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#11341 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 01:23 PM

 

 

So expect in this movie Naruto's feelings for Sakura will be turned just as "a crush" or "faint love".

I can live with that if only Naruto and Sakura have one last evidence of it, baby, because apparently - Minato and Kushina too had only a faint love between them  :zaru:

 

It won't just feel awkward - it will feel insulting. Not just to the readers with reading comprehension, but to the author himself even though he might just shrug it off and not care. After all pairings are a little part of the story, it is not like it ruined main themes of Naruto like never giving up....oh wait.

It's a pitty that Kishimoto behave like this with those who believe in him. 



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 02:07 PM

 

Just you wait and watch the movie explain you that Hinata is the reason why Naruto became Hokage..... Ugh....

 

Haha, not only that.. watch the movie explain how it was Hinata all along who gave Naruto the strength to bring Sasuke back. How it was Hinata who was in his heart this entire time. How it was Hinata who made his loneliness go away as a kid from a made up childhood scene. The movie will also tell us that it was Hinata who was the main heroine this whole time.  :zaru:


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 02:24 PM

I wonder if that 'Shocking end' which Kishi told us was NS. I mean....like....making NH canon and then NS by some twists and all. God knows what but if NS becomes canon now in the movie right from the point where VoTE ended...it'd be shocking...

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 02:45 PM

 

A sh*tty movie does not make up what he has written in his story. 

If this really happens, I'll laugh. It makes him look even more pathetic as a writer. 

 

Exactly. A good manga does not need a movie to explain plot developments or cover up for terrible writing.



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 02:47 PM

 

Haha, not only that.. watch the movie explain how it was Hinata all along who gave Naruto the strength to bring Sasuke back. How it was Hinata who was in his heart this entire time. How it was Hinata who made his loneliness go away as a kid from a made up childhood scene. The movie will also tell us that it was Hinata who was the main heroine this whole time.  :zaru:

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 03:10 PM

There are four curses for this garbage:-

 

1-Kishi

2-Dojutsu,that thing is the reason

3-Sasuke

4-This garbage manga itself

 

 

Btw has our 60's spidey meme guy left.U know the user named NSmakessense


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 04:31 PM

It won't just feel awkward - it will feel insulting. Not just to the readers with reading comprehension, but to the author himself even though he might just shrug it off and not care. After all pairings are a little part of the story, it is not like it ruined main themes of Naruto like never giving up....oh wait.

 

Yeah... but they will do it. They included childhood scenes of Naruto and Hinata. You know for what purpose, just like me...
Studio Pierrot already did that during Pain arc.

 

 

 

 

I explained to someone recently (who didn't read Naruto) that the ending was like an April Fool's prank. Everything was wrong, nothing made sense. But then...it turned out to be real. Ugh.

 

Yeah I feel like that too. April fool's prank. Totally. I still can't believe it.

 

 

 

Haha, not only that.. watch the movie explain how it was Hinata all along who gave Naruto the strength to bring Sasuke back. How it was Hinata who was in his heart this entire time. How it was Hinata who made his loneliness go away as a kid from a made up childhood scene. The movie will also tell us that it was Hinata who was the main heroine this whole time.  :zaru:

 

I'm totally expecting something along those lines.... =/


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:41 PM

 

she has boobs? She is the leader of the strongest and anciest clan of Konoha? I dunno.

About that... wouldn't that be the Senju and Uchiha now? I mean seems like Kishimoto forgot all about that. :lmao



 


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:51 PM

This probably belongs in the theory thread...but what if --besides not wanting Sasuke to tread down darkness anymore and wanting to take the burden off Naruto--Sakura tried to kill Sasuke because she knew he'd be a threat to her newfound feelings for Naruto?
Maybe she wanted to kill him off before her inevitable doom with him by Kishimoto lol.

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:56 PM

When Hinata got her butt handed to her by Pain, that was a straw that broke the camels back moment for Naruto. Kishimoto could have literally put any character in her place and the result would have been the same; a friend of Naruto's get's taken down by the guy who killed his sensei/godfather and 2/3 of Konoha resulting in too much Kurama chakra coming through Naruto's weakening seal. 
(The fact his seal had been in a constant state of deterioration prior to his meeting Kushina often goes overlooked by the NH crowd) When we look at the Shukaku fight, Naruto not only mentions saving Sakura more times than Konoha, he crawls on his chin to make sure she is safe. 

The handhold with Hinata served two purposes; to transfer chakra (he also holds Shikamaru's hand in the exact same way as Hinata's, then proceeds to give everyone handclaps - again to transfer chakra) and to give her character closure. Hinata wanted to hold Naruto's hand and stand by his side as an equal. She acomplished that. And really, if a handhold means THAT much, well, Sakura has HInata beat. Many times, Naruto would hold Sakura's hand and vice versa as they hurried each other through towns and trees. And hugs trump handholds anyway. More personal. Sakura has gotten way more hugs than Hinata. 

The slap to Naruto's cheek by Hinata is really an epic fail on the part of NH fans. They seem to praise Hinata for her physical violance against Naruto yet they bemoan Sakura for it (forgetting she is a Tsundere type just like Kushina). That is hypocrisy. Ignoring that, Sakura has Hinata beat on firsts with this as well. Long before Hinata, Sakura smacked naruto on the cheek to remind him of who he was. 

That's literally about all the "development" between Naruto and Hinata thus far. Now, all Hinata has left to do is make good on her words not to pursue Naruto anymore. 
We of course have the parallels that so many NH fans complain about yet use themselves. NaruSaku is a blantant parallel to not only Minato and Kushina but Sakura's parent's as well. Sakura's father is a goofball like Naruto and her mother is more-so serious like Sakura. Of the films done, Kishi had the most creative control of Road to Ninja and he filled the entire movie with obvious examples of the similarities between the couples. 
In manga, we have Kushina ask Naruto to stay away from weird girls. Naruto calls Hinata weird. She asks him to not fall for the first girl that comes his way. Hinata is actually the first girl to come his way. All other times, he has gone to Sakura. 
Finally, She asks him to find a woman like her to love. (Sorry NH fans but she never said "find a woman like Minato to love" so that whole Naruto=Kushina and Hinata=Minato thing you rant about is really invalid) 
Saku and Kush both have the same fiery, caring, hates to lose attitudes. They both use verbal expressive when excited (Dattebane/Shannaro) as well as identical phycial expressions such as the bicep flex. Both fit the scarey mom troups used heavily in the series (Anko, Ayame, Ino, Ino's mom, Sakura's mom, Tsunade, Kurenai, Shika's mom, and so on) Both had physical aspects they were picked on over. The first boy to compliment Kushina's hair was Minato, the first to compliment Sakura's forehead was Naruto. Both womean started out not liking their blondes. Kushina admits to treating Minato exactly as Sakura treated Naruto. She also says he grew on her and she eventually came to love him. 

The Iron Country confession shows that Naruto wasn't upset about Sakura saying she cared about him, it was because of what she said about Sasuke. When she tries to kill the Uchiha, she is saved by Naruto paralleling how Minato saved Kushina from the Uchiha trying to kill her. 

Other characters have noted the closesness of NaruSaku. Iruka, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Yamato, Sai, and even Sasuke have all made remarks. The most telling though was Minato who asked if Sakura was Naruto's GF. He agreed she was and she didn't deny it. Minato then notes how similar Sakura is to Kushina. Now, Minato knows about medic nins. He also states he knows all of what Naruto has gone through. There is only one reson why he would ask if Sakura is his GF and not just a friend or medic nin. And since Naruto hates liars and those who joke about love, there is no reason he;d lie or joke to his father.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:01 PM

obito reveal 2.0 and the reaction will be much worse. remember, kishi loves shock. ns is too obvious, so he has to throw us off first and what better way to do that than to bait the nh shippers into emptying their wallets to see the last movie. he's been milking the pairings for years and this will be his last chance to troll the fandom. he wants to go out in a bang, and i can't help but admire that level of trolling.
 
1st step:
find some way to make hinata relevant. since she's pairing fodder this movie will have to be about love. 
 
2nd step:
but every second of this movie can't be about love, so we have to have her cousin hanabi be kidnapped, even though we haven't seen her in the manga for years.
 
3rd step:
have her in a trailer screaming naruto's name as usual. that usually gets the shippers hyped up.
 
4th step:
market the crap out of hinata. like making hinata clocks, figurines and inserting her with team 7. 
 
and there you have it, folks. the best way into making nh definitively canon without any interaction. genius, right?
 
oh, and about that obito reveal i mentioned...eSDoZ.jpg

 

"How am I going to shock my readers if they know my intent? I must make some sort of misdirection, no matter how messed up they think it is. Because I likes to f**cks with people." - Masashi Kishimoto  So basically The Movie will show narusaku. Its a ploy by kish and sp to make more money. Make people think it will show nh/ss,so  they will go see the movie, Then when it turns out to be NS we will go see the movie. So double the money.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:02 PM

About that... wouldn't that be the Senju and Uchiha now? I mean seems like Kishimoto forgot all about that. :lmao

come on man hinata sama is the best,what senju,what uciha the hiuga ar the pawer :twitch:with her big breasts :twitch:



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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:14 PM

 

http://www.narusaku....=14640?&page=18

Start from page 18

 

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 7 2013, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I stumbled upon a post on Tumblr and thought I would share it~ This sums up what I believe is happening right now with all of the Hinata focus going on in the chapters. 

"I’m not sure if I said this before, but I’ll say it anyway, Kishi is trying to fool the readers. He’s doing what I like to call a narrative feint. I’ve seen it before in other manga. The writer spends the majority of the story hinting at one main pairing. But at one point, usually during the second half of the story, the writer begins to add evidence that they’re instead going to pair the main character with another love interest instead. Sometimes even going as far as actually having them get involved romantically, which Kishi is not likely to do since that bit usually only happens in the romance genre, where the pairings are the main focus. In the end the author always hooks up the pairing which they had been most strongly foreshadowing throughout the entirety of the story. Almost always the main guy and main girl. In this case Naruto and Sakura.

Narrative feints are not restricted to romance. Kishi already did it with Tobi. He gradually hinted at Tobi being Obito. Suddenly he made everyone think that Tobi was really Madara, or someone other then Obito. And through it all he kept adding hints that pointed towards Tobi=Obito. And in the end that’s exactly what happened. He’s doing the same thing with his main pairing.

Usually, I find these feints to be very unsubtle ways of trying to add a twist to a story. That or the author just likes the troll their fans. Either way, people keep falling for them.

I’ve got to hand it to Kishi though. I wasn’t sure how it would happen, but he managed to make Hinata’s prediction in chapter 573 come true. But don’t forget, Sakura also had a prediction in that chapter. I notice in moments like in 573, mangas and anime usually give the person who is most important to the main character the last word. Sakura had the last word in 573. Meaning, now that Hinata has had her moment, Sakura’s moment is next and it will be more significant.

Hinata’s words on the last panel of 615 do worry me though. They could be taken as a hint that she is going to die. There are two reasons why I don’t want this to happen. First, I’ve always liked her character. I hope that someday she eventually does rise up to succeed her father. And second, if she dies, when NaruSaku happens then a bunch of NaruHina fans will simply claim that if Hinata hadn’t died then Naruto would have gotten together with her instead. And we will literally never hear the end of it.


And I’ll close this with what I have been saying the whole time, NaruSaku is inevitable. It is the most heavily and obviously hinted outcome in the manga. More so then anything else. Practically written in stone. It is simply too late for Kishi to pair Naruto with anyone else, without making it look like sloppy writing. And Kishi is is consistent with the outcomes of his foreshadowing. Don’t fall for the feint.

 

He/She has a point. Though, this all could be more probable if only Himawari didn't have whiskers. Toneri hasn't to do anything with this. I know it still doesn't make sense for the story as a whole for NH and SS to be canon, but Kishi wanted more green in his pocket.

 

About Salada, still can't believe Kishi named someone like salad which I typed the name despite myself, is more like Sasuke's and Karin's kid, and Sakura, for some reason, is helping to take care of her. She could be, but I'm not surprised if it turned out to be Sakura's biological child.

 

Everything is sold out in 699 - 700.

 

If this narrative feint turned out to be true then Himawari's whiskers is going to be one hell of a thing to be known how she got them as much as it's sound silly for whiskers.

 

I'll always believe in NS, but I want Kishi to redeem himself on what he did in 699 and 700 especially when Sasuke stole NS's poke on the forehead that was since chapter 3.


Edited by T XD, 15 November 2014 - 07:16 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:15 PM

obito reveal 2.0 and the reaction will be much worse. remember, kishi loves shock. ns is too obvious, so he has to throw us off first and what better way to do that than to bait the nh shippers into emptying their wallets to see the last movie. he's been milking the pairings for years and this will be his last chance to troll the fandom. he wants to go out in a bang, and i can't help but admire that level of trolling.
 
1st step:
find some way to make hinata relevant. since she's pairing fodder this movie will have to be about love. 
 
2nd step:
but every second of this movie can't be about love, so we have to have her cousin hanabi be kidnapped, even though we haven't seen her in the manga for years.
 
3rd step:
have her in a trailer screaming naruto's name as usual. that usually gets the shippers hyped up.
 
4th step:
market the crap out of hinata. like making hinata clocks, figurines and inserting her with team 7. 
 
and there you have it, folks. the best way into making nh definitively canon without any interaction. genius, right?
 
oh, and about that obito reveal i mentioned...eSDoZ.jpg

 

"How am I going to shock my readers if they know my intent? I must make some sort of misdirection, no matter how messed up they think it is. Because I likes to f**cks with people." - Masashi Kishimoto  So basically The Movie will show narusaku. Its a ploy by kish and sp to make more money. Make people think it will show nh/ss,so  they will go see the movie, Then when it turns out to be NS we will go see the movie. So double the money.

do you have to copy/paste every little thing that comes out of that thread? come on man -__-


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

do you have to copy/paste every little thing that comes out of that thread? come on man -__-

Thank you.

@deathgodmack I know that you're trying to spread the hope & all, but these things are meant for the THEORY THREAD.

Not in here.

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

do you have to copy/paste every little thing that comes out of that thread? come on man -__-

He has to spread the word man.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:33 PM

Nah guys, for me at least its pretty obvious the movie will be NH/SS, no way kishis playing this big of a feint by changing the end pairings. I would've liked tho...)

Anyway, i will continue shipping NS, i wont stop just because it wasn't canon and even so going by the manga it is pretty obvious it was meant to be. A shame kishimoto sold himself in the end

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:38 PM

I had the worst Naruto nightmare ever.

So the dream starts out at night and I am looking out over Konoha. Turns out I am Naruto, but at the end of the series. I look around the room and realize that this life...it doesn't feel like I belong anymore. So I get up and walk out on the street; the lamps casting a soft glow. I don't feel like the world was real. I felt trapped, but I didn't know a way out and I felt like there was nothing left for me.

I walk past my house and see Hinata with the two kids sitting them down for dinner. I am not even smiling. I can't smile. It's not hate that stricken me, but rather I feel like I don't belong. I made choices on a whim rather than by the heart and I realized I probably made the biggest mistakes ever. I walk down farther and come across Sakura's house. Sasuke wasn't there and she is also sitting Salad down for dinner. I allow myself one more smile and a wish knowing full well it won't happen. That's when I realized that I don't know what to do anymore. I don't know what living is because it feels like I am dead.

I take off my Kage coat and hang it on a post near the town entrance and I just keep walking. I don't know where I am going, but I just keep walking. I feel my mind slipping almost into insanity because I don't know what is anymore. I just don't belong anywhere and it feels like I gave up too much. I also start to hate myself because I feel too selfish. Maybe I want someone to save me right now, but no one will. I don't even feel like a person, just a puppet meant to dance for others' amusement.

So I just keep walking...

And that was it...I woke up after that.


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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:42 PM

I was really pissed of when i saw a pic showing Sarada as SK child & Sakura is MAID

..MAID!! Come on that's too much!!

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Posted 15 November 2014 - 06:43 PM

Thank you.

@deathgodmack I know that you're trying to spread the hope & all, but these things are meant for the THEORY THREAD.

Not in here.

I asked him yesterday to elaborate about the NS in the movie thing. That's why it's seen now.






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