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Posted 11 November 2014 - 08:54 PM

It's actually going to be a lot worse than you might think it is, especially in regards to Sakura.

The song that we've been discussing about is Vessel of Stars and it's the song that comes with the CD cover of Naruto giving Hinata his back.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 09:17 PM

I wonder if Naruto will still call her Sakura-Chan in the movie.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 09:23 PM

It's actually going to be a lot worse than you might think it is, especially in regards to Sakura.


I wouldnt be surprise.. the way she acted on 699 was totally off. From being super concern to Naruto to not even giving him a reply

 
Because she knows she's just a rebound girl. It says in movie advertisements that she hates herself for not doing anything sooner when it comes to telling Naruto her feelings. Now she's getting him because his true love went with someone else.


Oh wait... did she finally realized that naruto loves someone else? Because all this time i got the impression that everyone knew Naruto has this deep love for Sakura that she seem unaware of...

Oh sorry ns was platonic right? Thats why hinata never react negatively to the ns hug scene after she confessed.

Naruto had a faint love for Sakura???? OMG they are making this so much worse. How in the hell is this the Naruto I grew to know, he loved her so selflessly and now they decide to kitten on his feelings. Naruto was never shown to be dishonest about his emotions. He is the hero, not a side character who is shown to have fickle emotions. His motto was 'to never give up' I would think that applied to everything he loved and believed in. They are sh**ting on the bond that naruto and sakura had, even if in the end we 'misinterpretted' their relationship, Naruto and Sakura still had the best developed bond. He loved sakura and he moved on, simple. Why are they making it now as if he never really loved her in the first place. They are making Naruto seem like someone who wasn't true to his feelings just to make light for naruhina so that it makes more sense. This makes me very sad. This Naruto who had a 'faint love' is not the Naruto I grew to love.


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This movie is asking me to forget the 15 freakin years of growing up wih this manga for some reason i dont know..

Everything i believe in is thrown in the window.

They never gave enough reason or ANY reason for me to go back to nh and ss.

I just dont know anymore.

Yeah i get it..Kishimoto might have intended to create Hinata to end up with Naruto at the end but he made such FREAKIN mistake of making haruno sakura...or maybe we couldnt blame him.. since his characters naturally grew.. grew so much that even kishimoto couldnt stop.

It grew larger than life and is a screaming elephant in the room that you just have to dismiss to give way to a pairing that dont even makes sense.

When did Hinata got this powerful hold onto the plot anyway?

Ugh naruto became such an important matter in my life whether i like it or not. 8 grew up with it and i cant accaept the anomally thatbis that 2 chapter and this movie.. my childhood dreams ...gone just gone

Let us be an adult like naruto. A sad stern adult who needed a trip to neverland so we can remember whatbits like to be truly happy

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:04 PM

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Are they serious? Naruto only had light feelings for Sakura? That's a load of kitten, and everyone knows it. Naruto was in love with Sakura, and I mean deep. He knew her better then anyone else, and I suppose they'll say Sasuke secretly loved Sakura for all those years he was gone, and didn't know how to recoup them, right? :zaru:


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:06 PM

At this point I don't want any closure on NaruSaku because I don't trust Kishimoto or Studio Pierrot's hack writers to deliver a meaningful end to that potential pairing.

 

I don't want to see Sakura reject Naruto, or have Naruto come to the sudden realisation Sakura was nothing more than a sister all along, or whatever horrible idea they might come up with.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:12 PM

At this point I don't want any closure on NaruSaku because I don't trust Kishimoto or Studio Pierrot's hack writers to deliver a meaningful end to that potential pairing.
 
I don't want to see Sakura reject Naruto, or have Naruto come to the sudden realisation Sakura was nothing more than a sister all along, or whatever horrible idea they might come up with.

You know the more I think about this to more I start to think that maybe it will be Naruto that rejects Sakura. This will also be a good way to make NH look good.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:29 PM

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:34 PM

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Idk about that Slex, 700 had way too many problems with it. NH/SS may have an advantage right now, but in my mind something's really off about all this.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:42 PM

Idk about that Slex, 700 had way too many problems with it. NH/SS may have an advantage right now, but in my mind something's really off about all this.

 

It seems off because it's probably not the way that the story was intended to go.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:44 PM

Assuming that info about Naruto's "light feelings" is true or even partially true I just have to ask why? Why bother? Why sweep Naruto's feelings under the rug? To make the ending less jarring, newsflash the ending is always going to be jarring and a lot of people have pointed that out both shippers and non-shippers. All it's going to do is create further disconnect between the events of the manga and the resolution in the epilogue.

 

The last thing they should do is shy away from Naruto's feelings for Sakura. No they should use this as an opportunity to address the elephant in the room if they truly want to create a plausible reason as to how Naruto and Hinata end up together and that is the main one then they should have Naruto actually lay out his feelings for Sakura towards the beginning of the movie. 

 

Maybe have him tell her that he's loved her for so long but though it hurts he's willing to step aside in light of Sasuke beginning to reciprocate her feelings (as I think that's what the moment in 699 was about) or if what Slex says is true and Sakura is engaged/married and have her tell Naruto that she loves him too but she wants to be with Sasuke because she's in love with him (cheesy I know) and that she will always be his friend, teammate and that she will always believe in him and support him and have them part on amiable terms (because that's one of my biggest problems with 700 it just looks like everyone grew up and grew apart).

 

That can lead to Naruto going on the mission where him and Hinata can grow closer and Naruto can think that what's truly important about Kushina's words isn't finding someone whose personality matches his mother but someone who loves him unconditionally as she did.

 

Is it perfect? No. Does it excuse the massive jump in logic in the last few chapters? No. But at the very least it's a conclusion that I could accept even though it should never have been relegated to a movie and if they want to sell me that NaruHina and SasuSaku were always meant to be the end pairings (something I don't believe at all) then that's a good first step and the sad thing i came up with that scenario in 2 minutes and to me it's more satisfying and conclusive than anything that will probably show up in The Last.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:49 PM

 

It seems off because it's probably not the way that the story was intended to go.

Maybe but why hold back this information? Seems kind of heartless in my opinion.

 

And speaking of which how would you even get into contact with a member of Kishi's inner circle/SP anyways? Or why would a japanese guy ever call a random canadian NaruSaku fan it doesn't make sense.

 

Part of me accepts the ending, the other part is raising alarm bells. Besides 700 was pretty vague imo. I got enough fight left in me for one more pirated movie anyway.

 

And If I remember correctly a certain Canadian NS fan was calling 700 a Narrative feint anyways :P

 

Srry Slex, I respect you but I have to call BS on this. I hope you understand. 


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:50 PM

 

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My post is a downer in it's own right. lol That actually explains the moment. We thought it would mean a revisit to the bench scene. Instead, it will probably be what you have suggested - a recall to Sasuke calling Sakura annoying.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:57 PM

Sakura might be engaged with 19?! What the hell are the movie makers and Kishi even thinking sending that kind of message? Here I am, a college student, whose more concerned about her calc grade than some kind of engagement. Is that why she is wearing this necklace that has been hidden so far? Is it an engagement ring? Anyways, thanks for sharing this important peace of information slextrem :) !

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:58 PM

Maybe but why hold back this information? Seems kind of heartless in my opinion.

 

And speaking of which how would you even get into contact with a member of Kishi's inner circle/SP anyways? Or why would a japanese guy ever call a random canadian NaruSaku fan it doesn't make sense.

 

Part of me accepts the ending, the other part is raising alarm bells. Besides 700 was pretty vague imo. I got enough fight left in me for one more pirated movie anyway.

 

And If I remember correctly a certain Canadian NS fan was calling 700 a Narrative feint anyways :P

 

Srry Slex, I respect you but I have to call BS on this. I hope you understand. 

 

X is recognized as an official source by the entire fandom. I can't disclose the name, but if you knew it, you'd understand. X was never in contact with me and I was never in contact with X. Someone else was in contact with X, they were given the leak, and the leak was shared with the Skype group.

Anyway, if you don't believe me, I understand. I just want to give a warning because so far, a lot of the information in the leak has been true, but it hasn't been in our favor. It probably won't be a movie that we will enjoy.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:00 PM

Anyway, if you don't believe me, I understand. I just want to give a warning because so far, a lot of the information in the leak has been true, but it hasn't been in our favor. It probably won't be a movie that we will enjoy.

To be fair though I don't think many people thought this would be a movie we'd enjoy the second the CD cover came out



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:02 PM

To be fair though I don't think many people thought this would be a movie we'd enjoy the second the CD cover came out

This entire movie will be painful to watch for every NaruSaku fan.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:02 PM

chapter 3 has the presentation of team 7 too... And X told that many years later we will have a callback to chapter 3. Seems like the he was talking more about a new generation than a confession.

 

Imho, Naruto won't never confess in the movie. Why he should wait 2 years for doing a such thing? Especially after the official tweet of the movie retweeted an article where the reviewer told that "Naruto hold a faint love for Sakura". I think really that Naruto has really gave up in the latest chapters of the manga.

 

Yeah, in the moment I read that he said Sakura will always love Sasuke, I got down and started officially to lose some hopes on the movie.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:03 PM

 
X is recognized as an official source by the entire fandom. I can't disclose the name, but if you knew it, you'd understand. X was never in contact with me and I was never in contact with X. Someone else was in contact with X, they were given the leak, and the leak was shared with the Skype group.

Anyway, if you don't believe me, I understand. I just want to give a warning because so far, a lot of the information in the leak has been true, but it hasn't been in our favor. It probably won't be a movie that we will enjoy.

Can you tell us anything else? I'm not eager for spoilers, but it'd be nice to prepare ourselves for what's coming up.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:04 PM

I call BS on Sakura being engaged/married... what, was Sasuke's "exile" only a year?


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