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#11561 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 1 2013, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It's filler, but this all make sense why he was angry about Sakura giving up so easly about Sasuke :

Naruto : In the same way Sakura tries so hard to win Sasuke's over, I'm going to do my best to win Sakura over.

What this have to do with my statement.
This have nothing to do.
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It's clearly obvious here he didnt liked it because the reasons she pointed out (status).

And Naruto is not trying hard to win her over.
He will always love her and he didnt give up on this love but after her hugs on Sasuke he decided to not push it on her.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 1 2013, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://narutoxsakura...e-235-267037569
It's filler, but this all make sense why he was angry about Sakura giving up so easly about Sasuke :

Naruto : In the same way Sakura tries so hard to win Sasuke's over, I'm going to do my best to win Sakura over.


My personal favourite is: "For now anyway, I will just keep watching over her"
Naruto the Guardian Angel.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:35 PM

I think the fact that Naruto got mad is because if you remember, he was really happy that him and Sakura are working together to get Sasuke. But what happens if you lose that support. He felt hurt because not only he lost support but being told to quit. But Naruto knows something is not right because Naruto knows Sakura well that she too cares for Sasuke. He don't want her to give up like that and just suddenly shift focus without completing it. That's like Naruto doing it for himself: I couldn't get Sakura, so I went for Hinata. To me, I'm happy that this conflict happen because it brought more realism into their relationship. Not to mention it brought controversy. It's like in movies, you see a couple having that big conflict issue (betrayal, lie, etc.), and then, they rise above it and become together either "it's about time" or "no amount can destroy their love".

The thing about Sakura is that the love is kept inside of her and there's no one to tell her to wake up and give up. It's true that we all decide on what do we feel about one person, but sometimes, we need someone, intentional or not, to tell us if it's good to keep going or give up. Ino had her dad to rethink what's important and what's good. Sakura got none. Naruto can do it, but not giving up, rather finding out that he's the one she has fallen in love. Ask yourself this: when is the last time that Naruto said that comfort her and only her? Remember, the whole "Team 7 smiling once again" is not just her but the team. When you really think about it, the last time is PoaL speech. That's not a bad thing because they still talk to each other and her relationship with him keeps building up, but the problem now is that she doesn't know what is the status. We all know that she has something more and know that she feels happy when he's around. So the answer remains to be unfold.

In other words, Naruto and Sakura will talk to each other again and I believe it will trigger her to realize that she's in love with him. It's the old calm before storm and that storm is Sasuke.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 1 2013, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My personal favourite is: "For now anyway, I will just keep watching over her"
Naruto the Guardian Angel.


The whole episode is beyond beautiful! The way Naruto talked about Sakura, the obvious NaruSaku/JiraTsu parallel, the way he said that nothing would make him more happy if one day she chooses him .. even something as simple like the sunset was all yellow and pink when Jiraiya was talking about his love for Tsunade. ah this episode is really touching wub.gif

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 1 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the fact that Naruto got mad is because if you remember, he was really happy that him and Sakura are working together to get Sasuke. But what happens if you lose that support. He felt hurt because not only he lost support but being told to quit. But Naruto knows something is not right because Naruto knows Sakura well that she too cares for Sasuke. He don't want her to give up like that and just suddenly shift focus without completing it. That's like Naruto doing it for himself: I couldn't get Sakura, so I went for Hinata. To me, I'm happy that this conflict happen because it brought more realism into their relationship. Not to mention it brought controversy. It's like in movies, you see a couple having that big conflict issue (betrayal, lie, etc.), and then, they rise above it and become together either "it's about time" or "no amount can destroy their love".

The thing about Sakura is that the love is kept inside of her and there's no one to tell her to wake up and give up. It's true that we all decide on what do we feel about one person, but sometimes, we need someone, intentional or not, to tell us if it's good to keep going or give up. Ino had her dad to rethink what's important and what's good. Sakura got none. Naruto can do it, but not giving up, rather finding out that he's the one she has fallen in love. Ask yourself this: when is the last time that Naruto said that comfort her and only her? Remember, the whole "Team 7 smiling once again" is not just her but the team. When you really think about it, the last time is PoaL speech. That's not a bad thing because they still talk to each other and her relationship with him keeps building up, but the problem now is that she doesn't know what is the status. We all know that she has something more and know that she feels happy when he's around. So the answer remains to be unfold.

In other words, Naruto and Sakura will talk to each other again and I believe it will trigger her to realize that she's in love with him. It's the old calm before storm and that storm is Sasuke.



agreed. I just hope that the talk isnt rushed or even delayed by some pointless NH moments.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 1 2013, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the fact that Naruto got mad is because if you remember, he was really happy that him and Sakura are working together to get Sasuke. But what happens if you lose that support. He felt hurt because not only he lost support but being told to quit. But Naruto knows something is not right because Naruto knows Sakura well that she too cares for Sasuke. He don't want her to give up like that and just suddenly shift focus without completing it. That's like Naruto doing it for himself: I couldn't get Sakura, so I went for Hinata. To me, I'm happy that this conflict happen because it brought more realism into their relationship. Not to mention it brought controversy. It's like in movies, you see a couple having that big conflict issue (betrayal, lie, etc.), and then, they rise above it and become together either "it's about time" or "no amount can destroy their love".

The thing about Sakura is that the love is kept inside of her and there's no one to tell her to wake up and give up. It's true that we all decide on what do we feel about one person, but sometimes, we need someone, intentional or not, to tell us if it's good to keep going or give up. Ino had her dad to rethink what's important and what's good. Sakura got none. Naruto can do it, but not giving up, rather finding out that he's the one she has fallen in love. Ask yourself this: when is the last time that Naruto said that comfort her and only her? Remember, the whole "Team 7 smiling once again" is not just her but the team. When you really think about it, the last time is PoaL speech. That's not a bad thing because they still talk to each other and her relationship with him keeps building up, but the problem now is that she doesn't know what is the status. We all know that she has something more and know that she feels happy when he's around. So the answer remains to be unfold.

In other words, Naruto and Sakura will talk to each other again and I believe it will trigger her to realize that she's in love with him. It's the old calm before storm and that storm is Sasuke.

Naruto wanst right on that scene, he could got angry and whatever but he failed to see that she was doing that for him, he see that she lied to him but he didnt see why she did that, he thought she did that just for Naruto to quit.
But wanst the real motive that she did that, Naruto was struck with a different mental image than the situation demanded, it required to Gaara and Sai to talk to him and explain that the situation is bad and that simply bringing Sasuke back to the village does not resolve the whole situation.
Sasuke was truly evil and his objectives were to destroy the village and this including killing off his friends as well which is why Shikamaru provoked Naruto asking if he would change sides because of Sasuke.
Both Naruto and Sakura are pure and innocent, Sakura thought Sasuke wasnt capable of killing her and would take advantage of this to kill him but she was wrong and Naruto as well that thought he wanst capable of killing Sakura, and this behavior Shikamaru noticed it and made that question.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 March 2013 - 03:45 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 1 2013, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same thing can be said about naruto, even though sasuke tried to kill him he still considers him as his brother and will still do anything to bring him back. both sakura and naruto should've accepted the fact that he's a criminal but the problem is that whenever sakura tries to give up on sasuke, naruto restores her hope of bringing him back.
At the hospital the first time and later at the kage summit.


Not really. If you know Naruto's character then it makes sense that Naruto will never let go of Sasuke. His nindo is what separates him from others.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 1 2013, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
agreed. I just hope that the talk isnt rushed or even delayed by some pointless NH moments.

More like delayed by side characters. That's why the big showdown keeps slowing down because of the need of shining moment. It's nice and all, but now, it seems like it's one of those moment where you should read it after a month of worth. Now that they finally in the bigger stage, it just happened to stop there and now, here we are. I don't think the talk will be rushed. When it comes to main characters, he takes his time. Again, I believe he knows the main plot point, but don't know how to reach there, so all those moments are just fill-in. Not trying to say that they're filler, but he just thought of doing something extra for the fans.

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 1 2013, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto wanst right on that scene, he could got angry and whatever but he failed to see that she was doing that for him, he see that she lied to him but he didnt see why she did that, he thought she did that just for Naruto to quit.
But wanst the real motive that she did that, Naruto was struck with a different mental image than the situation demanded, it required to Gaara and Sai to talk to him and explain that the situation is bad and that simply bringing Sasuke back to the village does not resolve the whole situation.
Sasuke was truly evil and his objectives were to destroy the village and this including killing off his friends as well which is why Shikamaru provoked Naruto asking if he would change sides because of Sasuke.
Both Naruto and Sakura are pure and innocent, Sakura thought Sasuke wasnt capable of killing her and would take advantage of this to kill him but she was wrong and Naruto as well that thought he wanst capable of killing Sakura, and this behavior Shikamaru noticed it and made that question.

Well, I never said he is right. But yeah, I see what you mean. Naruto and Sakura are pure and innocent. The fact that I believe that they never kill someone (correct me please) and/or they care deeply is one of the many reasons why I love this pairing. I always felt like that Sakura has always been a pure and innocent girl and maybe Naruto always know that, but it's that fake persona she has put up when confronting Sasuke. It's like you have to break it to see the true beauty. I don't remember if this was on manga, but I always felt that way since her trip in the first arc, where she is innocently gave something to the helpless kid. It's like a hint of her true nature, not hate this, hate that or whatever.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 1 2013, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
More like delayed by side characters. That's why the big showdown keeps slowing down because of the need of shining moment. It's nice and all, but now, it seems like it's one of those moment where you should read it after a month of worth. Now that they finally in the bigger stage, it just happened to stop there and now, here we are. I don't think the talk will be rushed. When it comes to main characters, he takes his time. Again, I believe he knows the main plot point, but don't know how to reach there, so all those moments are just fill-in. Not trying to say that they're filler, but he just thought of doing something extra for the fans.


Well, I never said he is right. But yeah, I see what you mean. Naruto and Sakura are pure and innocent. The fact that I believe that they never kill someone (correct me please) and/or they care deeply is one of the many reasons why I love this pairing. I always felt like that Sakura has always been a pure and innocent girl and maybe Naruto always know that, but it's that fake persona she has put up when confronting Sasuke. It's like you have to break it to see the true beauty. I don't remember if this was on manga, but I always felt that way since her trip in the first arc, where she is innocently gave something to the helpless kid. It's like a hint of her true nature, not hate this, hate that or whatever.

They never kill.
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Zetsus does not count.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 1 2013, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They never kill.
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Zetsus does not count.

Yup. Not even Pain's corpse troops. Funny. It's like two One Piece characters in the wrong world. Then again, they would look funky. Note: I do like their character arts, so no bashing please. Sasuke did kill people, didn't he?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 1 2013, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup. Not even Pain's corpse troops. Funny. It's like two One Piece characters in the wrong world. Then again, they would look funky. Note: I do like their character arts, so no bashing please. Sasuke did kill people, didn't he?

He did, samurais, ninjas from kumo and even the guy(Jay) who were stalking them, danzou and etc..

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:33 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 1 2013, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto wanst right on that scene, he could got angry and whatever but he failed to see that she was doing that for him, he see that she lied to him but he didnt see why she did that, he thought she did that just for Naruto to quit.
But wanst the real motive that she did that, Naruto was struck with a different mental image than the situation demanded, it required to Gaara and Sai to talk to him and explain that the situation is bad and that simply bringing Sasuke back to the village does not resolve the whole situation.
Sasuke was truly evil and his objectives were to destroy the village and this including killing off his friends as well which is why Shikamaru provoked Naruto asking if he would change sides because of Sasuke.
Both Naruto and Sakura are pure and innocent, Sakura thought Sasuke wasnt capable of killing her and would take advantage of this to kill him but she was wrong and Naruto as well that thought he wanst capable of killing Sakura, and this behavior Shikamaru noticed it and made that question.


Wait what?

Sasuke's intentions WERE???? to destroy the village?? wot.gif

They still are his intentions... right? headscratch.gif

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 1 2013, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He did, samurais, ninjas from kumo and even the guy(Jay) who were stalking them, danzou and etc..

Oh yeah, that's true. I always felt Danzou was a suicide, but Sasuke told the world that he killed him, so now it must be true.

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 1 2013, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait what?

Sasuke's intentions WERE???? to destroy the village?? wot.gif

They still are his intentions... right? headscratch.gif

It is. We are waiting for the flashback to end to see if he still deciding to do evil or become good. I still believe he will still be evil. Not to say he will go crazy, but he will go against Naruto's way of peace, which is everyone's ideas. Don't forget, he won't destroy Konoha until he kills Naruto.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 1 2013, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait what?

Sasuke's intentions WERE???? to destroy the village?? wot.gif

They still are his intentions... right? headscratch.gif

Sorry i'm not too good with english.
But i believe he wants to destroy the village this is not going to change with the kages, i only believe he's not going to put it like his top priority like Madara.
I do believe he will want to change the world but with Power and will hate Naruto's beliefs.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

I think someone brought up a good point, Sakura was willing to toss her love for sasuke aside for Naruto's well being.

Also that filler episode is beast, sums up a lot, I feel like they had to have gotten Kishi permission for something like that

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 1 2013, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah, that's true. I always felt Danzou was a suicide, but Sasuke told the world that he killed him, so now it must be true.


It is. We are waiting for the flashback to end to see if he still deciding to do evil or become good. I still believe he will still be evil. Not to say he will go crazy, but he will go against Naruto's way of peace, which is everyone's ideas. Don't forget, he won't destroy Konoha until he kills Naruto.


Oh yeah, very true happy.gif

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Also that filler episode is beast, sums up a lot, I feel like they had to have gotten Kishi permission for something like that


Yeah, i wonder if they did get Kishi's permission for that. headscratch.gif

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 1 2013, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, i wonder if they did get Kishi's permission for that. headscratch.gif

why they would get kishi's permission for that?
It's filler.
And most importantly they did bad for other characters like Lee who got beat up by a kangaroo.
And even some Hinata fillersodes like her using healing jutsu.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 1 2013, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why they would get kishi's permission for that?
It's filler.
And most importantly they did bad for other characters like Lee who got beat up by a kangaroo.
And even some Hinata fillersodes like her using healing jutsu.



Hey now! don't be mocking Kangaroo's man!...those guys are strong! ( I can't deicide if I'm being Sarcastic here or not...lol... a_shifty.gif )

But really, I hear their kicks are really something! sweatdrop.gif

Hinata's little moment of healing in a filler....blagh...I disliked that too. facepalm.png

At least it only lasted 3 sec tops. unsure.gif

Anyway, it doesn't matter, Hinata can't really heal anyone, that was just...idk...Filler logic. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 1 2013, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, i wonder if they did get Kishi's permission for that. headscratch.gif

I don't think so. The only thing I do believe they said is that they are doing as much as close to the story. In other words, not making a character feels different. Sure, the powers they have is made up, but the characteristic is the same as much as they can.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE (KeikoxYusuke @ Mar 1 2013, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey now! don't be mocking Kangaroo's man!...those guys are strong! ( I can't deicide if I'm being Sarcastic here or not...lol... a_shifty.gif )

But really, I hear their kicks are really something! sweatdrop.gif

Hinata's little moment of healing in a filler....blagh...I disliked that too. facepalm.png

At least it only lasted 3 sec tops. unsure.gif

Anyway, it doesn't matter, Hinata can't really heal anyone, that was just...idk...Filler logic. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Well, it's the magic of fillers XD

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