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Posted 25 November 2013 - 04:51 PM

It's in the manga section now.

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 07:40 PM

Naruto general shouldn't really consist of manga spoilers, I guess that's why the thread moved.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:07 PM

Would you say the situation would have much harder if Sasuke did in fact loves Sakura and shown a lot since part 1 alas making love triangle actual love triangle?

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:17 PM

Would you say the situation would have much harder if Sasuke did in fact loves Sakura and shown a lot since part 1 alas making love triangle actual love triangle?

 

Definitely. The situation would have been much more complicated if Sasuke did in fact, at least at one time, have feelings for Sakura, and it certainly would have left us with a much less clear pairing dynamic as well. If the development with Naruto and Sakura were still present and Sakura was experiencing the same current doubts and such, my leaning would still be for NaruSaku, but the whole thing would probably be far messier than it is now, however, it would give Sakura more of a legitimate justification for her lingering feelings.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:40 PM

 
Definitely. The situation would have been much more complicated if Sasuke did in fact, at least at one time, have feelings for Sakura, and it certainly would have left us with a much less clear pairing dynamic as well. If the development with Naruto and Sakura were still present and Sakura was experiencing the same current doubts and such, my leaning would still be for NaruSaku, but the whole thing would probably be far messier than it is now, however, it would give Sakura more of a legitimate justification for her lingering feelings.

Yeah, that would have been messy.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 25 November 2013 - 08:41 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:52 PM

Would you say the situation would have much harder if Sasuke did in fact loves Sakura and shown a lot since part 1 alas making love triangle actual love triangle?

Then it still would not be the love triangle.

 

Often a love triangle would have a certain competition, what kind of competition would have if Sasuke loved Sakura?

We would have requinted love already and there would no other purpose for Naruto to move on, the story would be completely different and moments would have a different outcome.

 

In fact in order to make a true love triangle like you suggest, we would need for Sakura to have actually no love interest for Sasuke, while the boys Naruto and Sasuke would love her.

On RTN we have a love triangle where Sakura and Hinata fight over for Menma, and on the actual store we had Sakura and Ino on Sasuke during part 1.

 

 

 

Definitely. The situation would have been much more complicated if Sasuke did in fact, at least at one time, have feelings for Sakura, and it certainly would have left us with a much less clear pairing dynamic as well. If the development with Naruto and Sakura were still present and Sakura was experiencing the same current doubts and such, my leaning would still be for NaruSaku, but the whole thing would probably be far messier than it is now, however, it would give Sakura more of a legitimate justification for her lingering feelings.

 

Yep, it would be messy because would Sasuke be capable of leaving her behind or even trying to kill her like on the summit if he had feelings for her?

It would change the dinamics of the story and i doubt Sakura would be capable of having a logical approach when it comes to love Naruto.

Since the whole moral is that Sakura should not love a guy based on "coolness", we have Sasuke thoughout the story doing totally the opposite of what Naruto does to her.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:58 PM

^Point taken.

Still, the idea of NS being canon with that in mind would make it just incredibly hard if not impossible to work. I don't know what the modern love triangle does now such as Twilight (shivers), Hunger Games, etc. I'm getting old. Lol. But seriously, things can work very much differently, so who knows.

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:21 PM

Would you say the situation would have much harder if Sasuke did in fact loves Sakura and shown a lot since part 1 alas making love triangle actual love triangle?

No.

 

Sakura will move on from Sasuke whether he ever liked her or not. Sakura's decision =/= Sasuke's feelings.

At the end of the day, it turns out Sasuke's feelings for Sakura have little effect in the story. Which is why Kishi made him neutral in the love triangle.


Edited by sushi., 25 November 2013 - 09:21 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:31 PM

No.

 

Sakura will move on from Sasuke whether he ever liked her or not. Sakura's decision =/= Sasuke's feelings.

At the end of the day, it turns out Sasuke's feelings for Sakura have little effect in the story. Which is why Kishi made him neutral in the love triangle.

The problem is that you're taking in account that if Sasuke had feelings for Sakura, it wont had any kind of change on his decisions and/or scenes, i mean if Sasuke had feelings for Sakura, would he treat her coldly like on part 1? or even would he be capable of trying to kill her on the summit? or even better would he just replied with "you're annoying" on her confession despite being just a form of acknowledgement?

 

NaruSaku4life3g didnt took in account that if Sasuke had feelings for Sakura, much of the moments that are used as some form of proof to downgrade SS would not happen, Sasuke would just be a nukenin but it alone wont be the reason for her to drop her feelings.

 

It's similar to NaruHina, what reasons Naruto has to drop his feelings for Sakura? not much aside for "Sakura will never drop her feelings for Sasuke". which alone is a laughable argument.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:39 PM

The problem is that you're taking in account that if Sasuke had feelings for Sakura, it wont had any kind of change on his decisions and/or scenes, i mean if Sasuke had feelings for Sakura, would he treat her coldly like on part 1? or even would he be capable of trying to kill her on the summit? or even better would he just replied with "you're annoying" on her confession despite being just a form of acknowledgement?

 

NaruSaku4life3g didnt took in account that if Sasuke had feelings for Sakura, much of the moments that are used as some form of proof to downgrade SS would not happen, Sasuke would just be a nukenin but it alone wont be the reason for her to drop her feelings.

 

It's similar to NaruHina, what reasons Naruto has to drop his feelings for Sakura? not much aside for "Sakura will never drop her feelings for Sasuke". which alone is a laughable argument.

Look, I just said Sasuke's feelings for Sakura to avoid confusion, as I do not mean Sasuke's feelings in general. :headscratch:

 

I don't think Sakura's neverending love for Sasuke is a laughable argument, I just think it's funny that we can throw it back with Naru>Saku too.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 10:05 PM

Look, I just said Sasuke's feelings for Sakura to avoid confusion, as I do not mean Sasuke's feelings in general. :headscratch:

 

I don't think Sakura's neverending love for Sasuke is a laughable argument, I just think it's funny that we can throw it back with Naru>Saku too.

Yep but what i implied is that, Sasuke's feelings for Sakura is an also a great deciding factor for Sakura to move on, Sasuke never returned her affections for him, she's unable to reach him, he hasnt done anything of positive to her, other than just being a member of team 7.


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#11472 Yami_no_Princess

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:33 PM

Even if Sasuke did have feelings for Sakura, it's difficult to say whether or not he would act on them. He views such things as a burden and a detriment to his goals. Getting Sasuke to acknowledge and accept platonic bonds is going to be a challenge in and of itself, but getting him to acknowledge and accept romantic feelings? Near impossible.



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:55 PM

Even if Sasuke did have feelings for Sakura, it's difficult to say whether or not he would act on them. He views such things as a burden and a detriment to his goals. Getting Sasuke to acknowledge and accept platonic bonds is going to be a challenge in and of itself, but getting him to acknowledge and accept romantic feelings? Near impossible.

Half truth, i mean on your hipothetic scenario, if we count like you suggest, Sasuke's feelings for Sakura would be on the same level as his bond with Naruto, which means that his goal would have to kill both Naruto and Sakura instead of just Naruto.

Which is more one of the proofs that Sasuke doesnt have feelings for Sakura.

Currently his bond with Naruto is what holds his connection with the village, team 7 and k11, which is why he wants to kill Naruto then he erases the past and he will be able to continue his goals.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:16 PM

Half truth, i mean on your hipothetic scenario, if we count like you suggest, Sasuke's feelings for Sakura would be on the same level as his bond with Naruto, which means that his goal would have to kill both Naruto and Sakura instead of just Naruto.
Which is more one of the proofs that Sasuke doesnt have feelings for Sakura.
Currently his bond with Naruto is what holds his connection with the village, team 7 and k11, which is why he wants to kill Naruto then he erases the past and he will be able to continue his goals.

ok i am just a bit confused. what goal are u talking about exactly?

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:36 PM

ok i am just a bit confused. what goal are u talking about exactly?

Sasuke's goal is not revealed, but his next step is to erase the past, and by doing it he wants to kill Naruto who's the guy who he has a bond with and this bond with Naruto is what holds his connection with everyone else on the village.

It was a hipothetic scenario that if he had feelings for Sakura, his bond with Sakura would not be severed on her confession then he would need to kill Naruto and Sakura in order to erase the past.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 11:34 PM

i wonder if tsunade and mito's seal are the same. madara said he never heard of byakugo, yet he remembers mito when kabuto introduced him to naruto.

 

maybe one is yin and mito's is yang.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:14 AM

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i wonder if tsunade and mito's seal are the same. madara said he never heard of byakugo, yet he remembers mito when kabuto introduced him to naruto.

 

maybe one is yin and mito's is yang.

I think every user has a different use for their byakugo. Mito probably used her for sealing demons and tailed beast. Tsunade uses hers for healing and being partially immortal. Sakura uses hers for advance healing but I doubt she can perform mitotic regeneration so I will assume she will use hers for something different. 

 

side note: Mitotic Regeneration

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:20 AM

i wonder if tsunade and mito's seal are the same. madara said he never heard of byakugo, yet he remembers mito when kabuto introduced him to naruto.

 

maybe one is yin and mito's is yang.

Being honest i think it's the same but kishi has done errors on the story too, he said that Mito sealed the kyuubi on her during the battle and on the flashbacks of the fight between Hashirama and Madara, she was nowhere to be seen.

Her seal is colored as "dark" so it's either purple, red or any dark colour, it cant be different from Tsunade's and i guess it's probably purple, i believe that Madara probably never saw the seal in action.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:28 AM

Maybe it wasn't a seal at all, maybe it was just an aesthetic thing.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:51 AM

Sasuke's goal is not revealed, but his next step is to erase the past, and by doing it he wants to kill Naruto who's the guy who he has a bond with and this bond with Naruto is what holds his connection with everyone else on the village.
It was a hipothetic scenario that if he had feelings for Sakura, his bond with Sakura would not be severed on her confession then he would need to kill Naruto and Sakura in order to erase the past.

there we go again. Sasuke hasnt yet mentioned since danzo fight that he would kill him. Whst if he changed his mind??

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