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[harry4e]

Chapter 287

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So talk about overpowered, If anyone thought Erza taking on 100 beasts was overpowering, then Laxus completely defeating the five members of raven tail without a scratch is even more over the top. Also once again another battle hyped up and ends in dissapointment.

I wonder what the dark power of fairy tail is? Well considering Zeref was found on the Fairy Tails holyland, it wouldn't be a surprise to me if he was a product of the guilds dark past.

Wendy Vs Shelia, battle of the Cute clumsy Imouto types.

Edited by harry4e, 15 June 2012 - 01:57 PM.

[Catwho]

Thoughts... --Click here to view--

I am beginning to join the opinion that Mavis was involved with Zeref at some point. Glad to see Wendy is back to normal.

[redragon88]

I get it now! --Click here to view--

Ever since it was announced the the 4th day would have tag team battles I wondered how it would play out. It was obvious that Sting and Rogue would be elected for Sabertooth since they are known as the Dragon Slayer Duo so I think they might have a reputation for teaming up.

The problem was that their respective rivals, Natsu and Gajeel, were on different teams so them teaming up seemed improbable. Now that Raven Tail has been disqualified I think there might be a chance.

Since the number of teams is now odd (7) instead of even (8) there will be a team left out of the match ups. To fix this the tournament coordinators will probably suggest that Fairy Tail A and B unify for this particular tag team battle in an all or nothing battle. If Fairy Tail wins Team A and B get 10 points each. A and B will have to send out a member of their respective team, which will obviously be Natsu and Gajeel, and they'll have to team up to defeat the guild they fight against, which will obviously be Sabertooth.

That way the numbers of teams become even (6) again and we get 3 tag-team battles in the 4th day.

I do think the Fairy Tail unification will only be for this particular tag-team battle. Whatever the 5th day has in store for them I don't think it will matter if the number of team is even or odd.

[harry4e]

I get it now! --Click here to view--

Ever since it was announced the the 4th day would have tag team battles I wondered how it would play out. It was obvious that Sting and Rogue would be elected for Sabertooth since they are known as the Dragon Slayer Duo so I think they might have a reputation for teaming up.

The problem was that their respective rivals, Natsu and Gajeel, were on different teams so them teaming up seemed improbable. Now that Raven Tail has been disqualified I think there might be a chance.

Since the number of teams is now odd (7) instead of even (8) there will be a team left out of the match ups. To fix this the tournament coordinators will probably suggest that Fairy Tail A and B unify for this particular tag team battle in an all or nothing battle. If Fairy Tail wins Team A and B get 10 points each. A and B will have to send out a member of their respective team, which will obviously be Natsu and Gajeel, and they'll have to team up to defeat the guild they fight against, which will obviously be Sabertooth.

That way the numbers of teams become even (6) again and we get 3 tag-team battles in the 4th day.

I do think the Fairy Tail unification will only be for this particular tag-team battle. Whatever the 5th day has in store for them I don't think it will matter if the number of team is even or odd.

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You do raise a good point but if i'm honest i'd rather see Natsu and Gray team up against the two dragon slayers, even though it does make more sense to have FT1 and 2 join forces to make one team...and Natusu's heat and electrical powers would compliment Gajeels steel quite well, but Natus and Gray are a team no matter how reluctant they might be to admit it.

I wonder what the mysterious power was? Was it Shelia's power or was it the power they were meant to be looking out for in the first place? I just hope it doesn't end up like so many other cliffhangers this past few months, and be completely anticlimatic.

[redragon88]

However --Click here to view--

You do raise a good point but if i'm honest i'd rather see Natsu and Gray team up against the two dragon slayers, even though it does make more sense to have FT1 and 2 join forces to make one team...and Natusu's heat and electrical powers would compliment Gajeels steel quite well, but Natus and Gray are a team no matter how reluctant they might be to admit it.

I wonder what the mysterious power was? Was it Shelia's power or was it the power they were meant to be looking out for in the first place? I just hope it doesn't end up like so many other cliffhangers this past few months, and be completely anticlimatic.

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The problem is that Gray already has Rufus focused as his opponent. Hiro is already foreshadowing the inevitable battle of Ice make vs Memory make. I believe that all the scores that need to be settled will happen at the 5th day.

Laxus vs Ogra, Erza vs Kagura, and Gray vs Rufus. They are building the tensions between them for the 5th day. The DS Duo vs Natsu and Gajeel seems to be the only rivalry to be settled on the 4th day.

I hope Minerva participates in the Competition portion of the 4th day, I'm very curious about what she can do. I do wonder if she'll get the chance to battle one-on-one with someone. You'd think it would be Erza but she already has Kagura to deal with. Maybe Lucy could take her on and show that she's actually strong to the audience in the stadium, then they'll realized she got cheated out of her victory in her first match.

[Chew]

I just caught up with the entire manga. In the course of 2.5 days. MY FEELS.

[Catwho]

I just caught up with the entire manga. In the course of 2.5 days. MY FEELS.

Welcome!

[Chew]

Thank you for the welcome~

anyway --Click here to view--

As for the chapters well, let's just say I'm excited to see what the other guilds (RT) are up to. That is all XD Also the upcoming battles. Definitely looking forward to a lucy-centered plotline (mein fanservice lub~)

Edited by Pikachew, 17 June 2012 - 05:03 PM.

[Catwho]

So, I've been making my husband watch the FT anime with me (he doesn't do manga) and he was surprised when I told him that Fairy Tail has a large RPG and MMORPG influence, especially FFXI. (It's pretty clear to those who play MMOs that the influence is there, but he does not.)

So I tried to explain it, at least the stuff from FFXI

- Same elemental magic system, more or less (Light, Dark, Water, Lightning, Fire, Ice, Earth, Wind.)
- Same summoning magic system (constellation magic). I think he called it Stellar Spirit magic to avoid getting a lawsuit by Square Enix.
- Same animas sucking people into alternate dimensions
- Erza is Curilla, even down to the artificial eye

The biggest thing, though, is the guild system. Straight out of the ol' MMO playbook. (In XI, they're called linkshells.) But there is always competition to get accepted to the top guilds in any MMO, and there's always competition between the guilds to see who is the best and strongest... Hell, we even have "dark" guilds in XI, comprised of the cheaters and botters. (And the guild council, SE itself, occasionally takes them down.)

But I don't think FFXI was the only influence, just the strongest one, since it's the most popular MMO in Japan and has been for a decade.

Any other game influences in there that I'm not seeing?

Edited by Catwho, 18 June 2012 - 12:54 AM.

[harry4e]

Well I won't argue with you on that theory, infact Hiro Mashima's Rave Master, I got the feeling I was reading a JRPG.

[Super Boom]

I finally read the chapter!

As overpowered as Laxus is, I was pretty excited to see him win the fight. Honestly, I think I prefer seeing longer fights with main characters, like Natsu or Erza, but with BAMF characters like Laxus, I don't mind seeing complete pwnages like this fight. I sort of have the same thoughts about Kenpachi in Bleach.

On top of that, seeing Laxus 'avenge' Wendy, Gray, and Lucy was incredible, and his monologue about his 'real family' was just awesome. He's really come a long way from being that bully who threatened to kill everyone in the guild. Forget the Hades fight, this was Laxus' true return to Fairy Tail.

Outside of Laxus epic-ness, I wonder if Shelia and Wendy will get a good fight, or if it will just be a few pages before we go to Jellal and Mystery Power. Actually, I wasn't even expecting Wendy to fight, since she's taking Elfman's place, who's already fought in the tournament. I guess I don't understand the rules as much I thought I did...*goes back several chapters to read the rules again*

Edited by Boom...Winning, 18 June 2012 - 03:57 AM.

[redragon88]

I finally read the chapter!

As overpowered as Laxus is, I was pretty excited to see him win the fight. Honestly, I think I prefer seeing longer fights with main characters, like Natsu or Erza, but with BAMF characters like Laxus, I don't mind seeing complete pwnages like this fight. I sort of have the same thoughts about Kenpachi in Bleach.

On top of that, seeing Laxus 'avenge' Wendy, Gray, and Lucy was incredible, and his monologue about his 'real family' was just awesome. He's really come a long way from being that bully who threatened to kill everyone in the guild. Forget the Hades fight, this was Laxus' true return to Fairy Tail.

Outside of Laxus epic-ness, I wonder if Shelia and Wendy will get a good fight, or if it will just be a few pages before we go to Jellal and Mystery Power. Actually, I wasn't even expecting Wendy to fight, since she's taking Elfman's place, who's already fought in the tournament. I guess I don't understand the rules as much I thought I did...*goes back several chapters to read the rules again*

Dude, that's not being a bully, that's attempted murder.

But of course since this is a manga the heaviness of the crime is diminished. Let's be honest, people who do crimes 10 times worse than Laxus end up siding with the heroes eventually in many other mangas.

[Nate River]

Dude, that's not being a bully, that's attempted murder.

But of course since this is a manga the heaviness of the crime is diminished. Let's be honest, people who do crimes 10 times worse than Laxus end up siding with the heroes eventually in many other mangas.

Simply threatening to kill someone is not attempted murder. I'm not all that familiar with this series, so he may have done something that justifies that, but threatening to kill someone alone is normally not attempted murder (though it is still a crime).

But yeah, manga, tv shows, etc. are often like that. Although some are better than others about it. Nobody is going to charge Sasuke with attempted murder on Karin or Sakura and if it ends they way I think it will both will probably forgive him for it. I think you could make an argument that he should be charged with the murder of Danzou since Sasuke initiated that fight and Danzou merely fought back. Danzou being an all around ass and guilty of numerous crimes himself wouldn't free Sasuke of criminal liability. Of course, nobody is going to care because everyone hates him.

If geared toward mordern criminal justice, no amount of redemption or Tobi would free him from spending a significant chunk of his adult life in jail.

I remember an old PowerPuff Girls Episode where a six-year old Blossom went to adult jail. I don't know of a jurisdiction where a six-year old can be charge criminally and they certainly do not go to adult jail.

Superhero's (often being vigilantes) probably could be charged with all sorts of crimes. Villains, too. I don't know about the comics, but the TV shows I used to watch tended to down play how serious the crimes were and sometimes showed people getting released for things they should probably have gotten multiple life sentences for (or at least decades worth of pen time). Although, I think more often than not they break out of jail.

I thought about watching the old Scooby Doo just to see how many crimes Scooby and friends commit the offense of Criminal Trespass (my recollection says it's a lot; although maybe that is why they run into so many properties that are abandoned--I guess it's a good thing for them that civilian violations of the 4th Amendment don't usually result in evidence suppression) and how it tends to down play the seriousness of some of their villains offenses are (or how vague they are about it).

[redragon88]

Simply threatening to kill someone is not attempted murder. I'm not all that familiar with this series, so he may have done something that justifies that, but threatening to kill someone alone is normally not attempted murder (though it is still a crime).

I should've clarified. He didn't just threatened, he had a device in place that when time ran out would have electrified an entire town to the point of potentially killing innocent civilians. God knows what would've happened if the heroes weren't able to stop it, although Laxus did start to feel nervous as time was running out so he felt some of regret for placing that device near the end.

[Super Boom]

Dude, that's not being a bully, that's attempted murder.

Ha ha, yeah, I guess bully is too light a word.

I should've clarified. He didn't just threatened, he had a device in place that when time ran out would have electrified an entire town to the point of potentially killing innocent civilians. God knows what would've happened if the heroes weren't able to stop it, although Laxus did start to feel nervous as time was running out so he felt some of regret for placing that device near the end.

I noticed that too. It seemed like he was so sure that Makarov would surrender the guild to him to save the girls, and later the town, he didn't even consider the implication of what he was trying to do. And, as time went on, I think his own pride kept him from backing down, basically to the point to where he was completely willing to let everyone in the town die if the only alternative was for him to admit defeat. He was basically digging himself further and further into a hole as the arc went on. By the end of the fight, it seemed like Natsu and Gajeel were simply trying to stop a rampaging bull rather than a diabolical villain. Obviously his immaturity didn't really absolve him of guilt at that point, but I think it made a big difference in his eventual reformation.

Though, to be honest, it feels like issues like this often aren't taken all that seriously in FT. I mentioned it in an earlier post, but Gajeel tortured Lucy and basically crucificied Levy, and he's even being shipped with the latter. But, at the same time, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that those kind of issues are side-stepped. I think it's just a matter of it being a different style of story. I feel like Mashima prefers to simply present old villains as heroes matter of factly, and then just show how their character has changed all at once, kind of like what we saw in this chapter.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 19 June 2012 - 12:26 AM.

[Catwho]

Natsu said it best: "I defeated you. That means we're even now, right???"

Forgiveness of past mistakes is a big overarching theme of the series, too. If the victor can extend a hand of equality, and the loser chooses to accept it even at the cost of his or her pride, it shows humility on both their parts.

Something I noticed....

Many of the couples that are shipped had people who defeated each other in battle.

Gray defeated Juvia.

Gajeel defeated Levy.

Mirajane defeated Freed.

Erza defeated Jellal, then Jellal defeated Erza, and it's just sort of mish-mashed at this point.

Lucy has never even fought anyone in the guild seriously. So... she can't be shipped within anyone in the guild, no? XD

[Codus N]

Natsu said it best: "I defeated you. That means we're even now, right???"

Forgiveness of past mistakes is a big overarching theme of the series, too. If the victor can extend a hand of equality, and the loser chooses to accept it even at the cost of his or her pride, it shows humility on both their parts.

Well said. But just one thing: when did Natsu say that?? I forgot.

[Darth Krypt]

Natsu said it best: "I defeated you. That means we're even now, right???"

Forgiveness of past mistakes is a big overarching theme of the series, too. If the victor can extend a hand of equality, and the loser chooses to accept it even at the cost of his or her pride, it shows humility on both their parts.

Something I noticed....

Many of the couples that are shipped had people who defeated each other in battle.

Gray defeated Juvia.

Gajeel defeated Levy.

Mirajane defeated Freed.

Erza defeated Jellal, then Jellal defeated Erza, and it's just sort of mish-mashed at this point.

Lucy has never even fought anyone in the guild seriously. So... she can't be shipped within anyone in the guild, no? XD

But Mirajane and Freed aren't forced paired in the manga. And you forgot Elfman and Evergreen.

[Catwho]

Well said. But just one thing: when did Natsu say that?? I forgot.

Right after he defeated Gajeel the first time.

And yes, I forgot Ever/Elf. Evergreen defeated Elfman in their first meeting.

Fandom halfway ships Mira/Freed, and the other half ships Mira/Laxus, although since there is so little support in canon for either, I don't think the ties are very strong to either pairing.

But, following that logic, Mira/Freed is more likely to occur than Mira/Laxus, as the latter two have never fought each other.

[pharix]

Any other game influences in there that I'm not seeing?

not a game but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania

apparently Hiro Mashima really likes reusing his characters... Plue of course and then in episode 45 Bickslow uses mini-versions of characters from Monster Soul as puppets