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[Luna]

I have no idea how this works, why hasnt Naruto sensed evilness on Sasuke when he thought about killing him/erasing his past even when he said "burn it down" he acts like he's not aware that Sasuke is evil.
He also doesnt act like he knows Orochimaru is evil either.

Naruto doesn't have to sense darkness to know Sasuke has evil intentions. Sasuke IS evil and all his intentions are for HIS benefit.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Naruto doesn't have to sense darkness to know Sasuke has evil intentions. Sasuke IS evil and all his intentions are for HIS benefit.

Like i said Naruto acts like he's not aware of it.

Everyone knows that including Sakura, Naruto is the only one who's not acting like he's aware of it.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 November 2013 - 11:13 PM.

[Jake]

Like i said Naruto acts like he's not aware of it.

Everyone knows that including Sakura, Naruto is the only one who's not acting like he's aware of it.

 

Maybe there is something that Naruto can since, that no one else knows, kinda like how he never showed any indication that he knew Minato was coming until after he got there.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Maybe there is something that Naruto can since, that no one else knows, kinda like how he never showed any indication that he knew Minato was coming until after he got there.

Yeah but due to his actions, he knew that they were coming that was the reason why he was on a defense mode, he was focused on protecting the alliance rather than attacking Obito.

But on this case he doesnt show up, he looks like he's naive when Sasuke said "burn it down" he was screaming at Sasuke like he wasnt aware of it.

He makes me confused.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 November 2013 - 11:35 PM.

[Hiraishin]

I usually don't give a damn what NH/SS says, but there was one comment that irritated me to hell.

So right now Sakura's popularity amongst the Japanese readers are increasing mostly due to her bangs. Every chapter with a Sakura panel has lots of comments on the chapter thread saying that Sakura is cute. (It's a general chapter thread, not a pairing one.) Recently we had the same Sakura cute comments for chapter 654.

"Sakura is cute again this chapter!"

"The bangs really fit her."

"She looks great on the cover!"

All was going fine and dandy, until one guy commented,"That's because there's Sasuke. Sakura looks cute when Sasuke is nearby."

WTF!? Nobody was talking about pairings until this guy had to put in his biased comment. What does Sakura's looks have to do with Sasuke's appearance? Does he think that Sakura went all like, "Sorry, alliance members. Now that Sasuke is here I must be gone for one hour to curl my eyelashes." ?

I don't know why and I am probably overreacting, but this comment annoyed me more than all those pathetic NH/SS arguments ever did.

This was from several pages back, but I wanted to say that I heard this from a SasuSaku fan, too. They were talking about 631 and how Sakura looked pretty now that Sasuke was there, and that she looked like a man the previous chapters (and, just a side note, they pretty much ignored Minato thinking Sakura was Naruto's girlfriend/parallel confirmation, simply brushing it off lol).   Personally I don't think she looked so nice in 631... But yeah, she barely talked to Sasuke in 631. Saying that she's cute cause Sasuke's there is silly. I mean, I thought Sakura looked beautiful in 469, and she was gorgeous in 540, neither having to do with Sasuke (I mean yeah that one panel in 540 where she thought of him but she looked like she was about to toss her cookies, fo' real).

 

@bolded: 

 

I think that people thinking Naruto moved on from Sakura is a good thing for us. I mean when something actually happens to show Naruto loves Sakura  imagine the meltdowns waiting to happen.  I'm sure there will be loads of Naruto hate judging by the fandom. (See Rin...that poor girl)

LMAO I know right? When I first read 631 I was like, "Well, this should get the Anti's to stop saying Naruto isn't in love with Sakura anymore." ...I should have known better. :\ But yeah, it's going to be pretty funny tbh. I'll laugh, and of course there will be (more) denial.

And, about the Naruto hate - already happened. When 631 was released people (NH fans, actually) were calling Naruto a jerk for saying Sakura is his girlfriend, cause what about Hinata!?  It's not like he gave anyone ANY reason to believe he was even a tiny bit romantically inclined toward Hinata, they have no reason to kitten on him like that.

 

When it comes to Naruto and Sasuke's friendship, it's certainly important, obviously, since much of the manga revolves around it. However, from my perspective, they never seemed really close, not like Naruto and Sakura have become, though that just might be my bias speaking. Sasuke and Naruto had barely become real friends before Sasuke decided to cut his bonds, and I think that is way their bond comes across forced to me, they just didn't grow close enough before Sasuke defected for it to feel genuine to me.

 

I agree with you that Naruto's platonic bond with Sakura is deeper than with Sasuke, but I personally don't like to speculate on which one he may or may not care for more, or whether he cares for them 'equally', because, as you pointed out, his bond with each is fundamentally different. He and Sasuke are bound by common pain and loneliness, while he and Sakura have formed a bond based on interaction and their gradually coming to understand the other (mostly Sakura). But of course that is just my interpretation, and I will admit I've never been in favor of the SasuNaru bond.

 

 

The bolded: I very much agree. I know 'saving' Sasuke was important to Naruto, but I would rather it were not the bulk of focus in part two. I would have loved to see more insight into the other jinchuuriki and Akatsuki, and I think Naruto's character might have been better developed if some of the focus were taken off Sasuke. 

Very much agree with these two posts. That is my biggest grievance with Naruto's character: his obsession with Sasuke. Like you, I never liked the SN 'bond' (I even don't like calling it that), I don't find it believeable, they were barely friends, and yet Naruto's willing to give up his dream if he can't save Sasuke (saying that he recognised his worth more than anyone? REALLY? Where's Iruka in all this? poor guy). It's forced. Naruto & Sakura have become much closer than Naruto and Sasuke ever were (yeah I'm biased, but if you take away all the parts where their beautiful, speshul relationship is shoved in your face then it should be clear to see which pair of characters are closer, imo). And like Darkrest said, it took the enjoyment out of Shippuden, with Naruto chasing Sasuke around and being all mopey about him like gotdamn. Funny, Sasuke brings out the worst in my favourite characters.

 

Excuse the rant, I just feel quite strongly about this. 

[Rozette]

 

The only bit of information I have ever seen about Kishi's wife is a comment from Oda (author of One Piece) back in 2003

 source

 

That's really interesting. Is this source reliable?

[Superman333]

@darkerest , but this is Naruto we talking about ... killing Naruto I believe would bring forth severe consequences . 

[narulsaku]

Naruto doesn't have to sense darkness to know Sasuke has evil intentions. Sasuke IS evil and all his intentions are for HIS benefit.

i have been saying this from the begining. it cant be that simple as it appears . sasuke has some plans. and i think that naruto does knows sasukes plans. it wouldn't be proper to say that naruto doesnt knows anything about his intension as he can understand sasuke more than everyoneelse there.

[Branden]

 

That's really interesting. Is this source reliable?

what do you mean by reliable? those are comments translated from wsj and listed online for convenience. are you asking if the translation is reliable?

 

Personally I haven't collected all 600 individual magazines so  I can't confirm if they are all legit but I highly doubt that this website is telling us false information.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@darkerest , but this is Naruto we talking about ... killing Naruto I believe would bring forth severe consequences . 

But explain the consequences, Naruto can easily forgive him since he's ressurrected anyway, killing Naruto would just keep his reputation the same way as it is, Sasuke's good actons are always following by evil ones, he killed Deidara and Itachi then joined akatsuki and attacked the kages, later he kills Danzou but almost kills Karin and Sakura, he helps to undo the edo tenseis on the war but ressurrects Orochimaru, later he joins the alliance and the next we will know.

[Psychox]

I have no idea how this works, why hasnt Naruto sensed evilness on Sasuke when he thought about killing him/erasing his past even when he said "burn it down" he acts like he's not aware that Sasuke is evil.
He also doesnt act like he knows Orochimaru is evil either.

I guess its plot. Naruto could've entered BM after 5-6 chapters of fighting along with Sasuke ,instead there were what 10 ? Maybe more?  I mean it took its time to reveal that Sasuke is inferior model in contrast to Naruto's power and charka  just to make him a jelly fish after a 10-12 chapters , so i anticipate that it will take approximately the same amount ,a volume perhaps to reveal that Naruto is not so gullible. After all ,he remembered Itachi's words + 635 + 639 how unobservant can he be ? So , i thinks it is saved for later . Now that Obito is down, the best is yet to arrive. :3 

Edited by Psychox, 21 November 2013 - 10:21 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I guess its plot. Naruto could've entered BM after 5-6 chapters of fighting along with Sasuke ,instead there were what 10 ? Maybe more?  I mean it took its time to reveal that Sasuke is inferior model in contrast to Naruto's power and charka  just to make him a jelly fish after a 10-12 chapters , so i anticipate that it will take approximately the same amount ,a volume perhaps to reveal that Naruto is not so gullible. After all ,he remembered Itachi's words + 635 + 639 how unobservant can he be ? So , i thinks it is saved for later . Now that Obito is down, the best is yet to arrive. :3 

He's aware of Sasuke saying he wants to be kage for unknown reason but his real intention was shows on later chapters "Kill Naruto" and he looks like he's not aware of it.

He dropped his guard down on the next chapter by going out from his bijuu mode.

[Superman333]

But explain the consequences, Naruto can easily forgive him since he's ressurrected anyway, killing Naruto would just keep his reputation the same way as it is, Sasuke's good actons are always following by evil ones, he killed Deidara and Itachi then joined akatsuki and attacked the kages, later he kills Danzou but almost kills Karin and Sakura, he helps to undo the edo tenseis on the war but ressurrects Orochimaru, later he joins the alliance and the next we will know.

Naruto is like the most important out there right now, if Sasuke kills Naruto off it would be bullsh** for Naruto to easily forgive him like you say. Does Sasuke actually even think about the rinne tensei? What if Obito dies who else will be there to revive Naruto? If Sasuke just kills Naruto then I don't think Naruto should forgive him so easily. If Naruto dies then Sasuke can literally have his own way, he can be Hokage, kill the beasts, all of these will be severe consequences in their own imo. , from what I can see Naruto has been in his way for the longest to do what he wanted to do. We ain't talking about near deaths and almost deaths , we are talking about him thins time actually taking a life now so. But can Sasuke himself actually resurrect somebody? Even if he could I just can't imagine Naruto forgiving him so easy but I guess thats just me because I wouldn't forgive somebody who tried to kill me. 

Edited by Superman333, 21 November 2013 - 12:12 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Naruto is like the most important out there right now, if Sasuke kills Naruto off it would be bullsh** for Naruto to easily forgive him like you say. Does Sasuke actually even think about the rinne tensei? What if Obito dies who else will be there to revive Naruto? If Sasuke just kills Naruto then I don't think Naruto should forgive him so easily. If Naruto dies then Sasuke can literally have his own way, he can be Hokage, kill the beasts, all of these will be severe consequences in their own imo. , from what I can see Naruto has been in his way for the longest to do what he wanted to do. We ain't talking about near deaths and almost deaths , we are talking about him thins time actually taking a life now so. But can Sasuke himself actually resurrect somebody? Even if he could I just can't imagine Naruto forgiving him so easy but I guess thats just me because I wouldn't forgive somebody who tried to kill me. 

Being honest Sasuke tried to kill him countless of times and looks like he forgive him, Sakura didnt obviously.
Naruto is different and his "NaruSasu" is forced, if we would apply real logic Naruto should hate him because of the things he have done.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 November 2013 - 03:53 PM.

[rocci]

Naruto is a budha, he already reach nirvana(state of enlighten) thus he will forgive sasuke....after the slap of budha palm.

And yes narusasu is force, because how oneside it is. I mean it's all about sasuke.

Edited by rocci, 21 November 2013 - 12:58 PM.

[sushi.]

Naruto is like the most important out there right now, if Sasuke kills Naruto off it would be bullsh** for Naruto to easily forgive him like you say. Does Sasuke actually even think about the rinne tensei? What if Obito dies who else will be there to revive Naruto? If Sasuke just kills Naruto then I don't think Naruto should forgive him so easily. If Naruto dies then Sasuke can literally have his own way, he can be Hokage, kill the beasts, all of these will be severe consequences in their own imo. , from what I can see Naruto has been in his way for the longest to do what he wanted to do. We ain't talking about near deaths and almost deaths , we are talking about him thins time actually taking a life now so. But can Sasuke himself actually resurrect somebody? Even if he could I just can't imagine Naruto forgiving him so easy but I guess thats just me because I wouldn't forgive somebody who tried to kill me. 

No, he will be much angrier if Sasuke kills one of his friends. Naruto will give Sasuke another chance if he kills him, but not if he harms one on his side.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No, he will be much angrier if Sasuke kills one of his friends. Naruto will give Sasuke another chance if he kills him, but not if he harms one on his side.

Plus the fact that Naruto forgiving him because of his death, would force the others to forgive Sasuke too.

[Rozette]

what do you mean by reliable? those are comments translated from wsj and listed online for convenience. are you asking if the translation is reliable?

 

Personally I haven't collected all 600 individual magazines so  I can't confirm if they are all legit but I highly doubt that this website is telling us false information.

 

Yes, that is primarily what I meant. It can be hard to tell these days. Sorry for the stupid question.. 

Edited by Gamakushii, 21 November 2013 - 10:03 PM.

[narulsaku]

But explain the consequences, Naruto can easily forgive him since he's ressurrected anyway, killing Naruto would just keep his reputation the same way as it is, Sasuke's good actons are always following by evil ones, he killed Deidara and Itachi then joined akatsuki and attacked the kages, later he kills Danzou but almost kills Karin and Sakura, he helps to undo the edo tenseis on the war but ressurrects Orochimaru, later he joins the alliance and the next we will know.

hey hey. i dont believe u actually want naruto to die in sasukes hand? whats ur logic behind this ??????? if naruto dies it would definitly spoil all the moral of the story. and u r talking about rinne tensei. who ll perform that if naruto dies. i find this very very....wired theory

[Superman333]

[quote name="narulsaku" post="505008" timestamp="1385087945"]

hey hey. i dont believe u actually want naruto to die in sasukes hand? whats ur logic behind this ??????? if naruto dies it would definitly spoil all the moral of the story. and u r talking about rinne tensei. who ll perform that if naruto dies. i find this very very....wired theory[/quote

my point exactly I don't get the logic behind this .