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Posted 22 November 2013 - 04:41 AM

Naruto doesn't have to sense darkness to know Sasuke has evil intentions. Sasuke IS evil and all his intentions are for HIS benefit.

i kinda disagree a little...i think that if sasuke did not experienced all the misfortunes about his clan, i think he would be raised up well...just an opinion... :)



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:25 AM

hey hey. i dont believe u actually want naruto to die in sasukes hand? whats ur logic behind this ??????? if naruto dies it would definitly spoil all the moral of the story. and u r talking about rinne tensei. who ll perform that if naruto dies. i find this very very....wired theory

Well being honest Sasuke wants indeed to kill Naruto, and Obito has the rinne tensei, and being honest it's better to Obito ressurrect Naruto than every single ninja that died on the battlefield, and it's one of the scenarios that can happen.

About the logic, srsly what's the logic on Madara fighting Hashirama and giving up his plan, Sasuke killing Naruto inst what Sasuke wants?
There's nothing to explain about the logic behind Sasuke killing Naruto, he wants to kill Naruto.

 

The moral of the story is already spoiled since the chapter 3 of the manga, i'm very surprised that you didnt know about it.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:13 PM

Being honest Sasuke tried to kill him countless of times and looks like he forgive him, Sakura didnt obviously.
Naruto is different and his "NaruSasu" is forced, if we would apply real logic Naruto should hate him because of the things he have done.

Yeah but its different ... Naruto was trying to bring him back and Sasuke was evil at the time .. and Naruto himself said he expects to die. But I personally think right now during the war ... Naruto actually thinks Sasuke is on their side so therefore if Sasuke attempts to kill him now I think it would be a different reaction.
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:20 PM

Yeah but its different ... Naruto was trying to bring him back and Sasuke was evil at the time .. and Naruto himself said he expects to die. But I personally think right now during the war ... Naruto actually thinks Sasuke is on their side so therefore if Sasuke attempts to kill him now I think it would be a different reaction.

Sasuke is still evil the difference is that on that time he didnt had his path clear, now he knows the truth and made his decision that is to kill Naruto/erasing his past.

 

What kind of reaction, Naruto is to blame if he's naive, Sasuke was never at his side when he came back, the audience knows he's just there because of Itachi, and even Sakura and Naruto's friends knows that Sasuke is going to do something bad soon, he's there fighting on the war for his own benefit, and we know that due to what he was thinking on a certain chapter, he wants to kill Naruto to erase his past.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:21 PM

Sasuke is still evil the difference is that on that time he didnt had his path clear, now he knows the truth and made his decision that is to kill Naruto/erasing his past.
 
What kind of reaction, Naruto is to blame if he's naive, Sasuke was never at his side when he came back, the audience knows he's just there because of Itachi, and even Sakura and Naruto's friends knows that Sasuke is going to do something bad soon, he's there fighting on the war for his own benefit, and we know that due to what he was thinking on a certain chapter, he wants to kill Naruto to erase his past.


I know Sasuke is evil. That was a typing error on my part. I know Sasuke is evil even now. That was a given as Sasuke tried to kill Naruto even back in P1. But what im saying is that Naruto at that time was expecting something like yhat out of him.

Yes Naruto is naive. But Naruto doesn't expect for Sasuke to attack him. Everybody else knows of his intentions and I agree Naruto Is acting oblivious to it. But Naruto isn't expecting for Sasuke to kill him. Naruto would have forgavehim if Sasuke did it before the war but Naruto trusts him and fkt Sasuke to kill him I think not even Naruto wouldbe able to just forgive him so easy. But thata my opinion.
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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:31 PM

I know Sasuke is evil. That was a typing error on my part. I know Sasuke is evil even now. That was a given as Sasuke tried to kill Naruto even back in P1. But what im saying is that Naruto at that time was expecting something like yhat out of him.

Yes Naruto is naive. But Naruto doesn't expect for Sasuke to attack him. Everybody else knows of his intentions and I agree Naruto Is acting oblivious to it. But Naruto isn't expecting for Sasuke to kill him. Naruto would have forgavehim if Sasuke did it before the war but Naruto trusts him and fkt Sasuke to kill him I think not even Naruto wouldbe able to just forgive him so easy. But thata my opinion.

yeah but i know this too, what i said is that NaruSasu is so forced that overrides logic, logically he should not trust Sasuke after he even made  promise that he would be his first victim and all of sudden he's like that, Sasuke attacked Kumogakure and captured it's jinchuuriki and the first thing he does is to go for the Raikage and ask for Sasuke to be forgiven, when even Naruto himself didnt forgive Pain for what he has done to the village(probably after he used the Edo Rinne Tensei).

But it's just like i say NaruSasu rapes logic.

 

But i agree with you, he should not forgive him so easily but you know it's NaruSasu, you cant argue just accept this abomination.

 

Being honest it opens so many possibilites like Orochimaru turning the hokages against the alliance and Naruto having the chance to prove he has surpassed all of them which is one of his dream to be acknowledged as the strongest ever.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 04:21 PM

I think Sasuke is too complex to be evil, tbh. :ermm: He's too colourful.

 

I see evil as the darkness itself. Evil is black, no room for love or greytoned characters.

Like Sauron or Voldemort, but Orochimaru would be the closest in this manga.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 04:55 PM

Not to spread but I am beginning to think Sony fans is bad/loud as Hinata/NH fans. Of course, not all of them but if there's anything I learned last night, it's that.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 05:04 PM

Not to spread but I am beginning to think Sony fans is bad/loud as Hinata/NH fans. Of course, not all of them but if there's anything I learned last night, it's that.

Explain further.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:01 PM

I think Sasuke is too complex to be evil, tbh. :ermm: He's too colourful.

 

I see evil as the darkness itself. Evil is black, no room for love or greytoned characters.

Like Sauron or Voldemort, but Orochimaru would be the closest in this manga.

He's gray but he can be as evil like on the summit.

Orochimaru is evil because the things he has done but ended up with the whole " i could not be hokage mimimi".

 

 

 

Not to spread but I am beginning to think Sony fans is bad/loud as Hinata/NH fans. Of course, not all of them but if there's anything I learned last night, it's that.

 

Both are retarded, just trying to justify their purchase i stick with PS4 because of the better performance on multiplatform games and being more cheap both exclusives at launch suck.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:15 PM

Explain further.
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Well, the funny thing I have seen people selling/refunding ps4 in the same day. I was shocked. Anyway, my first realization:

Metal Gear Solid exclusive content for PS4:

Sony fans: Oh that's cool. Not the biggest surprise but it's good. Exclusive, baby

Xbox fans: Oh lucky. I'm staying with Xbox but damn you for that content.

Metal Gear Solid exclusive content for Xbox:

Sony fans: kitten you, Kojima! You grew up with playstation. You doing this is a middle finger to gamers.

Xbox fans: I haven't seen one, sorry.

In amazon, there are false reports on Xbox defected while playstation are official. Really low. Granted xbox or any launch consoles will get a faulty one, but this is low. I love my ps4 but man, you are NH fans of gaming. I'm sorry.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:48 PM

Well, the funny thing I have seen people selling/refunding ps4 in the same day. I was shocked. Anyway, my first realization:

Metal Gear Solid exclusive content for PS4:

Sony fans: Oh that's cool. Not the biggest surprise but it's good. Exclusive, baby

Xbox fans: Oh lucky. I'm staying with Xbox but damn you for that content.

Metal Gear Solid exclusive content for Xbox:

Sony fans: kitten you, Kojima! You grew up with playstation. You doing this is a middle finger to gamers.

Xbox fans: I haven't seen one, sorry.

In amazon, there are false reports on Xbox defected while playstation are official. Really low. Granted xbox or any launch consoles will get a faulty one, but this is low. I love my ps4 but man, you are NH fans of gaming. I'm sorry.

Dude, you're being off topic.

Xbox one also facked broken PS4 records and i dont care, you're just proving to me that you do care about what the other people purchase.

If you get bothered by people saying otherwise or bashing the system you're going to buy, doesnt make sense because they wont buy it anyway, if they get a broken system they can get a refund and etc...

This whole fanboism is ridiculous, and this whole comparing to pairing shipping is worse.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

It is ridiculous. Oh no, no doubt I am not effected by anyone in any shape or form. I'm only describing my experience from last night. Not one thing change my mind on my ps4 or anything in general. It's just it's 631 of gaming: things got ugly. That's what I'm trying to say. Look, I couldn't care less if you're only for one console. My point was to explain my story. That's it, not here for a fight or anything. I even said sorry but I guess that's like saying sorry for a war. Anyway, that's my story, end of that, back to NS.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:09 PM

i kinda disagree a little...i think that if sasuke did not experienced all the misfortunes about his clan, i think he would be raised up well...just an opinion... :)

I agree he would be raised well but as the story is now he is far gone and I do like Sasuke just not his ways.



 


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:51 PM

Lurking on 55ch on anime thread, Naruto discussion.

Discussing the manga normally until 

 

It's NARUHINA IN THE END FOLKS!!.

 

oh man that srsly make me rage, at least he was ignored and one at least replied saying he was being retarded.

 

now about some parts of the discussion.

http://55ch.org/an/s...38483066622.jpg

 

i didnt knew that Kakashi could open "gates", like Kaimon and Kyumon...

 

Second part:

 

 Rin have been made ​​of the 3 tails host as "weapon"for the village of Mist is another retarded asspull. The Mist ninja who invented this plan had to be hospitalized for dementia or schizophrenia, he was basically giving a free bijuu to Konoha, which at that time had Kyuubi + Kushina + and numerous other ninjas to deal with a loose and erratic threat.

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 12:06 AM

Wanted to share chatte's awesome analysis <3 here it is guys

 

I really liked it and non-NS fans can read it too, because this is how it is whether they are kittening in the end or not.

She managed to pull it off without ending it with "and that's why they'll marry". The topic is just them as a duo.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 12:08 AM

Wanted to share chatte's awesome analysis <3 here it is guys

 

I really liked it and non-NS fans can read it too, because this is how it is whether they are kittening in the end or not.

She managed to pull it off without ending it with "and that's why they'll marry". The topic is just them as a duo.

I like her analysis overall i'll point out the whole Shinobi thing about Sakura and Naruto, the problem is that Kishi left it behind with Sakura, the last i heard about it was on the panel Chatte posted it, right on this part, it should had been bought up later since we now know it's an arc related to the shinobi and ninja way.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 03:16 AM

Well being honest Sasuke wants indeed to kill Naruto, and Obito has the rinne tensei, and being honest it's better to Obito ressurrect Naruto than every single ninja that died on the battlefield, and it's one of the scenarios that can happen.
About the logic, srsly what's the logic on Madara fighting Hashirama and giving up his plan, Sasuke killing Naruto inst what Sasuke wants?
There's nothing to explain about the logic behind Sasuke killing Naruto, he wants to kill Naruto.
 
The moral of the story is already spoiled since the chapter 3 of the manga, i'm very surprised that you didnt know about it.

ok so u think that sasuke should kill naruto and obito should bring him back so that he would be forgiven . But do u think after all this obito wants to be forgiven and live? I dont think so . He probably wants to go to rin in the afterlife and live with her foeever. And i dont think that even if naruto is that much tired that sasuke can kill him and besides if he kills him he ll be dead by the hands of alliance and if he stabs naruto or make him injured i am sure there are enough medical ninjas to heal him including tsunade, the greatest medic ninja so far in the manga. So i dont think that sasuke is that out of his god damn mind. Killing naruto would suiside

and u said moral of the story is spoiled since chapter 3. I dont think so . The story is still full of morals. And i believe kishi wont spoil it.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:37 AM

ok so u think that sasuke should kill naruto and obito should bring him back so that he would be forgiven . But do u think after all this obito wants to be forgiven and live? I dont think so . He probably wants to go to rin in the afterlife and live with her foeever. And i dont think that even if naruto is that much tired that sasuke can kill him and besides if he kills him he ll be dead by the hands of alliance and if he stabs naruto or make him injured i am sure there are enough medical ninjas to heal him including tsunade, the greatest medic ninja so far in the manga. So i dont think that sasuke is that out of his god damn mind. Killing naruto would suiside

and u said moral of the story is spoiled since chapter 3. I dont think so . The story is still full of morals. And i believe kishi wont spoil it.


Ps : sorry for the spelling mistakes i am not still good at english

Well there's orochimaru and edo kages.

Yep there's Tsunade and Sakura but would they be capable of healing a heart piercing attack like chidori or something else?

i think that since Naruto being dead there's nothing that Tsunade and Sakura could do.

Chapter 3 : Sasuke.

 

Recently 

Obito - "This war is meaningless if you dont save Sasuke">

Naruto - "Sasuke is a prisOOOOOOOOOOOOOner of Hatred".


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 11:15 AM

Well there's orochimaru and edo kages.
Yep there's Tsunade and Sakura but would they be capable of healing a heart piercing attack like chidori or something else?
i think that since Naruto being dead there's nothing that Tsunade and Sakura could do.
Chapter 3 : Sasuke.
 
Recently 
Obito - "This war is meaningless if you dont save Sasuke">
Naruto - "Sasuke is a prisOOOOOOOOOOOOOner of Hatred".

ok u r right they cant heal him after chidori . But why would sasuke do that after that he wont be forgived at any cost. And naruto even if he would committe suiside noone would ever forgive sasuke. (Ps : after naruto gets back to life according to ur theory.) . In this way naruto will be failed to bring sasuke back for which he wont even accept sakura or the job of hokage. And the whole story wll be trashed.

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