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#11641 六道仙人

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


All the characters dub voices certainly is not Hinata neither Kushina.


Slextrem could be right here... She could be the adult version of Sakura, maybe after narrating the story of Naruto to her kids..?

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 2 2013, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a good surprise for us



just skip to minute 46

Seems that it's Sakura's voice to me too. It's obviously not the voice of other females.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


All the characters dub voices certainly is not Hinata neither Kushina.

After listening to that, it sounds a lot more like Kushina than Hinata or Sakura. sleep.gif
Oh well. It makes more sense for her to say that line, given that Storm 3 tells the story of her family. smile.gif

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 2 2013, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seemt's the sakura's voice to me...

I'm pretty sure it's Kushina. The same voice appears in the beginning of the game but that time around she was describing Minato as the hero.

Still, the ending where Sakura is the first to notice Naruto after he wakes up and then scolds him a little is a pretty nice touch.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:30 PM

After listening to it again, it's pretty much Kushina's.

Well, both of them have somewhat the same kind of voice.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Mar 2 2013, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
relieved and braggy.



QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 2 2013, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Depends on what the moment is.
If it's solid, I would be would be extremely happy, not just for the moment itself, but for all the different ways NaruHina fans are going to attempt to rationalize it. heheelq7.png



QUOTE (MangaReader @ Mar 2 2013, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Get my popcorn and sit back and read some comments. Otherwise, nothing really happy.gif



QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 2 2013, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we'll all feel a wave of relief. Our confidence in NaruSaku has been shaken more than once since the start of this war arc, so having a confirmation that the pairing is still standing will make us all feel a lot more settled than we have been as of late.

Though I do hope that we act appropriately if NaruSaku is given a moment in the manga. I don't want to see our fandom stoop to the same levels that others have. We all need to keep in mind how 540 & 615 initially made us feel and how upsetting it was dealing with other fans throwing those moments in our face all day. I believe that this fandom can hold its head up high without inflating it with air.

Nice comments on my question. It's funny how outside of manga, they seemed cool that NS is still good to go whenever Kishi makes the call. Is there something we miss? It feels like a scenario of Liar Game. Anyway, I believe that people needs a manga proof to nail the coffin, because people are making this belief that NS is dead. Here's the thing, didn't people said this a while back, only to see Sai figured out Naruto loves Sakura and didn't deny it at all, rather embarrass because, aren't we all when our secret exposed. Now, it's like we need to confirm it again.

But honestly, when you really thinking about it, if NS moment does happen, it will be a crushing defeat. Why? Think about it. Hinata got a physical touch and helped Naruto, hand holding (regardless the intention, just give them some fire), and now, apparently people thinks it's canon. It's like a game where one player has all the gems to win but then the other player plays a trump card and all of that goes to that player now. If you ask me, this is building up to an ultimate troll. You thought the confession was bad, get ready for the worst among worst. Nevertheless, we do need a moment and the battle finally got to the important piece of it. We'll see what happens next.

QUOTE (Kakashi-Sensei @ Mar 2 2013, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good point there , i think that if a NS moment happear in future chapters we should be happy for ourselfs, that our chipping is finnaly canon , and not happy because we can laught of others fans that prefer NaruHina or SasuSaku. They like there pairs as much as we like NaruSaku.

But even then , if NaruSaku is finally canon one day i will be very happy tongue.gif

I must admit, as much as I would be happy, I can't help but feel like one day I will go trolling mode but I won't. So instead, as you read my old message, I'm only giving them a final warning. It's the least I can do.

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 2 2013, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I feel kinda bad. sweatdrop.gif
I wouldn't be able to resist going on NB, posting the NaruSaku panels, then going kruemelmonsteryn0.gif at the NaruHina fans.

Read above.

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 2 2013, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well lets just hope the editors dont decide to hijack one of the top ranking mangas form the author to make NH/SS canon and destroy the whole story therefore loosing a kittenload of money. I mersoanly have started buying all the manga and if they do that i will stop at some point.

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I hope this is how he does it in the manga. This is some good writting.

Oddly enough, wouldn't they still go for NS because of how it's being portrayed in media in the first place? Yes, characters' popularity applies but not really on pairings. Imagine if top 10 is all guys. Does that mean SN will happen? Honestly, I don't think they have that much power in this, repeat this, timeline. They only can suggest and advice but you don't have to say, "Well, fans like them, so be it." Hell, even editors would tell them to not follow them or else it won't be your manga anymore. Plus, he's giving us a backstory that in someway, we don't need it. Why he's doing it? He loves it, that's why. He loves the universe he created. Editors would have told him to cut the BS, but if that's not the case, then that means they really don't have anything to say, especially with Kishi. Again, he has said this in recent interviews that he knows the main plot points. The challenge is how he get there. Honestly, side characters are the "how to get there" part. At times, when we go to important piece of the manga, Naruto always felt like he ignored on what just happen and move to the main plot point. He sure didn't say, "Hey, where's Hinata?" in Pain arc. I hope you get what I mean. Until then, I'm not buying it.

Btw, that would actually pleases me more than her fading away, like many side characters in past mangas.

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 2 2013, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just happy because it's the pairing I support the most with SasuKarin.
Relieved no, because it is already obvious to me that NH is dead. If she never would say that (stop chasing after you) I would be like the most of the fans, I would see a NH coming at 99%.
Hinata's fans aren't being trolled, Kishi already gave them the answer.

If they will feel trolled in the end, it's just their fault for not paying attention what Hinata said before joining the battlefield.

Interesting, but I don't mind this at all. I didn't know you considered Sasuke getting paired a possibility. I'm undetermined because it's hard for me to say since well, I wouldn't say it's vague, but I feel like there's a plan. I don't know what is but I have to wait and see.

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And here we go.

I remember everyone saying that NS was 100% or 99% just to 615 come and scream that NH was canon.

Therefore i dont see NH dead because Sakura hasnt get over Sasuke and Hinata is there trying to be more for Naruto, for me Kishi just raised the drama to the ending.
His asspuls and inconsistences make seem that i do not have faith on him my rate is 70% for NS and 30% for asspulls.

I must be only on this one. No need to agree with me, everyone. It's an opinion. When I read Naruto, I always read in a neutral guy. After done reading, I go back and reread to see anything I miss or analyze it deeper. Sometimes I think people has their shipping goggles for like forever. I'm not saying you are, but some read it and one moment are boost by 200%. For example, if Naruto points at Hinata to guys to let them she's there, that's like a pairing moment all the sudden. Honestly, that's how I felt for 615. My main excuse and honestly, it's a legit one, is that evey moments need a follow up and/or surroundings to set the mood. 616 really hurts it.

Honestly, I don't really see that much of inconsistencies or asspulls of a character's characteristic. What I mean is that their intentions/feelings will always remain true while their battles or at times emotions can be random. It's like fillers, you can say all you want about Hinata, but your status remains the same. That's why I think I'm alone in this, but that's fine. I'm still neutral with it and nothing has told me, "game over."

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 2 2013, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a good surprise for us



just skip to minute 46


38:18 first person he thinks of: Hinata dry.gif Brace yourselves for NH asspull laugh.gif

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 2 2013, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After listening to that, it sounds a lot more like Kushina than Hinata or Sakura. sleep.gif
Oh well. It makes more sense for her to say that line, given that Storm 3 tells the story of her family. smile.gif

Yep i compared the voice of the two videos and yes you're right it's kushina she also says "i love you" on the dubs videos and it's pratically identical.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep i compared the voice of the two videos and yes you're right it's kushina she also says "i love you" on the dubs videos and it's pratically identical.

Its sakura for sure, why should kushina say "this is the stroy of the hero i love" and it shows a picture of team seven not to meantion that in that scene sakura was seen most of the time.
Also hear how she say i love, is that how a mother would say i love you too her son?

Edited by PhenixElite, 02 March 2013 - 03:46 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Mar 2 2013, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its sakura for sure, why should kushina say "this is the stroy of the hero i love" and it shows a picture of team seven not to meantion that in that scene sakura was seen most of the time


It COULD be sakura's voice in the future??? very farfetched, but people have already said it's kushina's which makes sense

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 2 2013, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
38:18 first person he thinks of: Hinata dry.gif Brace yourselves for NH asspull laugh.gif


so Kiba and Shino are the second and third people most important of his life? cool.gif

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 2 2013, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It COULD be sakura's voice in the future??? very farfetched, but people have already said it's kushina's which makes sense

How is that making sense? Is that the way how a mother says i love you? defenetly not

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Mar 2 2013, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its sakura for sure, why should kushina say "this is the stroy of the hero i love" and it shows a picture of team seven not to meantion that in that scene sakura was seen most of the time.
Also hear how she say i love, is that how a mother would say i love you too her son?



6:58 i still have doubts if it's kushina or sakura's voice on a future.

I know it has a romantic impliying on the "this is the story of the hero i love" .

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Mar 2 2013, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How is that making sense? Is that the way how a mother says i love you? defenetly not

Because a mother loves her child. Kushina loves two people: Minato and Naruto. Obviously she doesn't love Naruto in a romantic way but of course she loves him as his mother. It's not weird for her to say, "This is the story of a hero I love", in reference to Naruto unless you make it weird.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 2 2013, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a good surprise for us



just skip to minute 46

Ugh. Dubs. I don't know the answer on who is that. I do think it's Kushina though.

Random note: why Gaara has darksiders' protagonist voice. I can't help but think of him with a grim horse.

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 2 2013, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm pretty sure it's Kushina. The same voice appears in the beginning of the game but that time around she was describing Minato as the hero.

Still, the ending where Sakura is the first to notice Naruto after he wakes up and then scolds him a little is a pretty nice touch.

Indeed, my friend. At one point, it looks like that nice scene where two people found each other in the crowded area, like fate of two birds, but I digress. I did like Naruto's special smile.

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 2 2013, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After listening to it again, it's pretty much Kushina's.

Well, both of them have somewhat the same kind of voice.

More parallels, even outside of anime! Lol I'm kidding, though they are somewhat similar. It's the age.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 2 2013, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

6:58 i still have doubts if it's kushina or sakura's voice on a future.


They're a lot similar but for some reason it doesn't sounds as kushina's voice at 100% to me... I dunno why... maybe due to her tone...

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Mar 2 2013, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because a mother loves her child. Kushina loves two people: Minato and Naruto. Obviously she doesn't love Naruto in a romantic way but of course she loves him as his mother. It's not weird for her to say, "This is the story of a hero I love", in reference to Naruto unless you make it weird.

Yeah but how she say it implyie romantic and not motherly love, isnt that obvious?

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 2 2013, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They're a lot similar but for some reason it doesn't sounds as kushina's voice at 100% to me... I dunno why... maybe due to her tone...

Hm, is there a Japanese one? Maybe we can find the answer there?

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 2 2013, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting, but I don't mind this at all. I didn't know you considered Sasuke getting paired a possibility. I'm undetermined because it's hard for me to say since well, I wouldn't say it's vague, but I feel like there's a plan. I don't know what is but I have to wait and see.

Well Karin is in love with him, and I don't see Kishimoto wasting an Uzumaki female, espacially when he made her in love with an Uchiha.
That is not a coincidence. SasuKarin is to me the greatest message of peace, Senju lineage paired with the Uchiha lineage.
We also know that she's hiding a secret if we pay attention what Suigetsu said : I know what you did a long time ago to Sasuke.
She always in love with in, she's somewhat Naruto's only real family member, she's hiding an important secret to Sasuke, she seems to love him more than we think (fell in love not because of his strenght and body, but cause of his smile)...
I think SasuKarin has a lot of chances. And Sasuke doesn't seem to be uninterested when he's not mad, he seems to care about her, we saw it against Killer Bee, he didn't listened to Juugo advice, he stayed to save Karin, only Karin...


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 2 2013, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm, is there a Japanese one? Maybe we can find the answer there?


I doubt it...

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