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[bthug]

Hey whats up guys , im a new member there and just want to say hello to everyone first.
Im pretty sure this question as already been ask but im to lazzy to read all of those pages , im sorry guys

I was wondering, where does Sakura go ? We didint see here since chapter 615 , and actually it was juste a pannel when she had a wtf face during , and i dont like to admit it, one of the biggest NaruHina moment of the serie. I know last chapters where about sasuke and the previous hokage , but the thing annoying me is the fact that we not see's here in chapter 617 , even with the big pannel showing the alliance... i mean , Shino there ? Tenten ? i dont remember but even Akamura i think and no Sakura

I read a theory that says that she maybe went to the kages , but Wtf Even if I think it would be a good scene , Tsunade dying , and with the help of Sakura sacrifice she's life and rescu the others kages ( dont want gaara to die comon kishi ). But just before dying she would say something like `` hmm , you know Sakura, i have some regrets in life, one of them is the fact that i did not let come my real feelings ( thinking of Jiraya ) because i cannot move on from my tragic past. When i finally accept that my feelings has change, from Dan to Jiraya, it was to late. But you Sakura, you still have time. I sense it the first time i see Naruto interact with you. He really likes you , and you know that i am an horrible gambler , but this time i have no doubt , i bet you love him too.``
Would be nice , No ?

But Seriously what do you guys think she is doing , Does Kishi forgot about her or he is plaining something important ? I dont know and im excited to see

Also do you think that she will get a power up at she's birthday like Hinta ? its in end of mars i think.

First off, I wanna say welcome. Unfortunately I cant answer where Sakura is nor do I have any idea. But I think the last part with Tsuande telling her, thats its okay to have a change of heart is good. Maybe not as spelled out or as direct as you had it, but something along the lines would be nice.

[Sojobo]

First off, I wanna say welcome. Unfortunately I cant answer where Sakura is nor do I have any idea. But I think the last part with Tsuande telling her, thats its okay to have a change of heart is good. Maybe not as spelled out or as direct as you had it, but something along the lines would be nice.

I think Sai has a high probability of being the one who'll help her realize her feelings for Naruto.
Yamato, the one who wanted to say it clearly to her is missing, the only one who noticed Sakura's feelings for Naruto except Yamato was Sai.
He's a lot implicated in Naruto/Sakura relationship and feeling problems, he loves them so much that I think they are his precious people today.
Sai has also a high probability to die, cause if Sasuke gets back to Konoha, I don't think we will see team 7 having 4 members (6 including Kakashi, Yamato was just replacing Kakashi because of his injuries)
Kishimoto killed Neji, so I think Sai has a good chance too.


Basically, Yamato told her how to be usefull to Naruto. She just has to listen to her heart, and don't have to pay attention of how her acts may be significant or not.
That's what Yamato told her : Realize how much you love him, and everything will work like a charm.

That's why I keep saying that we will have a NS moment soon after Sasuke's discussion with the Yonkage.

Edited by Sojobo, 24 February 2013 - 10:03 PM.

[catsi563]

<----Green zone 100%

[HauntedCake]

Sai has also a high probability to die, cause if Sasuke gets back to Konoha, I don't think we will see team 7 having 4 members (6 including Kakashi, Yamato was just replacing Kakashi because of his injuries)
Kishimoto killed Neji, so I think Sai has a good chance too.

Why would he kill Sai over Sasuke?? especially when Sasuke would be easier to kill off so to speak with Naruto vs Sasuke.

[Sojobo]

Why would he kill Sai over Sasuke?? especially when Sasuke would be easier to kill off so to speak with Naruto vs Sasuke.

I'm part of people who thinks that Sasuke has 100% chances to be alive in the end of the manga.
Naruto said it enough times, he'll bring back Sasuke to Konoha.


We're in Shonen manga where the hero obtain pretty much everything he wants.

Edited by Sojobo, 24 February 2013 - 11:18 PM.

[Slextrem]

I'm part of people who thinks that Sasuke has 100% chances to be alive in th eend of the manga.
Naruto said it enough times, he'll bring back Sasuke to Konoha.


We're in Shonen manga where the hero obtain pretty much all what he wants.

I'm not sure if Sasuke is going to live or die at the end, but if he ends up surviving, I can't see him returning to Konoha. Not only because the entire shinobi nation looks at him as a criminal, but because he himself hates it there. That's why I see him becoming a wanderer with Taka and eventually restarting his clan if he ends up living. As for Naruto, he will stay in Konoha and fulfill his dream of becoming the Hokage. They'll go their separate paths, but both men will maintain their respect and appreciation for one another, if that makes sense.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Sasuke will make peace with Naruto and the Leaf eventually, but I just can't see him plunkering down in Konoha again after all of this. He just doesn't belong there. None of the Uchiha belong there. I'd prefer to see the Senju and the Uchiha living separately and peacefully as allies, like the Senju clan and the Uzumaki clan did, rather than having one rule over the other. That's what started this whole mess in the first place. One clan feeling oppressed by the other and deciding to rebel.

Edited by Slextrem, 24 February 2013 - 11:28 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

<----Green zone 100%

same

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

There's something that make me wonder
If Sasuke ends up living and restart his clan elsewhere
How does it will prevent that another Madara will rise up?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 February 2013 - 12:00 AM.

[Quinny52]

@Slextrem - I agree, I've said it a few times myself; there's too much bad blood between the Uchiha and Konoha for them to coexist again. The prejudice against Sasuke would be huge (even if, this time around, it has good reason), and Sasuke's made it clear that he could never forgive Konoha for ostracising his clan. It just won't work (or rather, I should say it wouldn't in the real wolrd). And it's not just Konoha now, Sasuke's wanted by ALL of the 5 Nations. If Naruto tried to push for sparing Sasuke's life AND returning him to Konoha, he could jeapardise the entire Alliance. When the war is over, the 5 Nations will strive to keep the unity of the Alliance going for the benefit of the entire Naruto World. The other Nations wouldn't stand for it; no matter how much Naruto might win the other Nation's leaders over, he'd be asking too much.

Exile is the most likely option readers can expect to see if Sasuke does survive. But even now, we don't know what Sasuke's fate will be, though I reckon it could be determined soon depending on what his next move is. It all rests on whether he's satisfied with the answers from Hashrama and (presumably) Minato. Will he raise Konoha to the ground or won't he? I believe Sasuke's fate is ultimately riding on his next action.

Edited by Quinny52, 25 February 2013 - 12:41 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

<----Green zone 100%

Same. I'm pretty much between 1-10 at a 9. There's always that one small percent that makes you wonder if NH will happen, but I know how unlikely it is. I was in the yellow zone during 615 but ever since 616, Green zone.

Sojobo, while I don't really mind some NS third parties, I'd prefer it better if it was only subtle. If it was a massive hint, like let's say Yamato's unfinished sentence, it's not as rewarding. I'd prefer if Sakura figures out she loves Naruto on her own. I still wonder how Kishi's going to make her realize it though.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Same. I'm pretty much between 1-10 at a 9. There's always that one small percent that makes you wonder if NH will happen, but I know how unlikely it is. I was in the yellow zone during 615 but ever since 616, Green zone.

Sojobo, while I don't really mind some NS third parties, I'd prefer it better if it was only subtle. If it was a massive hint, like let's say Yamato's unfinished sentence, it's not as rewarding. I'd prefer if Sakura figures out she loves Naruto on her own. I still wonder how Kishi's going to make her realize it though.

Well if Naruto made Kakashi realized what's truly important about the war when he was dazed, then basically Naruto is her source to realize. When was the last time Naruto did a speech that comfort Sakura? Too long ago. Something will trigger it and Naruto will be it. It's very possible and Naruto may not realized it until the end.

[Sojobo]

I'm not sure if Sasuke is going to live or die at the end, but if he ends up surviving, I can't see him returning to Konoha. Not only because the entire shinobi nation looks at him as a criminal, but because he himself hates it there.

The entire Shinobi World is aknowledging Naruto's view, and they are giving their life for him right now at the battlefield.
I don't see any problem about that. Kyuubi was also seen as a monster who killed a lot of families. Today, he's fighting with the one who hated him so much because of their loss. He even share with them his chakra.
Same goes for Kabuto, Kishimoto already gave us a hint that he will probably return to his orphan friends in Konoha, village where he's wanted. (he's also a S class criminal like Sasuke in the Bingobook)

That's why I see him becoming a wanderer with Taka and eventually restarting his clan if he ends up living.

He'll just live his life like everyone else.
He will not thinking about restoring his clan, he'll make childeren because he'll love his woman and because he wants family.
For Taka, I think that Karin will probably live in Konoha, because her village was destroyed (Databook) and because in my point of view, she'll probably be Sasuke's woman.
She's Naruto's family (only real family) also. That's why her place will be definitly at Konoha, it all make sense.
About Suigetsu, he'll probaly play a big role in Kiri.
Juugo I don't know. Dead or alive. He seems to be in love with Sasuke lol, so if he has to live, I think he'll playing a big role also in Konoha (subordonate of Sasuke or something like that).



They will all be united, that's how I see the ending story.
Don't forget, it's Shonen manga, it's happy end at 100%.

As for Naruto, he will stay in Konoha and fulfill his dream of becoming the Hokage. They'll go their separate paths, but both men will maintain their respect and appreciation for one another, if that makes sense.

I don't think it's Naruto's intention.
They are friends, they are family, Sasuke isn't just Uchiha, he's Uchiha of Konoha.

He just doesn't belong there.

Of course he does. Itachi explained it to him. I am Uchiha Itachi of Konoha.
Naruto will probably make him understand that.

None of the Uchiha belong there. I'd prefer to see the Senju and the Uchiha living separately and peacefully as allies, like the Senju clan and the Uzumaki clan did, rather than having one rule over the other. That's what started this whole mess in the first place. One clan feeling oppressed by the other and deciding to rebel.

It's started because Tobirama, Danzou, and others were bad people.
They took bad decisions, that's why it didn't went well.

Just look at the Shinobi Alliance, they were fighting not a long time ago, now they are fighting together.
New generation is different.

Naruto and Sasuke will lead Konoha together, that's what Rikudou always wanted about his sons, and not to seperate them.
It's my opinion, and I know that 98% will not agree with me. ^^
But that's how I see the whole thing.


Again, sorry for my bad english.

[Gravenimage]

NH Fans -> Platonic moment.

You know the funny part? An artist made a fan art of that hug but changed Sakura with Hinata and "some" NH fans immediately said that hug romantic is romantic.

Edited by Gravenimage, 25 February 2013 - 02:42 AM.

[redragon88]

There's something that make me wonder
If Sasuke ends up living and restart his clan elsewhere
How does it will prevent that another Madara will rise up?

I think Slextrem explained it pretty nicely. If the Uchiha have their own government they won't feel oppressed and decide to rebel.

The Uchiha massacre came to be because the Uchiha didn't like how Konoha was slowly stripping them from power in their perspective. Therefore with their own separate rule they would be true equal allies instead of feeling like they had become underlings of the village.

[Tokura Misaki]

I am in green zone no matter what happens. If NS doesn't become a canon, Kishi-sensei is just wasting his effort for doing it.

[Slextrem]

@Sojobo

You have a very different viewpoint on this than I do.

Personally, I can't see Sasuke going back to that peaceful village lifestyle. I see that scenario as a fantasy bubble just waiting to be popped. (Perhaps it's because I've seen so many fanfictions with an OOC Sasuke, redeemed and happily enjoying his life in Konoha, as if nothing ever happened?) He's strayed so far from that kind of life already and has shown absolutely no interest in going back to it. That's why having him become a wanderer makes more sense to me. He can travel with Taka, whom have more or less become a family to him, and finally get back to reversing the damage that's been done to his clan's name. Whether that includes rebuilding his clan, I'm not sure, but I want to clear something up about that point. You interpreted what I said about restarting the clan as Sasuke having children out of obligation, but that's not what I meant. I meant that he would be living happily and eventually want to start a family out of love, like any other person.

Quick thought: Perhaps Sasuke will be a hero and allow his clan to die out, as it seems their genetics make them incapable of living a happy life and coexisting with other people? If their brain makes them turn to hatred after losing someone important to them, that means that all new members of the clan will eventually fall to darkness, as losing someone close happens to everyone at some point in their life. Ultimately, this has been the number one problem in the Shinobi World and it needs to fixed somehow. They can't face the possibility of dealing with another Madara or Sasuke a few years down the road, especially not after Naruto is gone. That will start the cycle all over again... Maybe letting the Uchiha clan die out will be Sasuke's way of repenting for the harm that he's caused? [/braces herself to be attacked by all Sasuke/Uchiha fans]

Back on topic, in my opinion, this situation keeps him in character. For Sasuke to go from hating Konoha so much that he wants to completely crush everyone and everything connected to it to living happily ever after there is just... weird. I just can't see him eager to live there, even after he's been redeemed by Naruto. You know that saying, "Forgive but never forget"? I think that applies here. Sasuke may be saved by Naruto in the future and will eventually be able to forgive Konoha for what was done to his clan, but that doesn't mean he'll forget it happened. I can't see him living happily in Konoha with the truth of what happened to his family always in the back of his mind.

It's not like this wouldn't be a "happy ending 100%". It's just not the kind of happy ending that most of us would expect. It would be a happy ending for Sasuke, as he wouldn't be oppressed within the village that destroyed his clan and he'd be given a second chance to find happiness. It would be a happy ending for Naruto, as Sasuke would finally be walking the path of light instead of darkness and their bond would stay in tact. It would be a happy ending for the rest of the Shinobi Nations as well, because despite what they're doing for Naruto now, I can't see any of them ready and willing to accept an S-rank criminal into their villages. The Land of Iron arc is a perfect example. Even with Naruto crying at his feet, the Raikage wasn't willing to spare Sasuke because of the horrible things that he's done to his people and his younger brother Bee. Again, "forgive but never forget." Naruto may be able to eventually convince the Alliance to forgive Sasuke, but they won't be able to forget the destruction he's caused.

Quinny said it best, "If Naruto tried to push for sparing Sasuke's life AND returning him to Konoha, he could jeopardize the entire Alliance. When the war is over, the 5 Nations will strive to keep the unity of the Alliance going for the benefit of the entire Naruto World. The other Nations wouldn't stand for it; no matter how much Naruto might win the other Nation's leaders over, he'd be asking too much."

That being said, I don't think bringing Sasuke back to the village is really Naruto's priority anymore. It was when he first set out to save him from Orochimaru, but things have changed drastically since Part One. His goal now is simply to save Sasuke before he is completely lost to darkness. Dragging him back to Konoha kicking and screaming is irrelevant at this point. So long as Sasuke is happy again and no longer suffering, I think that would be enough for Naruto.

Oh, and one more point about Taka: All of them are outcasts with nowhere to go, but they've formed a bond with one another that could be compared to the bond between Team Seven. It makes more sense to me for them to stay together rather than split up. As much as I would like to see Karin and even Suigetsu in Konoha, I just can't picture any of the Taka members living there or in any village for that matter. That "happily ever after by succumbing to the rules of a shinobi village" lifestyle just doesn't suit their group. At least, not to me.

Anyway, this is all just my personal take on it. I could be wrong - in fact I'm usually wrong when I make predictions - but this is my ideal ending for Naruto.

P.S. Your English is just fine.

Edited by Slextrem, 25 February 2013 - 05:02 AM.

[merryGOflava]

so do naruhina fans ever get nervous for their ship?? or are they always confident?.....I'm just wondering..

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

so do naruhina fans ever get nervous for their ship?? or are they always confident?.....I'm just wondering..

If we NaruSaku fans doubt our pairings at times, then the NaruHina fans definitely doubt theirs. They just don't like showing it lol, neither do we.

[merryGOflava]

If we NaruSaku fans doubt our pairings at times, then the NaruHina fans definitely doubt theirs. They just don't like showing it lol, neither do we.

makes sense

[narusakurama]

The entire Shinobi World is aknowledging Naruto's view, and they are giving their life for him right now at the battlefield.
I don't see any problem about that. Kyuubi was also seen as a monster who killed a lot of families. Today, he's fighting with the one who hated him so much because of their loss. He even share with them his chakra.
Same goes for Kabuto, Kishimoto already gave us a hint that he will probably return to his orphan friends in Konoha, village where he's wanted. (he's also a S class criminal like Sasuke in the Bingobook)

He'll just live his life like everyone else.
He will not thinking about restoring his clan, he'll make childeren because he'll love his woman and because he wants family.
For Taka, I think that Karin will probably live in Konoha, because her village was destroyed (Databook) and because in my point of view, she'll probably be Sasuke's woman.
She's Naruto's family (only real family) also. That's why her place will be definitly at Konoha, it all make sense.
About Suigetsu, he'll probaly play a big role in Kiri.
Juugo I don't know. Dead or alive. He seems to be in love with Sasuke lol, so if he has to live, I think he'll playing a big role also in Konoha (subordonate of Sasuke or something like that).



They will all be united, that's how I see the ending story.
Don't forget, it's Shonen manga, it's happy end at 100%.

I don't think it's Naruto's intention.
They are friends, they are family, Sasuke isn't just Uchiha, he's Uchiha of Konoha.

Of course he does. Itachi explained it to him. I am Uchiha Itachi of Konoha.
Naruto will probably make him understand that.

It's started because Tobirama, Danzou, and others were bad people.
They took bad decisions, that's why it didn't went well.

Just look at the Shinobi Alliance, they were fighting not a long time ago, now they are fighting together.
New generation is different.

Naruto and Sasuke will lead Konoha together, that's what Rikudou always wanted about his sons, and not to seperate them.
It's my opinion, and I know that 98% will not agree with me. ^^
But that's how I see the whole thing.


Again, sorry for my bad english.

The way things stand now , Sasuke can not be redeemed . For that to happen , he still has to prove he is worth it . For everyone to be able to accept his redemption , he would have to help the alliance in winning this war and play a major part in defeating one of the big 3 . One possibility is that after the talk with the Kage he will also hold Madara responsible for Itachi's suffering and will want revenge on him as well . So he could help the alliance defeat him , especially since he probably has the most effective sealing technique of all , the Susano blade that Itachi used on Oro and Nagato .