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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:21 PM

better haircut than the current one ;) Ursula only wants the best for you.

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:23 PM

This is the most hurtful thing possible. The biggest lie, but if SP or Kishimoto push it to justify the ending it will be the final straw. I will rage. I will throw furniture. My faith in humanity will suffer an enormous blow. I don't know, I will be as powerless as I am now, but....

 

well, then just prepare yourself because the "light crush" comes from an article where the author told that (as just a his own opinion). Only that article was retweeted by the official account of the movie. So, It's like they are covering their asses.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:23 PM

Gaara's hair is acceptable.  :hm: The most acceptable thing about the epilogue. With the exception of Lee being...Lee. 

I don't believe in being politically correct :zaru: and also..
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Its not that they are blind...They're stupid and biased. They can't see past Hinata's boobs and static character. That's pretty much what she is, she never changes, or develops. She's stationary in the fact that she satellites around Naruto and nowhere else. 

 

Pretty much :zaru: Everything they have, we had first and we had more and better instances of it. Excluding kids apparently. 
 

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:24 PM

I think its insane how Kishi has the audacity to try and throw out 699 chapters of development an try to throw it out the window with one kittening movie.

 

You know whats even worse, I bet you anything that Kishi will have Naruto turn down Sakura, to make it seem like its okay….prick



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:27 PM

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BALD GAARA. :zaru:

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:29 PM

He already pushed her to the sidelines and she remains there now, in this arc especially (and no, good excuse doesn't change that she is not present currently at all). At least in my perspective. She did almost nothing in recent arcs, not counting Luffy and Ace centered ones obviously where her absence was justified (there were no Strawhats). I'd say that compared to Zoro and Usopp she is pushed to the sidelines to the level of secondary major characters and handled almost like Robin and Brook now in terms of spotlight time. Even though she is not a battle character, it never stopped Oda to give her central plot roles before - hell, bigger than Zorro's for crying out loud. Remeber beautiful Skypea plot - it still brings tears to my eyes. I think Nami's relevance to the story slowly diminished in recent years, I would say that the last big arc of her was the Thriller Bark arc.

Don't get me wrong - Nami is one of Luffy's most important crew members if not the most important. Their special bond is undeniable and beautiful. She is still the one Strawhat to get special treatment all the time. But it doesn't change the fact that we get less and less of her panel-wise and relevance-wise.

I blame it all to the number of characters Oda pushed himself to handle. Too many Strawhats in the crew, too many important side characters. He struggles to give them all relevance. I think that he gave up in the current arc and had to seperate them into two teams to make it possible to move the story forward without forgetting about people or over-stretching the plot.

I just can't compare Nami's relevance in every arc before Thriller Bark to the ones after it, especially post-timeskip. It is like night and day. I am very angry.

 

And yes, she is the best written shounen heroine in my eyes and I read quite a lot of shounen. Favorite moment? There's so many! (not bad for the most doomed to be non-canon solid pairing ever). Well, putting aside the famous masterpiece Aarlong arc moment with the knife that pushed me to sell my soul to this ship, I'd say it was the moment when she jumped across the roofs to get to him in Water 7 with the giant wave coming. It was very Robin-centric, but it was so strong. Maybe it is just the current preference, I've reread that arc recently.

 

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I'd have to disagree with that, because he isn't pushing her to the side, the plot dictates that she should be somewhere else. It isn't like Kishi where he ignores situations where people can be used in favor of Naruto and Sasuke, she's just got a different place to be at the moment, which will probably be pretty huge. She might not be on panel at the moment, but that doesn't bring down her relevancy, as she will be shown here soon. Especially since she's got an emperor breathing down her spine. 

 

As for arc spotlight, I'd say that she usually has one of the central spotlights in every arc, not counting Impel Down and Marineford, for obvious reasons. Look at the last two arcs. In fishman island, she was a major part of the resolution, especially because of her backstory. She was also the plot-driver in the PH arc, as she wanted to save the kids. So she's consistently in the spotlight.

 

I think that Oda has handled all of his characters really well, especially when you consider how many he handles. I don't think that two more crew members will be that big of a deal, honestly. 

 

Lol I don't think it's doomed to be non-canon, I believe that at the end of the series, there'll be a timeskip and that Nami will be holding a mini-Luffy :smug: we just won't know any of the details. There's so many moments! The two scenes you mentioned, the scene when Luffy wrapped his neck around her at Fishman Island was hilarious. Whenever she beats the kitten out of him...so basically every moment they have  :lmao: They are just too hilarious together XD


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:29 PM

BALD GAARA. :zaru:

Brilliant characterization of Thor! Brilliant.
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That secong part made me laugh so much  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao: I don't know why!



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:31 PM

 And yes I can excuses as good as any NH.  :fu:



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:32 PM

 

well, then just prepare yourself because the "light crush" comes from an article where the author told that (as just a his own opinion). Only that article was retweeted by the official account of the movie. So, It's like they are covering their asses.

I saw this little article and this part about "little crush" was not Kishi's quote, it was the opinion of the author of the article.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:32 PM

That secong part made me laugh so much  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao: I don't know why!

Because Thor can't use the internet?  :hehehe:


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:35 PM

I saw this little article and this part about "little crush" was not Kishi's quote, it was the opinion of the author of the article.

 

i know.. With the "author" i have mentioned I meant the author of the article. But since the twitter account retweeted that article, I guess that article hinted somehow the target. Since they retweeted also that infamous article where they talked about Hinata sideways and the red scarf as an important key for the movie, so.... They must have retweeted this article for some reason.

 

So expect in this movie Naruto's feelings for Sakura will be turned just as "a crush" or "faint love".

 

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:36 PM

Because Thor can't use the internet?  :hehehe:

Yes that might be it. He's dumb  :yes:



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:38 PM

The movie will probably depict Naruto's love for Sakura as a simple and weak crush. This will make Hinata look like his FIRST LOVE.

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:39 PM

The movie will probably depict Naruto's love for Sakura as a simple and weak crush. This will make Hinata look like his FIRST LOVE.

Hence first love...now I get it.



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:40 PM

as ive said elsewhere faint love my cat tailed tuckus.

 

No one with a  faint love or mere crush promises on THEIR LIFE to bring back their rival for the girls affections.

 

no one with a faint crush goes to the ENDS OF THE BLOODY Earth to bring that person back nearly losing their soul in the process.

 

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:43 PM

This whole "Faint/dim." love argument is reminiscent of something from the FF7 debates, the kanji actually read something like "secretive/hidden" lemme see if I can find it...


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:43 PM

The movie will probably depict Naruto's love for Sakura as a simple and weak crush. This will make Hinata look like his FIRST LOVE.

 

 

i know.. With the "author" i have mentioned I meant the author of the article. But since the twitter account retweeted that article, I guess that article hinted somehow the target. Since they retweeted also that infamous article where they talked about Hinata sideways and the red scarf as an important key for the movie, so.... They must have retweeted this article for some reason.

 

So expect in this movie Naruto's feelings for Sakura will be turned just as "a crush" or "faint love".

 

:zaru:

I'll be ok if they just go on with NH as if NS never existed. The only nightmare is Naruto or any other narrator-character (like Sai or Kakashi) confirming something like that. I mean, that Naruto's love was faint and Hinata can be considered his first love. That would be a nuclear explosion.

But what am I saying - I will never watch that movie. I'll just read about the plot with my eyes half shut just to have closure.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:44 PM

So expect in this movie Naruto's feelings for Sakura will be turned just as "a crush" or "faint love".

 

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I said before we knew the outcome of the pairings that not having Naruto confess or address anything related to NS would give credibility to the arguments that he never really loved her. And what do you know, it's happening.

 

When the author treats their bond like it never meant anything, it becomes impossible to argue to the contrary.



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:46 PM

NH is only for people who hate Sakura. I'm sorry...that's just the feeling I get.


This is so true. I was one of them too in part one.

I had a lot of hope for sakura in 2, but kishi killed her.

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 11:48 PM

Honestly, if they kept NH\SS and at least changed Naruto being so unhappy and neglectful in this final chapter, I would be happy. I love Naruto so much, it pains to see him that way. I'm still hoping that the anime will change this aspect since it will probably have more footage.


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