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[TouKen4Life3g]

Oda is great for reason.

Oh I forgot, shonen hero in mech series may kill human.

It's like lesson learn when kill a human. Some series have them find a way to disable mech but not kill them.

[rocci]

It's like lesson learn when kill a human. Some series have them find a way to disable mech but not kill them.

Yeah, most mech that fight against another human usually take anti war aproach. There's no glory in war, unless you fight monster.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, most mech that fight against another human usually take anti war aproach. There's no glory in war, unless you fight monster.

I don't mind that.

Apparently, monster must remain a monster.

[rocci]

I don't mind that.

Apparently, monster must remain a monster.

It indeed spark interest.

Sometime, the monster is more human than human. That's when you don't kill them as shonen hero.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It indeed spark interest.

Sometime, the monster is more human than human. That's when you don't kill them as shonen hero.

There's also a grey area. I guess that's why Naruto disappointed me before it took off.

[rocci]

There's also a grey area. I guess that's why Naruto disappointed me before it took off.

Well naruto has that area too, but kishi doesn't dwelve into it.
Either he afraid or he's just incapable to write it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well naruto has that area too, but kishi doesn't dwelve into it.
Either he afraid or he's just incapable to write it.

I mean in the war. It's literally good vs. evil.

[rocci]

I mean in the war. It's literally good vs. evil.

What war, War arc or mech war?

[TouKen4Life3g]

What war, War arc or mech war?

War arc. Mech is more like alliance vs another alliance vs neutral party aka protagonist's team.

[rocci]

War arc. Mech is more like alliance vs another alliance vs neutral party aka protagonist's team.

Well, I think it's not wrong for war arc to be good vs evil since naruto fight army of monster and undead.
Think will be different if naruto big village alliance vs sasuke united small village. I think, that could be put into gray area.

Edited by rocci, 06 July 2015 - 04:39 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I think it's not wrong for war arc to be good vs evil since naruto fight army of monster and undead.
Think will be different if naruto big village alliance vs sasuke united small village. I think, that could be put into gray area.

That would have work. I just didn't like how it got to the war. It's like we were this close to have Konoha being the target because Danzou got caught and then Obito wants to declare war because we need a plot, so I just didn't like it. It would be better if they declare war on Obito and he's all frustrated on what to do, until Kabuto shows up. Instead, he's like "I declare war on you without any true grade A plan." Kabuto made it different. So different, that he brought an excuse for Juubi to use Kyuubi and Hachibi. So what the hell. You mean to tell me Obito was always going to lose badly before Kabuto. Makes no sense.

[ichigo500]

Wow, i heard that Less than 3000 Bolt Movie tickets have been purchased. I hope this is true 

They already started selling the tickets... 

I personally think there will be less people seeing the movie, but I'm not sure, since Sasuke will be the MC ! 

[Ryriena]

I wanted him to man up and take Sasuke down if he had too in other words the grey area that is killing him for the greater good of everyone. Yes he wouldn't have filled his promise but he would understand what his parents did for him and Konhana. He would grow out of his navie mindset and learn what's it means to be a Hokage and a Ninja. I would expect a character to be grey if they were ninjas after all they had to kill each other sometimes on the battlefield.

Edited by Ryriena, 06 July 2015 - 06:41 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hm...

I wonder if they should get those tickets. I mean after all, there is their rival movie coming up. It's live action, but it's something.

[Atheck]

Can't say I'm all too surprised about the pre-ticket sales being so mediocre. Many of these people were deceived into purchasing and supporting TL before being made fully aware on what the content was about. I doubt they're choosing to make the same mistake twice. Naruto Gaiden was dead in the water when it started. Why would a film dedicated to that same work be any different? 

 

That would have work. I just didn't like how it got to the war. It's like we were this close to have Konoha being the target because Danzou got caught and then Obito wants to declare war because we need a plot, so I just didn't like it. It would be better if they declare war on Obito and he's all frustrated on what to do, until Kabuto shows up. Instead, he's like "I declare war on you without any true grade A plan." Kabuto made it different. So different, that he brought an excuse for Juubi to use Kyuubi and Hachibi. So what the hell. You mean to tell me Obito was always going to lose badly before Kabuto. Makes no sense.

 

Obito was arrogant enough to believe that his forces alone would be sufficient to contend with a joint military force of every major nation on the continent. Who can say what his original strategy may have been. At the summit he gave reference to the bijuu in a context that implied him using their power inside of the Mazo to come out of the war victorious. They were his trump card in the event that conventional forces weren't enough to subdue the Alliance and force the remaining jinchuuriki out. But aside from the guerrilla tactics, was Zetsu ever a viable threat? Most of the setbacks created in the early period of the war were caused by zombified groups like the Seven Swordsmen, the deceased Akatsuki members, and the Kages.

 

Had there been no intervention from Kabuto, you would likely be seeing a more straightforward course of war with the Zetsu being almost completely annihilated in the first day alone with far less casualties for the Alliance. There would be none of the Edo warriors nonsense, including Madara, which leaves just Black Zetsu and Obito to pick up the reigns when their forces are killed off. Not even the previous jinchuuriki would be available to use as paths for Obito so the battle would quickly transition over to the point when the full bijuu were being used against Naruto and Bee, probably with the involvement of the current Kages and Alliance as well since Madara and Kimimaro aren't there to occupy anyone. Obito will be fighting all by his lonesome the entire time, and considering how the advantage of the battle was going towards Naruto and his group before Madara arrived, I'm inclined to believe he would have lost eventually. Cue Sasuke arriving onto the scene in his psychotic state of mind and with only his EMS to contend against KM Naruto. What happens afterward is unknown but I would say there is a far greater chance of that original prediction where they both die coming true. 

 

Amazing how one character can have such a strong impact on the story, isn't it? That damn ripple effect. 

Edited by Atheck, 06 July 2015 - 09:13 PM.

[Tiller]

They already started selling the tickets... 

I personally think there will be less people seeing the movie, but I'm not sure, since Sasuke will be the MC ! 

I'll never understand Sasuke's appeal.

[Apollo]

I'll never understand Sasuke's appeal.

 

His powers are pretty cool. the way their derived and executed suck but compared to Naruto's there's so much better. Gimme Susanno over a retared fox anyday

[ichigo500]

I'll never understand Sasuke's appeal.

It's all about looks ...thing that I don't really get.

[rocci]

I'll never understand Sasuke's appeal.

He's cool by design and character. Kishi keep it that way.

@ryena
I don't think sasuke will die, if the story keep work like that.

@atheck
There's no reason for obito to declare war.

Edited by rocci, 06 July 2015 - 09:25 PM.

[Atheck]

@atheck
There's no reason for obito to declare war.

 

The incentive for starting a war with the nations was to seize the remaining jinchuuriki after they refused to give them up. Shortsighted and conceited though he may be, I suspect Obito probably went into that summit realising that he would likely be creating an army to fight with since the Kages are too obstinate to accept his offer of cooperation.