is merely just "confused" whether she might prefer Naruto after all. So when you argue that Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto, you actually end up undermining her supposed love for Naruto while at the same time fortifying her feelings for Sasuke.

Of course, NS is f**cked either way. If Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto = Sakura's love for Naruto is far from strong = bad NS. If she is not confused = no NS. Awesome options. If you ship SS, that is.

This feelings shift to love on special occasions, this whole "confused" does not diminish those feelings, she loves Sasuke no one here is denying it, but the fact that she does have feelings open a path that she may afterwards truly loves him and also on your logic prety much describes that she choose Naruto because she could not be with Sasuke.
Naruto is not her second best for her to accept her feelings for Naruto she has to move on from Sasuke this is different than "Sasuke tries to kill me two times pick Naruto".

Also who said she prefers Sasuke as far as i remember she was very very sad because of those feelings for him.


TL;DR

She choose Naruto on the confession arc when she said everything about Naruto and other stuff, when she said that Sasuke was a criminal and could not continue loving someome who's a criminal and everything.
She knows that Naruto is the best choice but she did not found an answer to her true feelings.
540 opened her path to move on from Sasuke.

Naruto is not her second best think about it.

Also i'm going to leave the thread i dont like NS vs SS vs NH debates ( i already see 2 double standards on your post).

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 March 2013 - 12:42 AM.

[redragon88]

Poison-chan you're back!

I bet the debate thread is going to get busy now.

[kirabook]

You shouldn't be required to love someone under any circumstances.

Sakura does not have a hero complex. Naruto saving her from death a few times should not immediately cause her to fall in love with him. That's something Hinata would do (technically already did)

Personally, I want Sakura to fall in love with Naruto not because he saved her from having a kunai jabbed into her back, but because of their friendship and how much time they have spent together. The more time they spend together as friends and just being there with one another, the better. That is why Sakura's love might be confusing to her.

She loved Sasuke because he was the cool guy, he had a nice smile (I think she thought that anyway), and she wanted his acknowledgement. That's literally the only true reasons we were given for her liking him. When she was 12 years old, she was convinced that was love. And even when that love should have crumbled, Naruto only strengthen it and made her believe her love was true and right by making the POAL. Every step of the way, even during her love confession to him, Naruto has encouraged her to believe that she's in love with Sasuke and Sasuke alone.

We can say she is confused because she 'loves' Sasuke, yet she willingly went to kill him or die so that Naruto was not suffering under the burden she unintentionally created. She wept at the thought of causing Naruto so much pain and only after Naruto refused did she take steeper methods of saving him from 'saving' Sasuke. To me, her actions speak louder than anything she or Naruto consciously thinks.

You may think her love for Sasuke is a threat, but I see it as an obstacle Sakura is destined to overcome. While it did not build NS (some people say the absence of Sasuke is what built their relationship, but how can ones absence help if they aren't there doing anything to help in the first place?) it is a natural challenge that NS is destined to defeat. Sakura loves both boys. What matters is not the fact that she loves Sasuke, but who she loves more and who she is more willing to risk everything for. That was already revealed in the summit arc. She cares more about Naruto, and she was willing to risk her life for him.

(forgot to add) So why would she be confused about being in love with Naruto? It's because her love for Naruto was built in a completely different way than her love for Sasuke's. Sasuke seems to represent what she thinks is love, and we can all agree her relationship has never been anything like hers with Sasuke's. I don't think it's far fetched to believe that she wouldn't truly recognize the feelings she has for Naruto are love as well.

Edited by kirabook, 03 March 2013 - 12:52 AM.

[bthug]

You shouldn't be required to love someone under any circumstances.

Sakura does not have a hero complex. Naruto saving her from death a few times should not immediately cause her to fall in love with him. That's something Hinata would do (technically already did)

Personally, I want Sakura to fall in love with Naruto not because he saved her from having a kunai jabbed into her back, but because of their friendship and how much time they have spent together. The more time they spend together as friends and just being there with one another, the better. That is why Sakura's love might be confusing to her.

She loved Sasuke because he was the cool guy, he had a nice smile (I think she thought that anyway), and she wanted his acknowledgement. That's literally the only true reasons we were given for her liking him. When she was 12 years old, she was convinced that was love. And even when that love should have crumbled, Naruto only strengthen it and made her believe her love was true and right by making the POAL. Every step of the way, even during her love confession to him, Naruto has encouraged her to believe that she's in love with Sasuke and Sasuke alone.

We can say she is confused because she 'loves' Sasuke, yet she willingly went to kill him or die so that Naruto was not suffering under the burden she unintentionally created. She wept at the thought of causing Naruto so much pain and only after Naruto refused did she take steeper methods of saving him from 'saving' Sasuke. To me, her actions speak louder than anything she or Naruto consciously thinks.

You may think her love for Sasuke is a threat, but I see it as an obstacle Sakura is destined to overcome. While it did not build NS (some people say the absence of Sasuke is what built their relationship, but how can ones absence help if they aren't there doing anything to help in the first place?) it is a natural challenge that NS is destined to defeat. Sakura loves both boys. What matters is not the fact that she loves Sasuke, but who she loves more and who she is more willing to risk everything for. That was already revealed in the summit arc. She cares more about Naruto, and she was willing to risk her life for him.

(forgot to add) So why would she be confused about being in love with Naruto? It's because her love for Naruto was built in a completely different way than her love for Sasuke's. Sasuke seems to represent what she thinks is love, and we can all agree her relationship has never been anything like hers with Sasuke's. I don't think it's far fetched to believe that she wouldn't truly recognize the feelings she has for Naruto are love as well.

I think thats what kishi is doing.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Actually, Poision, Sakura being confused over what she feels for Naruto (which is canon fact btw, it was confirmed by Kishi) helps us very much. And I don't think it's much of a surprise at all, it actually makes a lot of sense.

It's no question that Sakura's relationship with both Naruto and Sasuke are vastly different from each other. They were created and developed in different ways. When she claimed to fall in love with Sasuke, she was a 13-year old girl who was very naive and impressionable. Sakura always had feelings for him, he's always what she associates with love, and it's what she was convinced was the most powerful love she could ever feel. Sakura never thought she would love anyone else, just Sasuke. Naturally, Sasuke= Romantic love. It's what she's so accustomed to doing, she doesn't really see anything else consciously.

Her relationship with Sasuke was bulid by angst, repression of her personality, constant worry over his dark side, and of course Team 7 bond. That's the only type of love she's ever known, can you really blame her for this current confusion?

With Naruto, it's 10 kinds of different. She originally disliked him and then slowly grows to be close friends with him by the end of Part 1. Part 2 kickstarted everything for her. Sakura sees his struggles and how much he actually went through that she was ignorant about, how hard he tries to help Sasuke and how he tries to handle everything on his own, all of this causes her to feel a strong emotional attachment to him. It developed quickly, so quickly I'm sure it's what confuses her so much. But the thing about Sakura is that she doesn't think nor probably likes to think about what she feels for Naruto now, she just does what her heart tells her to do. Protect Naruto and there for him in every way possible. This is how her true feelings for him are IMO shown.

You're half right. The reason why Sakura can't understand if she loves Naruto or not is because what she feels for him is different than what she feels for Sasuke. It's creation was different, it's concept is different. Why I'm not worried about this? Because it's almost like she's questioning what true love is. She loves Sasuke and that's what she always thought true love is, but then unsuspectingly, Naruto begins to dull that idea. He's always been by her side and understood more than anyone else. But that's not what truly confuses her, what confuses her is the feelings he creates in her. Sakura's grown so close to him in such a short amount of time, it's already to the point where she would rather give up on Sasuke so Naruto's safety could be preserved. She wants him alive more than she wants Sasuke alive (the guy she's supposed to love). Already, she seems to subconsciously chosen Naruto over Sasuke. She just needs to realize it.

Her relationship with Naruto is build off of happiness, empathy, mutual support, Team 7 bond, and selfless behavior. Mostly very different for what she went through with Sasuke. So if it's so different and brought on by different things, when all she's ever known is what loving Sasuke does to her, then how would she easily realize she loves Naruto romantically too? Sure, Sakura wants the same thing: she wants Naruto to open up to her more so she can be there for him better and help him from himself. That's exactly what she wanted with Sasuke too. But her image of love for Sasuke in Part 1 conflicts with the possible love she may feel for Naruto. Like I said, she's questioning what love really is. That's why she's confused over Naruto as well.

IMO, her love for Naruto is so much stronger and truer than what she ever felt for Sasuke. That can support the "Confusion is +NS". If you think the first love is true love, yet then you're proven that the love you feel for someone else is actually true love. However, you believed you loved the first person more than you would ever love anyone and can't realize it immediately that's it's a lie because you're accustomed to the first example. The fact that she's been friends with Naruto for years and never used to feel like this for him is also confusing to her, he's no longer just a friend to her. It's sometimes hard to realize you've fallen for your best friend because before, you saw them as just that. A friend. Being in love with Sasuke before doesn't help either.

So, really, Sakura falling in love with Naruto yet not realizing it, is far from far-fetched, given the cirumstances.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 03 March 2013 - 03:43 AM.

[kirabook]

Naruto questions the idea of a shinobi and the cycle of hatred. (maybe less about a shinobi and more about why everyone must hate each other)
Sakura questions what true love really is and what it means. (not like "OMG HE'S MY TRUE LOVE", but what it means to love someone)
And Sasuke wonders what a shinobi is in the first place. (and the meaning of life )

[ramenanmitsu]

It's been like months? since I last came here.

And now that I'm drunk, I'll just say something stupid and go to sleep.
I think the reason why Sakura is confused about her feelings for Naruto is because he is like a comfortable shoe. The shoe is so comfortable, that she doesn't even realize she's wearing it, while she's walking. It's only when the shoes are gone and she's walking barefoot, she gets hurt with all the stones, glass pieces on the road and she'll realize that she can't walk anymore without those shoes.

I think in order for Sakura to realize her feelings for Naruto(if she loves him), she needs to think about him gone(=dying). NH happening, won't make Sakura notice , because he'll still be a comfortable shoe to her, no matter who he's with he'll still comfort her and protect her. So, he's not really "gone" and he's still there.

But it would be really hard for her to realize her feelings by having her think she might lose Naruto(=him dying), because she trusts him so much, have so much faith in him, that she doesn't have a doubt that he might die in battle.

However in Hinata's case, it's easy for her to realize her own feelings. She is afraid for him, thinks that she might never see him when he's in battle. Thus, pushing her to get in action when Naruto is in a hard battle. Trying to at least be there with him, cause anytime might be his last.

Just saying.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 March 2013 - 03:55 AM.

[Arachnia]

offtopic but i came on youtube and i saw this:



and well i laughed in a good way creative song choice.