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[TouKen4Life3g]

@narusakur4life LMAO you been reading fairy tail too much. HAH  SIDENOTE: Happy should have died.

Hey, unless it gets explained, somehow, it's...yeah. Maybe Naruto should top it. Have someone do it. I think it's hard though because they sure made a life threatening event comic relief. That's always a good thing...

[Inferno180]

Its just in all reality, look at Hinata's arcs, chunin exams, itachi pursuit, pain, and ten tails revival. She has a minor moment in the war meeting naruto but in all truth, her most active role has been the chunin exams arc and that was over long ago, moment naruto busted neji her importance in part 1 ended. She didnt do much in the itachi pursuit save tag along and get into a small group with naruto. I mean narutos major role in itachi pursuit was getting the crow with suishis eye from itachi. Hinata, not much. Then she came out of the blue with her confession  and went away for another 50+ chapters. Then came 615 and again, not much.

 

To fans, 469 with naruto saying he hates people who lie to themselves, kishi seriously could have gone on the route many claimed with NS "dying" at this chapter. But with Naruto not answering Hinata, not showing his current feelings for Sakura, and going away for the confinement and some of the war arc, kishi didnt build on NH. He even had a golden opportuninty to do it, he could have had Naruto, Neji, and Hinata fight against Hisashi to give peace to both neji and his father. Nope, instead only a small meeting. He could have even made Naruto rethink his feelings for Sakura but instead the only negative love portryal is sakura on sasuke. Heck even seeing the dub episodes of recent weeks, Sakura saying she fell in love with sasuke but never really got to know who he really was, and this was in a filler by all accounts but it still makes sense. kishi just left a big empty space of well what do we do here? Its just not going to fit. Now with Madara as the second to end battle with sasuke as the final boss by all means, well obviously some big heartfelt moment should occur between naruto and sakura over the ordeal with sasuke and hinata having no contact with sasuke, who do people honestly suspect would talk to naruto about sasuke, Hinata? Its practically assured some highly mutual moment will come between naruto and sakura before or after the fight with sasuke.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Its just in all reality, look at Hinata's arcs, chunin exams, itachi pursuit, pain, and ten tails revival. She has a minor moment in the war meeting naruto but in all truth, her most active role has been the chunin exams arc and that was over long ago, moment naruto busted neji her importance in part 1 ended. She didnt do much in the itachi pursuit save tag along and get into a small group with naruto. I mean narutos major role in itachi pursuit was getting the crow with suishis eye from itachi. Hinata, not much. Then she came out of the blue with her confession  and went away for another 50+ chapters. Then came 615 and again, not much.

 

To fans, 469 with naruto saying he hates people who lie to themselves, kishi seriously could have gone on the route many claimed with NS "dying" at this chapter. But with Naruto not answering Hinata, not showing his current feelings for Sakura, and going away for the confinement and some of the war arc, kishi didnt build on NH. He even had a golden opportuninty to do it, he could have had Naruto, Neji, and Hinata fight against Hisashi to give peace to both neji and his father. Nope, instead only a small meeting. He could have even made Naruto rethink his feelings for Sakura but instead the only negative love portryal is sakura on sasuke. Heck even seeing the dub episodes of recent weeks, Sakura saying she fell in love with sasuke but never really got to know who he really was, and this was in a filler by all accounts but it still makes sense. kishi just left a big empty space of well what do we do here? Its just not going to fit. Now with Madara as the second to end battle with sasuke as the final boss by all means, well obviously some big heartfelt moment should occur between naruto and sakura over the ordeal with sasuke and hinata having no contact with sasuke, who do people honestly suspect would talk to naruto about sasuke, Hinata? Its practically assured some highly mutual moment will come between naruto and sakura before or after the fight with sasuke.

That was the decisive turning point of it.

I used to hate NS on part 1 due to the fact that she always kept her kindness moment for herself and always used to side with Sasuke and have him on her top priority list despite Naruto going though hell for her and goddammit on the anime when Sasuke insulted Naruto, Sakura used ot repeat it by also insulting Naruto.

 

Sasuke : Naruto you're an idiot!

Sakura : Yeah Naruto you're an idiot.

The worse and heartbreaking moment was when on her confession she wanted to leave Naruto behind despite the things he went though for her like on Gaara's fight and yadda yadda.

Anyway on part 2 instead of writing Naruto moving on and even 3 years away from home would certainly probably lessen his feelings for her, it still was there and instead we got Sakura's redemption towards Naruto, on part 1 Sasuke used to be everything for her and on part 2 it reversed and it become Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 December 2013 - 12:06 AM.

[narulsaku]

That was the decisive turning point of it.
I used to hate NS on part 1 due to the fact that she always kept her kindness moment for herself and always used to side with Sasuke and have him on her top priority list despite Naruto going though hell for her and goddammit on the anime when Sasuke insulted Naruto, Sakura used ot repeat it by also insulting Naruto.
 
Sasuke : Naruto you're an idiot!
Sakura : Yeah Naruto you're an idiot.

The worse and heartbreaking moment was when on her confession she wanted to leave Naruto behind despite the things he went though for her like on Gaara's fight and yadda yadda.
Anyway on part 2 instead of writing Naruto moving on and even 3 years away from home would certainly probably lessen his feelings for her, it still was there and instead we got Sakura's redemption towards Naruto, on part 1 Sasuke used to be everything for her and on part 2 it reversed and it become Naruto.

so what do u want to excatly? That the ns devlopment made by kishi on the begining of part 2 was nothing but a waste. I doubt it. And why would narutos feelings would have decreased after 3 years. It may actually increase.


And@darkerest and narusaku4life3g:i dont think madara should be redeemed. I mean there should be at least one pure dark villian in the game dont u think?for whom it is too late.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

so what do u want to excatly? That the ns devlopment made by kishi on the begining of part 2 was nothing but a waste. I doubt it. And why would narutos feelings would have decreased after 3 years. It may actually increase.


And@darkerest and narusaku4life3g:i dont think madara should be redeemed. I mean there should be at least one pure dark villian in the game dont u think?for whom it is too late.

I just pointed out that by logic it should not have been like that, that the decisive turnaround that it made NS to be literally bound to be canon is that instead of Naruto questioning his feelings after everything what happened, and the POAL where he saw how much Sakura loved Sasuke(to a point that he believes that she can only love him), the logical thing would be that Naruto being away from Sakura a bit would lessen his feelings(meet new people), so instead of developing the so called NH o NaruIno or Naru[insert any girl] to give drama, he development NS to a point that Naruto became what Sasuke was for Sakura on part 1, in other words Naruto became the most important person on her life and it's proved on the summit where she decided to return Naruto's feelings for Naruto's sake and drop her feelings for Sasuke.

 

 

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 December 2013 - 01:03 AM.

[Inferno180]

Really looking at the land of iron events with both what sakura tried to do to naruto and sasuke, it was designed to give her a harsh situation and see that there was more to what she initally thought about the problems both had. She had to see that Naruto had things to do besides the promise and that Sasuke had fallen so much. Sakura was given a very tough situation and its gone forward though I mean we see her development in 630 with her dont rely soley on naruto speech and still not trusting sasuke. People said she would only focus on sasuke when he returned, she isnt trusting him. Really ever since 631, anything related to naruto, sakura has been concerned about him. Anything sasuke related, she has taken it with caution and distrust. While its good what naruto and sasuke can accomplish together, her fear of them dying in their final fight can become a closer reality.

[StriderC]

Haven't drawn in awhile. Just thought I'd throw up a quick sketch I made today.

[Dalton.T.R]

Found this pic on Facebook. Thought it was pretty cute.

 

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[Superman333]

Naruto's love for Sakura-Chan would never decrease or lessen because he truly loves her. Always will.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Really looking at the land of iron events with both what sakura tried to do to naruto and sasuke, it was designed to give her a harsh situation and see that there was more to what she initally thought about the problems both had. She had to see that Naruto had things to do besides the promise and that Sasuke had fallen so much. Sakura was given a very tough situation and its gone forward though I mean we see her development in 630 with her dont rely soley on naruto speech and still not trusting sasuke. People said she would only focus on sasuke when he returned, she isnt trusting him. Really ever since 631, anything related to naruto, sakura has been concerned about him. Anything sasuke related, she has taken it with caution and distrust. While its good what naruto and sasuke can accomplish together, her fear of them dying in their final fight can become a closer reality.

In the events of the land of iron she didnt do anything for Sasuke, she wasnt trying to kill Sasuke for his sake, Sai might have said this but Sakura's flashbacks said ther opposite, she was trying to kill Sasuke because of Naruto, she even says this "i have to do it" but could not because of her feelings for Sasuke, she was doing all that for Naruto and Sai's speech was just to prevent Naruto from realizing that she was doing it all for him and that for her he's more important than Sasuke.

If Naruto realizes that for Sakura he's more important to Sasuke, NS becomes canon because Naruto would not back off his feelings anymore.

 

She cares for Sasuke aswell but she accepted that Sasuke might die because he's a nukenin, in fact she's concerned about Naruto dying rather than both of them.

 

 

Naruto's love for Sakura-Chan would never decrease or lessen because he truly loves her. Always will.

 

Yep that's why he will keep loving her, on part 1 his love for Sakura was forced much similar to SS, nothing justified Naruto's love or crush he had for Sakura, she kept shoving on his face untentionally that she loved Sasuke.

He had all the reasons of the world to move on but didnt kept like that to show how his love was truly genuine.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 December 2013 - 11:23 AM.

[Superman333]

In the events of the land of iron she didnt do anything for Sasuke, she wasnt trying to kill Sasuke for his sake, Sai might have said this but Sakura's flashbacks said ther opposite, she was trying to kill Sasuke because of Naruto, she even says this "i have to do it" but could not because of her feelings for Sasuke, she was doing all that for Naruto and Sai's speech was just to prevent Naruto from realizing that she was doing it all for him and that for her he's more important than Sasuke.
If Naruto realizes that for Sakura he's more important to Sasuke, NS becomes canon because Naruto would not back off his feelings anymore.
 
She cares for Sasuke aswell but she accepted that Sasuke might die because he's a nukenin, in fact she's concerned about Naruto dying rather than both of them.
 
 
Yep that's why he will keep loving her, on part 1 his love for Sakura was forced much similar to SS, nothing justified Naruto's love or crush he had for Sakura, she kept shoving on his face untentionally that she loved Sasuke.
He had all the reasons of the world to move on but didnt kept like that to show how his love was truly genuine.

I think his love for her was justified in chapter 3. He saw her and who she was and then he realized that he didn't just like her for being pretty but because they was so similar and naturally they started being on teams and then naturally as he spent more time with her and saw her determination etc he fell more in love with her . Thats my opinion .

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think his love for her was justified in chapter 3. He saw her and who she was and then he realized that he didn't just like her for being pretty but because they was so similar and naturally they started being on teams and then naturally as he spent more time with her and saw her determination etc he fell more in love with her . Thats my opinion .

 

 

It was a crush and then turn into love based on the bolded.

And yet people say she doesnt truly loves Sasuke.

It remained unjustificable on part 1 at least for me.

 

IMo it only justified on part 2 because she actually started supporting Naruto, she started sharing his burdens and etc...

and then her showing how she become strong and taking care of Naruto, i think for me that was when it justified his love for her.

 

Sakura showed to Naruto she was a great kunoichi(begining of shippuuden, Sasori and etc..) and later displayed affection for him and different moments like on the Gaara's part, hug, feeding and many other moments.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 December 2013 - 12:09 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Would Naruto having a 540 and 635 moment (not exact but same problem somewhat) cause you to think NS is done?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Would Naruto having a 540 and 635 moment (not exact but same problem somewhat) cause you to think NS is done?

Yes, but it's incosistent with what is written so far(which means it wont happen), i think if he got a 540 moment right on the ending of part 1 or even on the begining of part 1, NS would be done.

Cuz he would be facing doubts about his feelings and it would open the possibility of him moving on.

 

The inconsistence comes from the fact Sakura gives reasons for Naruto to love her on part 2, it ended up with Sakura having those kind of thinking when it comes to Sasuke because Naruto always supported her on part 1 and part 2 while she returned those affections to Naruto thoughout on part 2(sharing the jinchuuriki burden and her helping Naruto on the akatsuki problem also helping him to bring back Sasuke by getting info from Sasori), and Sasuke was absent when she needed support and did the inverse(tried to kill her and inflict pain on her).

 

But it didnt happened, because Kishi portraited Naruto's love as perfect no matter how forced it was on part 1.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 December 2013 - 01:02 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well it is a what if. Don't think behind the logic. That said well you at least answered it with a good point. Thankfully Naruto isn't like that or else we will be kissing ourselves good-bye.

[redragon88]

 

 

It was a crush and then turn into love based on the bolded.

And yet people say she doesnt truly loves Sasuke.

It remained unjustificable on part 1 at least for me.

 

IMo it only justified on part 2 because she actually started supporting Naruto, she started sharing his burdens and etc...

and then her showing how she become strong and taking care of Naruto, i think for me that was when it justified his love for her.

 

Sakura showed to Naruto she was a great kunoichi(begining of shippuuden, Sasori and etc..) and later displayed affection for him and different moments like on the Gaara's part, hug, feeding and many other moments.

 

I think you're developing a bias for Part 1 Sakura's bad attitude towards Naruto. She wasn't any worse than those other tsundere heroines out there.

 

And when it comes to her support and respect towards Naruto that began way back in the Zabuza arc, or even the bell test. Just check the NaruSaku buildup to refresh your memory. Some highlights are when Sakura has her "What's this feeling?" by seeing Naruto's confidence, when she nearly forsakes the chunin exams to protect Naruto's dream (which is mentioned in the Kizuna books under love), when she yelled at Sasuke that "Naruto isn't a coward", when she was encouraging Naruto left and right during his battle against Kiba, etc.

 

Her feelings for Naruto in Part 1 might not be as intense as they are in Part 2 but they lay the foundation for the development during the time-skip.

[Inferno180]

I seriously stare preplexed when some claims of SS being positive occur, I mean in the entireity of the manga, sasuke has not once been impacted to a major degree by sakura. I've read some claims of people that said part 1 was a romantic standoff for SS and the NS was left in the dust. They said this because they tried to apply the ninja must see underneath the underneath. This was really one of the stupidest claims ever, they said that Sasuke had thoughts on Sakura rather than Naruto. Theres a lot of times Sasuke focuses on Naruto but hardly any on sakura, espcially in part 2. If the whole claim that fanbase size mattered actually stood, the biggest irony is that sasusaku is the biggest pairing in fanbases yet look how kishi has treated it, its been given by sasuke running away, saying go away to both naruto and sakura, him trying to kill sakura, and sakura now not trusting him. Its gotten the worst treatment. Sakura loves Sasuke as far as we know but its been changed to the point of her not trusting him and as any pairing arguements have gone, they always say its got to be one who never changes and one who does and people all expect both naruto to change to hinata and sasuke to change to sakura on some random whim. Naruto is friends with Hinata, thats true but kishi didnt build on that to anything further. Sasuke for Sakura though, the fact he hasnt even apologized to sakura yet isnt good. Its just Sasuke's character, why does he need to do this? He has not needed to do it for so long its just an unnessessary addition to occur, I mean what Naruto pummels Sasuke and he falls in love with Sakura? That makes no sense espcially when people try to add hinata into the mix considering she doesnt even talk once to Sasuke. Anything with Sasuke literally has nothing to do with Hinata and they really just dont fit if you try to introduce HInata into the sasuke factors. Seriously if SS became canon and reduced the land of iron events to nothing as a rough moment in their relation, do people even just think how stupid that sounds?

 

True sakura wont go loving naruto but she has been focused a lot for his wellbeing espcially during this past arc this year. I mean if anything theres just that aspect of her maturing. The Kushina foreshadow a very very very big inicator of a final pairing and so far it looks yellow and pink colored. I just dont know why people expect naruto to change, sakura to never change, or sasuke become all warm and fuzzy. This just makes no sense. I bet the final nail in the coffen for both NH and SS will be if Naruto manages to bring up the forehead compliment, it would definatly be a shocker and if sakura reacts positively or open to naruto then it would really sting SS and NH fans knowing sakura changed and naruto had not. Besides kishi has shown us why naruto does what he does for sakura and sakura being in her situation between her old love for sasuke and what she may feel for naruto, she has given back to naruto in a few ways and this is perfectly able to expand on. This past year for the first time she has been concerned with naruto over sasuke when sasuke was present. In all the time she saw sasuke, she was cautious of what he did, worked with him and naruto, then after listening to sai we find out she isnt trusting him. What happens next will occur espcially during the final battle between naruto and sasuke. If theres one reason I like NS, its that naruto always manages to make her smile, and i just hope we see this in the future.

[Canadian_DJ]

 
 
I assure you that there is much more NH fan that NS fan, well at least on the web. NH and Hinata's popularity seems to be high everywhere. When you go on a french forums, there are like 10 NH fan for 2 or 3 NS fans and it's most of the time NH/SS fans.  

I woulsnt say that, dont let them fool you, the sakura and narusaku fans are alot in the west as well. In japan,and asia, hands down sakura is the top female. Hinata? Never seen her hyped tbh. Naruhina? Not popular.

[Hanabi]

I woulsnt say that, dont let them fool you, the sakura and narusaku fans are alot in the west as well. In japan,and asia, hands down sakura is the top female. Hinata? Never seen her hyped tbh. Naruhina? Not popular.

but the anime studio.. shueisha.. :/

[TouKen4Life3g]

You can like the character, but you don't need to like the pairing as well. You can share, but at times, one has more priority over another. One would be "because of that one character" and the other one is either "because we like it so much" or "because we see it as the most obvious one" or even both. It's been like that for a while and continues today.