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#11341 RedFaction

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:00 AM

I accepted that Kishi has the mind of an NH fan.

NH fan- Sakura would be a slut if she ends up with Naruto.

Kishi- Sakura would be a terrible person if she moves on.

NH fan- Naruto doesn't love Sakura, its just a crush and for comic relief.

Kishi- Naruto has never loved anyone. He only thought he liked Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke.

No wonder we lost.

So many chapters, so many moments destroyed, especially in early shippuden, if you look at them thinking that Naruto only had a crush on Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke.


 


#11342 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:18 AM

I accepted that Kishi has the mind of an NH fan.

NH fan- Sakura would be a slut if she ends up with Naruto.

Kishi- Sakura would be a terrible person if she moves on.

NH fan- Naruto doesn't love Sakura, its just a crush and for comic relief.

Kishi- Naruto has never loved anyone. He only thought he liked Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke.

No wonder we lost.

Yet he still managed to kitten up. Good god...

#11343 Michi

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:20 AM

I accepted that Kishi has the mind of an NH fan.

NH fan- Sakura would be a slut if she ends up with Naruto.

Kishi- Sakura would be a terrible person if she moves on.

NH fan- Naruto doesn't love Sakura, its just a crush and for comic relief.

Kishi- Naruto has never loved anyone. He only thought he liked Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke.

No wonder we lost.


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#11344 ramenanmitsu

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

What the hell was the point of Sai guilt-tripping Sakura and telling her she was hurting Naruto? That guy didn't love her and only used her for his rivalry with Sasuke, there was no reason for Sakura to feel guilty.

I want an explanation Kishi.

1 month later
Kishi: I wanted to show that you cannot learn about human relationships just from reading books.
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#11345 ns.Believe.It

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:30 AM

So...

A bad lesson for women "Women don't change." So...what about guys?

Explain, Kishi. Explain.

He's already made it clear--

1) Men are superior to women. A girl's life revolves all around love whereas guys have better goals.

2) Once a woman likes a boy when she was 10, its over for her. She has to stay loyal or else she's horrible Whereas men can consider their options and change their mind.

3) Women are just tools for men- they can take out their frustrations on women, they can abuse and torture women, its all okay because women will endure the pain and still deeply love their man.

4) Men can use a woman's feelings as a prize, to get one over other men and satisfy their alpha-male ego.

 

To summarize, Kishi makes guys look like jackasses. Not shocking considering that his favorite character seems to be Sasuke Uchiha-- the epitome of jerks. 


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:31 AM

I will choose not to acknowledge many aspect of this arduous long ass war,chapter 699, the movie 699.5 , chapter 700 and the next generation and I refuse, REFUSE to forget my fond memories of many parts in part one and many in part two including 698.  What I will not do is forget and I will not forgive Kishimoto for the grotesque level of negligence he did to the end of this story by catering to one aspect of the fanbase and for money, the despicable messages he left behind to both young men and young women and for taking away Naruto's smile, his history and his love for Sakura.  

I am not salty, I read a story and witnessed the living death by destruction of nearly everything I remembered about Naruto.

I will remember to never recommend anyone to read it. 


Edited by Midoriko, 30 November 2014 - 04:34 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:34 AM

@ramenanmitsu

 

I gave you your bloody and disturbing gift as you pleased :v (589)


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:36 AM

I will choose not to acknowledge many aspect of this arduous long ass war,chapter 699, the movie 699.5 , chapter 700 and the next generation and I refuse, REFUSE to forget my fond memories of many parts in part one and many in part two including 698.  What I will not do is forget and I will not forgive Kishimoto for the grotesque level of negligence he did to the end of this story by catering to one aspect of the fanbase and for money, the despicable messages he left behind to both young men and young women and for taking away Naruto's smile, his history and his love for Sakura.  
I am not salty, I read a story and witnessed the living death by destruction of nearly everything I remembered about Naruto.
I will remember to never recommend anyone to read it. 


this is just a beginning

the last will retcon everything
u'll literally be counting the retcons & be like
so...
this is retcon no. 345,896

#11349 ramenanmitsu

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:40 AM

@ramenanmitsu
 
I gave you your bloody and disturbing gift as you pleased :v (589)

Thank you very much for your present! I looked back and found it.

I shall try to give you Kishi's head on a golden platter for your valentine present ;)
That is, if he made a movie that will disappoint you.
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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:42 AM

I'm just going to copy-paste this:

It's not just that it doesn't make sense. It's the fact that it goes completely in the opposite way. And it treats us like morons. After years of showing in the manga that Naruto loves Sakura. Examples: Chapter 3 when we have an answer to why Naruto loves Sakura. Because she's like him, she wants acknowledgment. Plus we find out that Naruto likes her forehead something that Sakura doesn't like about her. Later on we find out that Kushina had a similar thing with Minato. Kushina hated her hair while Minato liked her hair.

 

Naruto declaring to Sai that he loves Sakura but can't tell her because he feels unworthy because he failed to keep his promise to her.

Naruto declaring in front of his father and in front of Hinata. That Sakura is his girlfriend. Sakura doesn't deny it.

Sakura confesses her love to him and we see his expression, we understand that nothing would make him happier than to be loved by Sakura.

Naruto's selfless love towards Sakura the entire storyline.

Naruto's promise to Sakura that he did everything he can in order to keep it. And so many more moments.

 

And after all that Naruto's love for Sakura is reduced to nothing more than rivalry bullsh**. That's bullsh**. There isn't a single thing in this entire storyline that supports that. Nothing.

Characters that were shown to support NS are now supporting NH and acting like NS never existed. Characters like Shikamaru and Sakura. Sakura supporting NH? bullsh**. We saw that she didn't like that Hinata had feelings towards Naruto in 442, we also saw her reaction in 615. Sakura all of a sudden supports NH. No way in hell.

 

Naruto acting like a retard child that Hinata leaves him. bullsh**.

Naruto was in love with Hinata all his life. bullsh**.

This can't be the ending. This is insane. This is stupid. This is insulting everyone that followed this story.

I mean for God's sake the databooks just came out and in them it says that Naruto loves Sakura. And hints that Sakura's feelings towards Naruto go beyond friendship. Just like the previous databooks.

And now Kishi is telling us that the events in this movie are the things we should go by. kitten you Kishi. There's no way in hell that I'm taking this ending as the real ending.

 

This is what I've told someone on the forum here.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:45 AM

How do you put pictures in spoilers?


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:47 AM

Thank you very much for your present! I looked back and found it.

I shall try to give you Kishi's head on a golden platter for your valentine present ;)
That is, if he made a movie that will disappoint you.

 

Red is the color of love, after all  :hehehe: Make it bloody!!!!


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#11353 Nostradamus

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:49 AM

 

Red is the color of love, after all  :hehehe: Make it bloody!!!!

By using this:  [ spoiler=spoiler title here ] [ /spoiler ]  but get rid of the spaces. I made the spaces so you can actually see it.


Edited by Nostradamus, 30 November 2014 - 04:50 AM.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


#11354 Khaleesi

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:49 AM

How do you put pictures in spoilers?

First put the picture, select it and click "Special BBC code" in the toolbar and select "spoiler". 


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#11355 Khaleesi

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:50 AM

[ spoiler=spoiler title here ] [ /spoiler ] By using this but get rid of the spaces. I made the spaces so you can actually see it.

You answered mine, lmao.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:51 AM

I'm just going to copy-paste this:
It's not just that it doesn't make sense. It's the fact that it goes completely in the opposite way. And it treats us like morons. After years of showing in the manga that Naruto loves Sakura. Examples: Chapter 3 when we have an answer to why Naruto loves Sakura. Because she's like him, she wants acknowledgment. Plus we find out that Naruto likes her forehead something that Sakura doesn't like about her. Later on we find out that Kushina had a similar thing with Minato. Kushina hated her hair while Minato liked her hair.
 
Naruto declaring to Sai that he loves Sakura but can't tell her because he feels unworthy because he failed to keep his promise to her.
Naruto declaring in front of his father and in front of Hinata. That Sakura is his girlfriend. Sakura doesn't deny it.
Sakura confesses her love to him and we see his expression, we understand that nothing would make him happier than to be loved by Sakura.
Naruto's selfless love towards Sakura the entire storyline.
Naruto's promise to Sakura that he did everything he can in order to keep it. And so many more moments.
 
And after all that Naruto's love for Sakura is reduced to nothing more than rivalry bullsh**. That's bullsh**. There isn't a single thing in this entire storyline that supports that. Nothing.
Characters that were shown to support NS are now supporting NH and acting like NS never existed. Characters like Shikamaru and Sakura. Sakura supporting NH? bullsh**. We saw that she didn't like that Hinata had feelings towards Naruto in 442, we also saw her reaction in 615. Sakura all of a sudden supports NH. No way in hell.
 
Naruto acting like a retard child that Hinata leaves him. bullsh**.
Naruto was in love with Hinata all his life. bullsh**.
This can't be the ending. This is insane. This is stupid. This is insulting everyone that followed this story.
I mean for God's sake the databooks just came out and in them it says that Naruto loves Sakura. And hints that Sakura's feelings towards Naruto go beyond friendship. Just like the previous databooks.
And now Kishi is telling us that the events in this movie are the things we should go by. kitten you Kishi. There's no way in hell that I'm taking this ending as the real ending.
 
This is what I've told someone on the forum here.


Please accept all my likes.

I really thought about it & yes... Now I believe the fact that kishimoto chose to ignore every moment, parallel, or logic from the manga.

& why? Money.

So yes. I'm sorry.

I pretty much lost all hope that NS will happen.

For those who are still on the hope wagon...you keep on doing. Good for you.

NS forever, canon or not.

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#11357 Nostradamus

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:51 AM

How do you put pictures in spoilers?

By using this:  [ spoiler=spoiler title here ] [ /spoiler ]  but get rid of the spaces. I made the spaces so you can actually see it.

 

You answered mine, lmao.

That's bizarre. I clicked the reply button to DeathGodMack, not you. I corrected myself now but it's still strange.


Edited by Nostradamus, 30 November 2014 - 04:52 AM.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:56 AM

Are people really accepting all of this? Why would Kishi let other people do this to his own story and help them? I just don't understand.

Edited by yellowflash, 30 November 2014 - 04:56 AM.


#11359 Midoriko

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:56 AM

this is just a beginning

the last will retcon everything
u'll literally be counting the retcons & be like
so...
this is retcon no. 345,896

He can retcon until the cows comes home, he can't retcon my memory of the story as I read it.



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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:56 AM

Thing is, if it was for money, it's going to backfire.

 

The movie won't flop, but it's going to get panned by critics (at least the ones who aren't NH shippers) and the DVD/Blu-Ray sales will be limited to the Hinata fans only.  The Hinata merchandise is not budging (verified by closet otaku friend who lives in Tokyo and frequents Akihabara.)  

 

Either the movie is not as it seems or this was a terrible miscalculation on Studio Pierrot's part.


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