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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

And  I believe popular reviewers like him should be more professional in what they say. I mean yeah your reviewing the chapter but he supports NH and loves Hinata to death )  but he is only setting up NH hopefuls for disaster if he carry on like he does. If NS happens I'm sure he won't review the chapter it happens in and his legion of YT subscribers will go crazy.

 

EDITED.

But why he would do that?

If he reviews favouring NH and bashing Sakura or whatever it already says what kind of audience he's looking for which means he wont have my subscribe and a bunch of other people too, if he wants to attract all kinds of Naruto fans he would be neutral but that's not the case, it's not suggestive for him to be neutral just because he's a reviewer, i dont agree with reviews, example Shikaclouds, he always mock Sakura so in fact i already know that his videos are not meant for people like me that supports NS or Sakura fans.

The same way that NH fans or Sakura haters wont go for NaruSaku4life3g reviews.

Just my two cents but i agree with you, i mean when 631 came they literally went speechless and ignored that part completely because it's not even arguably.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 November 2013 - 11:51 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

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[KnS]

Anti-NS argument is that we need thirdparties to survive, lol. 

 

Compared to what they're surviving on which is...?  Negativity?  Murder attempts?  Idol worship?  Friendzone?  

 

But I really think thirdparties is Kishimoto's voice, if you look at the context and all. I also think they are meant to highlight moments, kind of to remind us that this is not something to bypass. The little stuff does count. 

 

Yes!  I think you're absolutely right.  Context and narrative voice are what give NS so much quiet depth and momentum.  It has to be slow-moving and relatively subtle or it will be too obvious and spoil the journey.  The little stuff, the everyday experiences by someone's side, is where the foundation for romance is tested.  Only NS has had that throughout the course of the story.

[redragon88]

@KnS

 

And yet it's hilarious how so many claim that there's absolutely zero (yeah, they say zero) evidence that Kishi has built up Naruto and Sakura to become a couple in the future. It's gonna be something to see them in denial mode after NS become canon.

[KnS]

@KnS

 

And yet it's hilarious how so many claim that there's absolutely zero (yeah, they say zero) evidence that Kishi has built up Naruto and Sakura to become a couple in the future. It's gonna be something to see them in denial mode after NS become canon.

 

You're right, I know.  But what can be done?  There's certainly nothing we can say or do to change their minds.

 

Once, in a previous fandom, I got into a debate with someone about a secondary pairing they strongly believed was implied in the subtext, while I strongly disagreed.  I painstakingly attempted to highlight the debater's interpretative bias to no avail.  

 

After that went on for much too long a while, I finally said, "Well, what about the fact that the author has publicly stated those two characters are not a pair, nor will they ever be a pair, and there was never an intention to suggest otherwise...?"

 

The response I got was, in essence, that the debater felt his/her own interpretation of the subtext counted more than authorial intent, so whatever he/she believed was the correct interpretation -- not what the author may have intended.  In other words -- interpretative bias -- which is exactly what I'd been arguing for the debater to recognize all along.

 

The point of the story is that people will read and interpret whatever they wish, even if Kishimoto called them personally and said, "Hey... FYI, it's all about NS!!!"  Some will never believe it, some will feel duped and blindsided, and some will hate Kishimoto's guts for ruining "their" story and the pairing that should have been.  

 

Everyone has the exact same chance to read and process the material.  Results will vary.

[rocci]

Hey guys, guess what? It seem naruto is not interest with sakura because he like big boob and sakura clearly doesn't have it. Seem like jiraiya influence really work on him, I mean when he try to peek the girl in onsen, he didn't mean to peek sakura but the ladies who laugh when sai tease naruto's kitten.

[Dalton.T.R]

Hey guys, it has been a while since I've been here and even looked at the Naruto manga. Have we had any new NS moments since chapter 632?

Edited by Dalton (I stink at names), 17 November 2013 - 04:56 AM.

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@dalton
No, but I think we have obirin NS parallel.

[ladyannelise]

after reàding the latest chapter, i felt... oh well, this is one of those times when i think pairings are just pointless.. sigh...

mention of a bestfriend and Naruto instantly goes on looking at/ thinking of Sasuke.
but memories of the enemy's love interest didn't even trigger his own feelings to any of the girls... that being said, it felt like Kishi reminded me hard that hey, this is shonen. no matter how hard you see the pairings i put in, in the end, love is Naruto's least priority...
i still believe in NaruSaku though, but how on earth will it be brought up if he's fighting with Madara? or, it wasn't meant to bebrouup at all? guess, ill just have to be patient and wait...

[narulsaku]

@KnS

 

And yet it's hilarious how so many claim that there's absolutely zero (yeah, they say zero) evidence that Kishi has built up Naruto and Sakura to become a couple in the future. It's gonna be something to see them in denial mode after NS become canon.

 

yea its jus common now. 

 

 

You're right, I know.  But what can be done?  There's certainly nothing we can say or do to change their minds.

 

Once, in a previous fandom, I got into a debate with someone about a secondary pairing they strongly believed was implied in the subtext, while I strongly disagreed.  I painstakingly attempted to highlight the debater's interpretative bias to no avail.  

 

After that went on for much too long a while, I finally said, "Well, what about the fact that the author has publicly stated those two characters are not a pair, nor will they ever be a pair, and there was never an intention to suggest otherwise...?"

 

The response I got was, in essence, that the debater felt his/her own interpretation of the subtext counted more than authorial intent, so whatever he/she believed was the correct interpretation -- not what the author may have intended.  In other words -- interpretative bias -- which is exactly what I'd been arguing for the debater to recognize all along.

 

The point of the story is that people will read and interpret whatever they wish, even if Kishimoto called them personally and said, "Hey... FYI, it's all about NS!!!"  Some will never believe it, some will feel duped and blindsided, and some will hate Kishimoto's guts for ruining "their" story and the pairing that should have been.  

 

Everyone has the exact same chance to read and process the material.  Results will vary.

 

i do agree with this

 

and hey guys look what i found out 

 

http://naruhina.lovediscussion.net/

 

they say "after 631 ns fans have gotten quite. cuz they know they have been trolled"

 

after reàding the latest chapter, i felt... oh well, this is one of those times when i think pairings are just pointless.. sigh...

mention of a bestfriend and Naruto instantly goes on looking at/ thinking of Sasuke.
but memories of the enemy's love interest didn't even trigger his own feelings to any of the girls... that being said, it felt like Kishi reminded me hard that hey, this is shonen. no matter how hard you see the pairings i put in, in the end, love is Naruto's least priority...
i still believe in NaruSaku though, but how on earth will it be brought up if he's fighting with Madara? or, it wasn't meant to bebrouup at all? guess, ill just have to be patient and wait...

 

hum i think the moral of the story means more than the pairing.

Edited by narulsaku, 17 November 2013 - 06:04 AM.

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@ladyanalise
If kishi intend to one shot madara in two chapter, then no NS interaction. But if he want to make another 8 chapter to show how madara fall, then he can make sakura hurt, either she trying to help naruto or she's madara target. The outcome of this event will lead naruto show his love to the reader and obito.

And yes I agree with narusaku that this manga more than pairing.

[ladyannelise]

@ladyanalise
If kishi intend to one shot madara in two chapter, then no NS interaction. But if he want to make another 8 chapter to show how madara fall, then he can make sakura hurt, either she trying to help naruto or she's madara target. The outcome of this event will lead naruto show his love to the reader and obito.
And yes I agree with narusaku that this manga more than pairing.

hmmm... i hope we see a NaruSaku soon,.. i'm thirsty for it! haha:-)

wow! i didn't even know there's a website like this, stupid me.. but im not stupid enough to go to the lions den. haha! well, probably read a bit but i definitely cant discuss my pairing there! or sure, ill be torn to pieces! cheers!

http://naruhina.lovediscussion.net/

[ladyannelise]

hmmm... i hope we see a NaruSaku soon,.. i'm thirsty for it! haha:-)
wow! i didn't even know there's a website like this, stupid me.. but im not stupid enough to go to the lions den. haha! well, probably read a bit but i definitely cant discuss my pairing there! or sure, ill be torn to pieces! cheers!http://naruhina.lovediscussion.net/

i take it back, just half a page and i stopped!
ill just continue enjoying this narusaku site :)

[T XD]

@dalton
No, but I think we have obirin NS parallel.

I do think too that we have OR and NS parallel, but implied in the contexts of the latest few chapters. It's not canonized like shown together in a same panel, or a character said something about the two pairings. I think the war with, now, Madara will be dragged to next volume, so it may well have the canon parallel of OR and NS.

 

But, the thing here is that if Kishi will choose to make it canon or will let it be implied. Either way, I do think that it's pretty obvious now that OR and NS are very similar.

Edited by T XD, 17 November 2013 - 07:44 AM.

[narulsaku]

I do think too that we have OR and NS parallel, but implied in the contexts of the latest few chapters. It's not canonized like shown together in a same panel, or a character said something about the two pairings. I think the war with, now, Madara will be dragged to next volume, so it may well have the canon parallel of OR and NS.
 
But, the thing here is that if Kishi will choose to make it canon or will let it be implied. Either way, I do think that it's pretty obvious now that OR and NS are very similar.

hey TXD.
and oh yes there are a lot of pairings parallal to ns in naruto. and i find obirin to be the most interesting and most similar to narusaku. hey do u guys think if naruto would repeat those words of obito which he said to rin,while sakura will beal him in the end of the war. dont u think that it would be a good shot

Edited by narulsaku, 17 November 2013 - 08:00 AM.

[T XD]

hey T XD.
and oh yes there are a lot of pairings parallal to ns in naruto. and i find obirin to be the most interesting and most similar to narusaku. hey do u guys think if naruto would repeat those words of obito which he said to rin,while sakura will beal him in the end of the war. dont u think that it would be a good shot

Hi narulsaku. Long time no see.

 

What words specifically ?

[narulsaku]

Hi narulsaku. Long time no see.
 
What words specifically ?

oh those words ummm yes "saving me is like saving the world oh lookin after me is like looking after the world or something like that. it was in the flashback of chapter 648 or 649

[rocci]

@TXD
For me there're two parallel that kishi show to us, one is confirm while the other in waiting. And that's narusasu and it's parallels(hashimada & obi kaka).
While NS parallel obirin(&minakushi)

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@TXD
For me there're two parallel that kishi show to us, one is confirm while the other in waiting. And that's narusasu and it's parallels(hashimada & obi kaka).
While NS parallel obirin(&minakushi)

SS parallels Kaka/Rin, it's a negative parallel but it's a parallel anyway.

[rocci]

Oh right, I forgot about it